Pot Tax worth 2$Billion

Jay

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Re: RE: Pot Tax worth 2$Billion

no1important said:
Well tobacco and liquor are legalized and taxed to death so they may as well legalize marijuana and hashish to capitalize on the tax revenue they will receive. Unfortunately pot would more than likely be taxed as high as cigs,booze and gasoline.


And this is why I have just recently decided I like things the way they are.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Pot Tax worth 2$Billi

So? You don't have to pay tax on pot, Jay. You have three choices...you can not smoke it, you can grow your own, or you can pay the taxes.

If it's legalized I doubt that it will be heavily taxed at first. They'll want to get people used to the idea of buying it at the liquor store and smoking tailor-made quirlies. Then they'll start raising the tax rate on it.
 

damngrumpy

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Someone said decriminalize it and tax it. That won't do if you decriminalized it, it would still be
illegal therefore it could not be taxed. You can't apply legal taxation to an activity that is in fact
illegal. The real issue is , will any government have the political will to legalize these substances?
The tax money is appealing, just think the BC Liberals put their government in electoral hot water
sliding the HST under the door, for 1.7 billion. I don't know, if they want to go through the hoops
that legalizing pot would bring about.
 

eh1eh

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Two young guys appear in court after being arrested for smoking dope.
The judge says, "You seem like nice young men, and I'd like to give you a second chance instead of jail time. I want you to go out this weekend and try to convince others of the evils of drug use. I'll see you back in court Monday."
On Monday, the judge asks the first guy, "How did you do over the weekend?"
"Well, your honor, I persuaded 17 people to give up drugs forever."
"Seventeen people? That's wonderful. How did you do it? "
"I used a diagram, your honor. I drew two circles like this: O o. Then I told them that the big circle is your brain before drugs and the small circle is your brain after drugs."
"That's admirable," says the judge. Then he turns to the second guy. "And how did you do?"
"Well, your honor, I persuaded 156 people to give up drugs forever."
"Wow!" says the judge. "156 people! How did you manage to do that?"
"Well, I used a similar diagram," the guy says. "I drew two circles like this: o O. Then I pointed to the little circle and said, 'This is your asshole before prison................


badum bump.. pshht!

 

Unforgiven

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Someone said decriminalize it and tax it. That won't do if you decriminalized it, it would still be
illegal therefore it could not be taxed. You can't apply legal taxation to an activity that is in fact
illegal. The real issue is , will any government have the political will to legalize these substances?
The tax money is appealing, just think the BC Liberals put their government in electoral hot water
sliding the HST under the door, for 1.7 billion. I don't know, if they want to go through the hoops
that legalizing pot would bring about.

Good catch. That's the Fraser institute for you. Some think tank.
One of the worst ideas is to think that Cannabis sales will some how save the day. It won't. For starters, the tax would have to be so low that the people who enjoy Cannabis or use it for medicinal purposes stop buying from what are at this point criminals. Government grown Cannabis is a failure. No one wants it because of poor quality.

Setting up regulation for a legalized Cannabis industry will cost money to enforce, and collect taxes off of to start with. If those taxes put the price of a bag any where near what it is from the local dealer, the dealer will simply lower the price to compete. So no taxes collected.

It's folly to think this could be changed with the stroke of the pen and for the most part, politicians don't have the knowledge to change this situation to start with.

So organized crime wins and the profits they make off of Cannabis sales will continue to buy guns, meth labs, gangsters, cops and politicians.
 

Trotz

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It's just a tourism thing as British Columbians are NOT going to spend $8 on a pre-roll at a "Coffee Shop". Much like liquor, street prices are going to undercut retail but the distinction being, unlike liquor which has to be distilled, just about any Forest Gump can grow a plant.


We already have Yanks come up here to screw escorts in Victoria and receive "sexual massages" from trafficked Asian women in Richmond and Surrey. Legalizing pot just means, much like Amsterdam, the Yanks will be coming up here for their phsyical and mental buzz off.
 

Bar Sinister

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Jan 17, 2010
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Good catch. That's the Fraser institute for you. Some think tank.
One of the worst ideas is to think that Cannabis sales will some how save the day. It won't. For starters, the tax would have to be so low that the people who enjoy Cannabis or use it for medicinal purposes stop buying from what are at this point criminals. Government grown Cannabis is a failure. No one wants it because of poor quality.

Setting up regulation for a legalized Cannabis industry will cost money to enforce, and collect taxes off of to start with. If those taxes put the price of a bag any where near what it is from the local dealer, the dealer will simply lower the price to compete. So no taxes collected.

It's folly to think this could be changed with the stroke of the pen and for the most part, politicians don't have the knowledge to change this situation to start with.

So organized crime wins and the profits they make off of Cannabis sales will continue to buy guns, meth labs, gangsters, cops and politicians.


Precisely. Unless government is willing to offer a product that is cheaper and of at least the same quality as that offered illegally, who would buy it?
 

darkbeaver

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The great crime of cannabis proscription must be addressed. It is without doubt one of the greatest white collar crimes against humanity. Both the medical and industrial restrictions placed on this miracle plant have cost humanity untold misery. It is estimated that fully thirty percent of disease could be successfully treated with cannabis. A non toxic organic chemical compound bounty of unsurpassed utility. Kept from us by the most powerful of organized criminals, bankers and their junk drug making flunkies. There will be no acceptable solution that does not include many many public hangings. Think I'm kidding, just ask someone who suffers the ravages of disease knowing full well the benefit of the drug and the **** supplied by health Canada in their vile and obvious machinations to keep the lid on.
 

Unforgiven

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The great crime of cannabis proscription must be addressed. It is without doubt one of the greatest white collar crimes against humanity. Both the medical and industrial restrictions placed on this miracle plant have cost humanity untold misery. It is estimated that fully thirty percent of disease could be successfully treated with cannabis. A non toxic organic chemical compound bounty of unsurpassed utility. Kept from us by the most powerful of organized criminals, bankers and their junk drug making flunkies. There will be no acceptable solution that does not include many many public hangings. Think I'm kidding, just ask someone who suffers the ravages of disease knowing full well the benefit of the drug and the **** supplied by health Canada in their vile and obvious machinations to keep the lid on.

Plus it makes you a Commie!!!
 

taxslave

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What is the difference between decriminalizing and legalizing? Sounds to me like two ways of saying the same thing.
I don't even care if it is taxed as long as there is no penalty for enjoying what nature provided. Either way we win because there will not be so much money wasted on so called law enforcement or the uncountable billions in damage to peoples lives that a conviction brings.
 

Unforgiven

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What is the difference between decriminalizing and legalizing? Sounds to me like two ways of saying the same thing.
I don't even care if it is taxed as long as there is no penalty for enjoying what nature provided. Either way we win because there will not be so much money wasted on so called law enforcement or the uncountable billions in damage to peoples lives that a conviction brings.

Decriminalizing means that while it is still illegal, you may get what you have confiscated and a fine to discourage being a nuisance with it. Where as legalization means that you can opening possess and enjoy responsibly in your own home or designated place. As it is now, you can be sent to prison and acquire a criminal record that means you can't enter the US or get a number of jobs in this country without a waiver.
 

boats2010

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It would be nice to tap into the cash flow, but it’s a much more complex. First set up the standards for the construction of the operation, and have it inspected. Sell a license for each operation and base it on the number of lights they have. They WILL be paying for power. Now that you have the operation up to standard you should establish a set of parameters for the production of the product. To say fertilizers and pesticides that can be used. Once you have that in place the “ product” could now be de criminalized. This would cost the growers about 40% and put them and par with small business.
While this did not address the rest of the process of product to market it would help in the beginning of a system. Call it the other softwood lumber
 

taxslave

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Decriminalizing means that while it is still illegal, you may get what you have confiscated and a fine to discourage being a nuisance with it. Where as legalization means that you can opening possess and enjoy responsibly in your own home or designated place. As it is now, you can be sent to prison and acquire a criminal record that means you can't enter the US or get a number of jobs in this country without a waiver.

Thanks. But I've been openly possessing and enjoying in my home for a little over 40 years now. We also designated the whole outdoors as a designated smoking place. Living in B.C. one sometimes forgets that the rest of the world is somewhat behind us.