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relic

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Yeah,the ski hill I used to work at had this big sign at the loading area,about twelve foot square,stating that they werent liable for anything,it was bull**** but it saved them a lot of money.You can't believe anything you read,anywhere.
 

TenPenny

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Yeah,the ski hill I used to work at had this big sign at the loading area,about twelve foot square,stating that they werent liable for anything,it was bull**** but it saved them a lot of money.You can't believe anything you read,anywhere.

A lot of places will do that, post a disclaimer that they are not liable for things, but no matter what they say, the law is the law, and there are liabilities they can't just walk away from by posting a sign.
 

Trotz

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The United States banned the Ba'ath Party (Secular Nationalists in Iraq), a ban still enforced by the current 'regime', but I bet you that the United States has never ever banned a Communist Party since the 1990s. After all, you have former Marxist Terrorists like

Bill Ayers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

connected to the White House!

It's hardly any different in Canada; we just happened beat the Americans to it first, in that we elected Pearson and Trudeau.
 

petros

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Re: The rape case against Wikileaks' Julian Assange

The cables were clearly privately owned property that the owner did not put in the public domain. You can describe it in your own words but you don't have the right to steal government intellectual property and post it on the internet. Go to the government of Canada's websites and see for yourself. There are notices written to notify you that the information (which is not for the purpose of commerce) cannot be reproduced without written consent. And the information they refer to is already posted for public consumption.

Important Notices - Health Canada
You don't own jack **** when it come to emails. If you post a poem or photo to a site like fascistbook they own it,not you.

Read the fine print.

Every elctronic piece of info sent is fair game. That is how governments can look into what's going on without warrants.

You're seriously suggesting Pearson and Trudeau were Marxist terrorists? Or even just Marxists?
Marx BROTHERS more than Marxists

The cables were clearly privately owned property that the owner did not put in the public domain. You can describe it in your own words but you don't have the right to steal government intellectual property and post it on the internet. Go to the government of Canada's websites and see for yourself. There are notices written to notify you that the information (which is not for the purpose of commerce) cannot be reproduced without written consent. And the information they refer to is already posted for public consumption.

Important Notices - Health Canada
Can you own the content of a telephone call?
 

Kreskin

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Re: The rape case against Wikileaks' Julian Assange

You don't own jack **** when it come to emails. If you post a poem or photo to a site like fascistbook they own it,not you.

Read the fine print.

Every elctronic piece of info sent is fair game. That is how governments can look into what's going on without warrants.


Marx BROTHERS more than Marxists

Can you own the content of a telephone call?
Field Guide to Secret Audio and Video Recordings | New Media Rights
 

petros

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darkbeaver

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GovermentSachs are the ones who really run Canada. One former and one still employed by GovermentSachs run the Bank of Canada.

And yet there is no "conflict of interest" brought up by even the most democractic of the parties.

For sure for sure, it seems that what constitutes "conflicting interests" has been redefined by some criteria selected behind closed doors at some undisclosed location and some undisclosed time to serve some undisclosed parties who are more important to the Canadian State (possibly secretly redefined as well) than are the actual citizens of this rediculous confused nation of tools and yard apes. It aint where I grew up and I refuse to die here in the international province of Canada a bond slave of the goddamn bankers. Screw everyone of them to the walls.
 

CUBert

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Ezra Levant is hardly neanderthal.........actually, he's brilliant.

And he is absolutely correct about the oilsands.........you can buy your oil here, or you can but it from Nigeria, Venezuela, or Saudi Arabia et al.........because oil ain't going away yet. Personally, I'd rather see the money coming here, than going to the above mentioned bunch of nasties.

I read his book Shakedown. A wonderful indictment of the threat to our freedom, and the persecution of Ezra simply because he did what every single newspaper and magazine in the western world should have done when threatened with violence by the Islamists.....he printed the Mohamed cartoons, and was one of very few with the cojones.....then he defended that action brilliantly, and single-handedly brought the Thought Police of the Human Rights Tribunals into richly-deserved disrepute.

Look it up on Youtube.

Watch it all.........there are 3 or 4 sections.....a lesson on how to really speak truth to power.

And, he is open-minded enough to engage in polite debate, and keep some very surprising friends:

YouTube - Ezra Levant : Political Analyst and Guest Speaker

Notice his offer of space for opposing views........gee wilikers, I'd like to see some of THAT from the left. (your "This Ad hominem bull**** is 5th century and has got to stop." was very revealing, and so typical. (unfortunately)

Ezra says it loud and clear.......and I like that. And he allows for other opinions....I like that, too.

BTW, did you actually READ the link you posted????? Let me quote:



so many words, so few coherent points. such a shame.
 

mentalfloss

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Ezra Levant is hardly neanderthal.........actually, he's brilliant.

And he is absolutely correct about the oilsands.........you can buy your oil here, or you can but it from Nigeria, Venezuela, or Saudi Arabia et al.........because oil ain't going away yet. Personally, I'd rather see the money coming here, than going to the above mentioned bunch of nasties.

I read his book Shakedown. A wonderful indictment of the threat to our freedom, and the persecution of Ezra simply because he did what every single newspaper and magazine in the western world should have done when threatened with violence by the Islamists.....he printed the Mohamed cartoons, and was one of very few with the cojones.....then he defended that action brilliantly, and single-handedly brought the Thought Police of the Human Rights Tribunals into richly-deserved disrepute.

Look it up on Youtube.

Watch it all.........there are 3 or 4 sections.....a lesson on how to really speak truth to power.

And, he is open-minded enough to engage in polite debate, and keep some very surprising friends:

YouTube - Ezra Levant : Political Analyst and Guest Speaker

Notice his offer of space for opposing views........gee wilikers, I'd like to see some of THAT from the left. (your "This Ad hominem bull**** is 5th century and has got to stop." was very revealing, and so typical. (unfortunately)

Ezra says it loud and clear.......and I like that. And he allows for other opinions....I like that, too.

BTW, did you actually READ the link you posted????? Let me quote:


 

Ariadne

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I have to wonder how US citizens feel about this: "U.S. agencies have warned some employees that reading the classified State Department documents released by WikiLeaks puts them at risk of losing their jobs." As a country, they portray themselves has the righteous and free people; claiming to have rights that exceed all other nations in the world, claiming that other countries should model themselves after the United States - sometimes forcing their beliefs on other nations.

Are US citizens going to sit back and allow their rights to access information be curtailed? This threat of job loss for accessing information, combined with the Patriot Act and the access the gov't has to their electronic activity (without a search warrant) sounds so much like Big Brother is Watching. I have to wonder in US citizens view these restrictions in the same way that others do - as a severe interference with freedom - or whether they view this as just another step in fighting those bad terrorists.

quote from here: Will reading WikiLeaks cost students jobs with the federal government? - CNN.com
 

ironsides

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[FONT=arial, Arial, Helvetica]So far the American citizens haven't said to much about Wikileaks, in fact have been very quiet. I am more concerned with his rape accusation that the world seems to be ignoring. As for revealing documents, who knows what is true or not. My opinion about them is that if they were so called state secrets he was revealing that he would be silenced for good. All they have done is arrest him on the rape charges as far as I know, and he is still alive. By the way, nothing has changed as to our rights to information. We were never allowed to access secret or classified material. Yes, having a criminal record may prevent students from getting Federal jobs, it does now, and not just federal jobs.[/FONT]​
 

Ariadne

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The timing of the rape allegation is very suspicious, and there is some question about whether Assange is a celebrity being targeted by a couple of women that want their 15 minutes of fame.

Wikileaks is public information that everyone around the world is reading. Only in the US are citizens being threatened with job loss and the possibility of forfeiting a future job with gov't if they read the information. That's some pretty serious censorship! This sad fact is compounded because of the Patriot Act. All US citizens have no rights to prevent the gov't from snooping into their internet use and email, so gov't employees that read the information on their home computers cannot be sure that they will not be fired for simply reading publicly available information. That, to me, seems like a huge loss of rights ... but I'm on the outside looking in, thankful that my rights are not violated in the same way ... from the inside looking out, it may be possible to continue to claim that people threatened with job loss for accessing public information have more rights than other nations ... along the lines of saying "black is white".

Information is power ... and US citizens really should not shuffle quietly away, heads down, because their gov't is threatening them with job loss for having the same information that the rest of the world is welcome to have.
 
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petros

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Flanagan is not in a position of power. He made no threat. He has no connection with Obama, so he was not counselling murder. The idea that he could be charged is a bad joke.
He teachs in a publicly funded University. That is indeed a postion of power.
 

Ariadne

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Flannagan teaches at the University of Calgary. He is an US citizen that came to Calgary in the late 1960s when the University first opened. Flannagan did not make his statements while lecturing at the University, he made them somewhere else. Is it surpising that his sentiments echo those of the US gov't - a gov't that wants to silence its ever so precious freedom of speech? Not really. It seems that his heart is still in the US. Maybe he should take a position in the US where his beliefs are more widely appreciated.
 

petros

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I'm sure U of C has a Code of Ethics employees must abhere to 24hrs a day and I doubt they really want to be connected to someone who makes those types of comments.
 

petros

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There are 15,000 more documents to be released shortly. I'd assume the best is saved for last. I'm looking forward to the next round.
 

Tonington

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Jamie tried to pay for something today with her Royal Bank credit card routed through pay-pal. Royal Bank denied the transaction, but she was able to pay with her Scotiabank card, which wasn't on pay-pal. I imagine pay-pal is losing some money with those DDOS attacks from the 4chaners. Wikileaks is quite the media circus!
 

Ariadne

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True enough ... but the university has said that they will not pursue disciplinery action for something a professor did outside of the university.