Time For Don Cherry To Give Up The Pro-War Talk

[gopher]

''National Archive''

It was online and is a matter of public record. Now all Cherry has to do is to use it. If you approve of his war, you may do it as well.

 

[CDNBear]

''National Archive''

It was online and is a matter of public record. Now all Cherry has to do is to use it. If you approve of his war, you may do it as well.

Actually, RCS and I have our misgivings about the war in Afghanistan. And as has been clearly pointed out, and grasped by the coherent, Cherry does not express any opinion about the war, he expresses support for our sons, daughters, brothers, husbands, wives, fathers and mothers, serving in the Canadian Armed Forces.

I know how hard that will be to grasp, by people with limited cognitive skills.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

''National Archive''

It was online and is a matter of public record. Now all Cherry has to do is to use it. If you approve of his war, you may do it as well.

Another person who doesn't read much! Sheesh.

By the way nit wit, those attestation papers are almost a hundred years old. We don't use the same ones we did in in the Dubya Dubya One. Perhaps you could stop by the local recruiting center and say "Hi, my name is Alfred E Newman and I want to use your papers to bring attention to the point on top of my head."

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

The reason I asked if you actually read the article is because the Military Police have exonerated the so called war criminals of any wrong doing. Now I know you and Mr. Amir will cry that they are are military too and that this is just a whitewash and yadda yadda industrial complex yadda yadda, but that is because you have never served and lack understanding.

The military police are a stand alone organization, they have no friends among the general ranks and will lay charges where they are warranted. That is their job and love em or hate em they do it.

Cherry is paid by one of the farthest left organizations in broadcasting, they haven't puilled the plug on him because he draws ratings. Turning the channel is an easy way to tune out his rhetoric, whining only draws more attention to yourself as a whiner and builds his ratings.

Perhaps you should stick with your Dump the Monarchy Campaign and save us a ton of dough. Or not.

I'm sure the military police do a fine job in Canada, but in Afghanistan, I have my doubts. Might be a little tough to gather all the facts during the fog of war. I saw on the CBC news a soldier say one day a local old guy was helpful, and the next day let a soldier die by walking on a mine. That old guy isn't going to get much assistance from Canadian soldiers if he ever needs it I'm sure.

The CBC, far left, give me a break, they are centre left at most, not hard left. But for some tedious middle class types, those are socialist hordes on the march.

Sounds like you think Cherry is indispensible, no one is in this world is. I noticed last Saturday that Cherry made no mention of any soldiers or war. It's a start. I'm beginning to think I could enjoy HNIC without Cherry just fine. I never did think that a few months ago. And I'm not the only one.

 

[talloola]

I never watch him, I switch to another game when he is on, would much rather watch hockey
than his little gig, and thats all it is.

Ifyou listen to him chat with other hockey
guys on the radio, he doesn't talk like that at all, he is quite normal, doesn't shout, and
I have actually listened and enjoyed some of his hockey stories, about his playing days, and
some of the old players he knew.

That shouting stuff is just acting, the whole segment is acting, it is all fake.

I have caught a few of his mention of fallen soldiers, and I appreciate the gesture.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

I never watch him, I switch to another game when he is on, would much rather watch hockey
than his little gig, and thats all it is.

Ifyou listen to him chat with other hockey
guys on the radio, he doesn't talk like that at all, he is quite normal, doesn't shout, and
I have actually listened and enjoyed some of his hockey stories, about his playing days, and
some of the old players he knew.

That shouting stuff is just acting, the whole segment is acting, it is all fake.

I have caught a few of his mention of fallen soldiers, and I appreciate the gesture.

I've watched Cherry quite often and he gets emotional when he talks politics. Sure he's mellow when he talks hockey, because most of what he says on that topic is not controversial.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I'm sure the military police do a fine job in Canada, but in Afghanistan, I have my doubts. Might be a little tough to gather all the facts during the fog of war. I saw on the CBC news a soldier say one day a local old guy was helpful, and the next day let a soldier die by walking on a mine. That old guy isn't going to get much assistance from Canadian soldiers if he ever needs it I'm sure.

You would be wrong.

The CBC, far left, give me a break, they are centre left at most, not hard left. But for some tedious middle class types, those are socialist hordes on the march.

Okay okay I give in they are center ..... of far left.

Sounds like you think Cherry is indispensible, no one is in this world is. I noticed last Saturday that Cherry made no mention of any soldiers or war. It's a start.

I actually don't watch much Hockey. I like Don Cherry, but I've yet to watch Coaches Corner unless I run across it. Having a son who has served in Afghanistan on multiple tours I appreciate that he shows some respect for our fallen. Just as I appreciate the people who stand on the bridges on the 401 (some left some right).

I don't support extending our mission in Afghanistan, but I support our troops all the way. My problem with the war is in how it has been handled and a large part of it is due to inept politicians trying to tie the war up like it is some kind of United Way pledge drive with clearly set time lines.

I'm beginning to think I could enjoy HNIC without Cherry just fine. I never did think that a few months ago. And I'm not the only one.

Well you are entitled to your opinion. For some, it is easier to think of our soldiers as bloodthirsty mercenaries then what they really are. Young kids who have taken an oath to serve and just like any other Canadian they have families, kids, girlfriends, boyfriends, Moms and Dads.

That is what Cherry points out and it hits a raw nerve with those who would rather they [the fallen] be anonymous and forgotten.

 

[Unforgiven]

Right, there's no counterpoint to Chey's one sided bursts. Maclean is a soft muffin. Makes we think we already have Fox sports/news on the CBC.

It's not like en stations ofer hockey on TV, at many times you watch what there is or watch poker. It's no choice at all. Cherry should direct his supporters to his web page.

Well you should have a link to your web page and not talk about this any further. Actually, if you really feel the way you say you do, you shouldn't be posting your opinion here at all. If you do, then you are not only a hypocrite but also a fascist too in that you want to force the issue when it comes to Don Cherry. I bet that a focused campaign here could bring about the very world you wish others to live in so that you can experience first hand that sort of thing.

Who knows dumpy, you may learn and thing or two before the show is over.

 

[talloola]

I've watched Cherry quite often and he gets emotional when he talks politics. Sure he's mellow when he talks hockey, because most of what he says on that topic is not controversial.

he's very emotional about hockey on the tv,hollers all the time, as though we are all deaf, it's only on radio that he is calm and not so loud.

 

[gopher]

''Cheery does not express an opinion about the war''

The commentators who object to his tactics say otherwise:

"'“He’s invoking the soldiers as a way of promoting the war,” Derrick O’Keefe of Stopwar.ca has been quoted as saying, adding Cherry is “100% pro-war.”''

There must be some basis for that unless you in your genius little mind can show that they made it up.


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''Industrial Mil Complex''

War profits - that's what motivates this and all other wars. As always, you are free to fight it yourself nitty.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

''Cheery does not express an opinion about the war''

The commentators who object to his tactics say otherwise:

"'“He’s invoking the soldiers as a way of promoting the war,” Derrick O’Keefe of Stopwar.ca has been quoted as saying, adding Cherry is “100% pro-war.”''

As I said, this is a tactic to minimize the fallen soldiers. Let's hear a real quote from Cherry, instead of spin doctoring on the part of an activist..

 

[Cannuck]

He'll never explain, so I want him to stop and stick to what he knows, and he doesn't know that much about hockey even.....

If Cherry stuck to what he knows, Coaches Corner would be moved to the Women's Network and they would talk about how to look like a complete idiot by wearing the kitchen drapes.

Cherry is there for entertainment value. People like him. Why? Who knows. People liked Milli Vannili, Paris Hilton and Steven Segal movies. Some things will just never be understood. Accept it.

.....Actually, if you really feel the way you say you do, you shouldn't be posting your opinion here at all. If you do, then you are not only a hypocrite but also a fascist too in that you want to force the issue when it comes to Don Cherry. .....

Have you been watching alot of Faux news lately?

 

[ironsides]

That mud sucking coward Derrick O'Keefe is using anyone who supports the troops as being pro-war. Is anyone really pro-war? Cherry is just a real Canadian who happens to support its citizens and those of the United States. when they are sent off to fight a war. Soldiers don't make war, just do the bidding of their governments.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Well you should have a link to your web page and not talk about this any further. Actually, if you really feel the way you say you do, you shouldn't be posting your opinion here at all. If you do, then you are not only a hypocrite but also a fascist too in that you want to force the issue when it comes to Don Cherry. I bet that a focused campaign here could bring about the very world you wish others to live in so that you can experience first hand that sort of thing.

Who knows dumpy, you may learn and thing or two before the show is over.

I don't need to listen to you to be told when to stop talking about an issue. Who do you think you are?

Cherry can talk about controversial issues a little bit, but too much on such a controversial issue gets on my nerves. Supporting the troops is fine, so do I. We need a military in a dangerous world but I don't support foreign military adventures that last a decade. But always talking about soldiers and war to me is another aspect of creeping militarization in our society and I am strongly against that. I can easily avoid Cherry's web site, I cannot so easily avoid HNIC or the CBC-especially when I'm paying for it. On his own time and dime, Cherry can support what he wants. That's not a fascist.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I don't need to listen to you to be told when to stop talking about an issue. Who do you think you are?

Cherry can talk about controversial issues a little bit, but too much on such a controversial issue gets on my nerves. Supporting the troops is fine, so do I. We need a military in a dangerous world but I don't support foreign military adventures that last a decade. But always talking about soldiers and war to me is another aspect of creeping militarization in our society and I am strongly against that. I can easily avoid Cherry's web site, I cannot so easily avoid HNIC or the CBC-especially when I'm paying for it. On his own time and dime, Cherry can support what he wants. That's not a fascist.

Are you so sensitive that you have to be sanitized in everything you hear and read. Nobody is telling you not to oppose the war, in fact you are being given a platform to do so right here and now. Your views on the monarchy are quite evident as well and lo and behold, while some may argue your position no one is demanding that you shut up about it.

As for whose dime its on. Well you're not the only one watching Hockey Night In Canada or Coaches Corner for that matter. A lot of people are tuning in. So that's a lot of dimes wouldn't you say? You have at your disposal the best form of protest available, the ability to get up and make a sandwich while Don Cherry pays tribute to a dead Canadian kid. I noted the other day he paid tribute to Sgt. Ryan Russell, was that evidence of a creeping Police State?

If enough people turn Cherry off during his tributes [and that is all they are] his people will bring him in and say. "Don old boy we need to scale back on talking about soldiers." -but you and others would rather dodge the the process and have your view override everyone else.

It is obvious that a large portion of Canadians now support our soldiers and give pause when they have made the ultimate sacrifice. That sticks in the craw of some in the peace movement, because calling them baby killers and spitting on them was better propaganda. You and others have a myriad of ways to protest the war in Afghanistan, you can vote, you can write, you can conduct peaceful protest at Parliament hill, but censoring another persons opinion is not the way.

One final question. I get you don't support the war. I stopped supporting it when Nato stopped fighting to win. But do you really want to be in league with these guys? Protesting the fallen to advance your views. I know your not as screwed up as these guys, but demanding that Cherry is silenced on this issue is showing disrespect to fallen these Canadians and their families in my humble opinion.

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[Colpy]

I don't need to listen to you to be told when to stop talking about an issue. Who do you think you are?

Cherry can talk about controversial issues a little bit, but too much on such a controversial issue gets on my nerves. Supporting the troops is fine, so do I. We need a military in a dangerous world but I don't support foreign military adventures that last a decade. But always talking about soldiers and war to me is another aspect of creeping militarization in our society and I am strongly against that. I can easily avoid Cherry's web site, I cannot so easily avoid HNIC or the CBC-especially when I'm paying for it. On his own time and dime, Cherry can support what he wants. That's not a fascist.

Then do away with the CBC.

That simple.

We get drowned in lefty PC crap from the Ministry of Truth, and Cherry (who I think has the lowest brain to mass ratio since the brontosaurus) is one of the few who are actually permitted to voice an opinion in line with that of a large portion of the Canadian great unwashed............only because he and Hookey Night in Canada are one of the few money-makers on the CBC and must be preserved.....

If you don't want political messages saturating every single moment of air time, paid for by your tax dollars, the ONLY option is get rid of the CBC.

Your problem, obviously, is you just happen to disagree.........and of course, voices that liberals disagree with must be silenced.

So there.

 

[talloola]

we don't have to get rid of anything, both you liberals and pcs need to mellow out and be more
acceptable of more things.

demanding that people shut up or stop whatever it is they believe in is crap, the rest of us are
living our lives with a much more congenial attitude, and don't demand that people have to be
stopped from having opinions, whether it is cherry or anyone else.

not sure why everything has to be either liberal or pc, life is life, and the quiet majority goes
about their business without putting demands on others, lives their lives efficiently, stays strong
and tries to be a good canadian.

the political connection to everything gets very boring and repetative.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

As for whose dime its on. Well you're not the only one watching Hockey Night In Canada or Coaches Corner for that matter. A lot of people are tuning in. So that's a lot of dimes wouldn't you say? You have at your disposal the best form of protest available, the ability to get up and make a sandwich while Don Cherry pays tribute to a dead Canadian kid. I noted the other day he paid tribute to Sgt. Ryan Russell, was that evidence of a creeping Police State?

If enough people turn Cherry off during his tributes [and that is all they are] his people will bring him in and say. "Don old boy we need to scale back on talking about soldiers." -but you and others would rather dodge the the process and have your view override everyone else.

It is obvious that a large portion of Canadians now support our soldiers and give pause when they have made the ultimate sacrifice. That sticks in the craw of some in the peace movement, because calling them baby killers and spitting on them was better propaganda. You and others have a myriad of ways to protest the war in Afghanistan, you can vote, you can write, you can conduct peaceful protest at Parliament hill, but censoring another persons opinion is not the way.

One final question. I get you don't support the war. I stopped supporting it when Nato stopped fighting to win. But do you really want to be in league with these guys? Protesting the fallen to advance your views. I know your not as screwed up as these guys, but demanding that Cherry is silenced on this issue is showing disrespect to fallen these Canadians and their families in my humble opinion.

I'm not into protesting the fallen, these guys don't completely understand the situation and see themselves as just doing a job. Going on foreign military adventures is more than building dams or infrastructure. Then I see the govt not giving soldiers inadequate medical care and support and I am shocked. These guys take a bullet and the govt abuses them. And right, from a war in Afghan the west and NATO have decided they can't win.

I totally support Canadian troops in the Arctic, and according to this poll in the article below, so do over 60% of the country. Cherry can go up north or to bases across Canada once in a while, I'm okay with that. Yet Cherry doesn't, why not? I heard him say one time that he loved queen Victoria. Sounds like an old blinkered British imperialist to me, I don't support that.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/arctic-security-means-more-than-arctic-sovereignty/article1882672/

Tony Penikett

Arctic security means more than Arctic sovereignty

Then do away with the CBC.

That simple.

We get drowned in lefty PC crap from the Ministry of Truth, and Cherry (who I think has the lowest brain to mass ratio since the brontosaurus) is one of the few who are actually permitted to voice an opinion in line with that of a large portion of the Canadian great unwashed............only because he and Hookey Night in Canada are one of the few money-makers on the CBC and must be preserved.....

If you don't want political messages saturating every single moment of air time, paid for by your tax dollars, the ONLY option is get rid of the CBC.

Your problem, obviously, is you just happen to disagree.........and of course, voices that liberals disagree with must be silenced.

So there.

So one guy needs work on the CBC, so ban it. Not a good plan.

I say that Cherry can support the troops once in a while, but he cannot use his whole segment to "support the troops." That's not what Coach's Corner is about. Considering how popular he is with the troops, he could start his own show supporting the troops and likely get great ratings. I don't care what network he is on. That would be okay with me.

But I don't like militaristic stuff during hockey games. Cherry is crossing a line here and some pushback is in order.

 

[JLM]

Not too many pay serious attention to him anyway. :lol:

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Not too many pay serious attention to him anyway. :lol:

Cherry is on TV, that means many people take him very seriously. Hundreds of thousands of people watch him every week. Getting on TV is quite hard, most of us will never get on TV to talk about anything except a local fire/theft/crime, and then for about five seconds.

Getting on TV, the mass media, is no small feat and very few people get to do it on a regular basis. Cherry's been doing it for quite a while which I would guess he likes it and wants to keep his job. People debate Cherry's ideas, they don't debate most people's ideas. Cherry has influence in Canada and I want to restrict it to hockey.