Not really. Here's a pretty good summary of the issues and what we know so far:
http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/The_universe_can't_come_from_nothing
"Nothing" is not a physical system, the rules don't apply. We don't actually know what "nothing" is, we have no experience of it. But it IS true that something can come from nothing, as is stated at the link above, quantum fluctuations are empirically validated.
Never having been formally taught physics, please make allowances for naive blunders here.
" In quantum systems energy obeys the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. Energy
dE can come out of existence for a period of time
dt, where
dE*dt >=h (the uncertainty principle). This is called a quantum fluctuation of the vacuum."
Disregarding for the now the somewhat sweeping part of the Heisenberg principle re the existence of Energy
dE, it would seem to me that it is time
dt is the variant that needs to be the central focal point of scrutiny, rather than the concept (or non-concept so far) of
nothingness.
Is there not the principle (the name of which escapes me at present, of course ::sigh:
that no science, notably physics, no matter how 'purely' applied is simply incapable of avoiding the bias of human interpretation and the present inability to conduct science out of our sliver of a galaxy that may well transform and/or be incapable of presenting necessary data from other parts of the universe because the elements are simply not present within the confines of our galaxy to 'display' them?
However, it is the concept of time
dt and the emerging propositions that I personally find intriguing, YMMV, and the resultant ever growing alternate theories; The Big Bang being relevant to many merely by virtue of disproving established theories and forms only part of the alternate or disputative theorims such as Mandelbrot's fractal cosmology. The theory of
infinite hierarchical nesting of matter (or theory infinite self-similar nesting of matter) is one:
Infinite Hierarchical Nesting of Matter - Wikiversity
"Basic elements of the theory:
The Discrete Self-Similar Cosmological Paradigm focuses on nature’s fundamental organizational principles and symmetries. It emphasizes nature’s hierarchical organization of systems from the smallest observable subatomic particles to the largest observable superclusters of galaxies. The new paradigm also highlights the fact that nature’s global hierarchy is highly stratified into discrete Scales, of which we can currently observe the Atomic, Stellar and Galactic Scales. A third important principle of the paradigm is that the cosmological Scales are rigorously self-similar, such that for each class of objects or phenomena on a given Scale there is analogous class of objects or phenomenon every other cosmological Scale. The self-similar analogues from different Scales have rigorously analogous morphologies, kinematics and dynamics. From the physical point of view the similarity relations lead to similarity of matter levels and SPΦ-symmetry, which asserts the invariance of physical laws operating on different levels of matter.
* In the given theory there are no elementary particles of matter (see preon, parton, electron, quark), the substance is infinite divisible, as opposed to the theory of atomism, which is finding the minimal units of the matter.
* The Universe consists of infinite number enclosed levels of the matter with characteristics similar each other. This leads to the similarity of cosmic systems, including the similarity of shapes, sizes, masses, rates of processes and equations of motion.
* Each level of the matter includes carriers with the certain spectrum of the sizes and masses. The matter is organized itself in stable conditions under the influence of fundamental forces and interactions of objects of different systems.
* Allocation of cosmic objects on the levels of matter that are the stepping stones of the infinite hierarchy of cosmic systems, is based on geometric progression.
* The course of time in terms of rate of occurrence of similar events is much faster at a microlevel and more slowly at a macrolevel.***
* Each sort of "elementary" particles (electrons, nucleons, etc.) does not consist from strictly identical on mass and the size of particles.
* The Universe is eternal, thus carriers of the matter constantly are born and then are transformed to carriers of the same and-or other levels. That the theory falls outside the limits not only atomism, but also the Big Bang which limiting history of the Universe by the moment of its creation.***
* Space is 3-dimensional, its dimension is defined by the structure of the matter. Time in the given theory – independent coordinate from space, also is derivative of speed of movement and development of the matter.
* Action of forces of gravitation and electromagnetism can be explained by modified Le Sage's theory of gravitation. Objects of different levels of matter generate radiation in the form of streams of particles and field quanta, resulting in aggregate to the formation of the fundamental forces acting on objects from other levels of matter. It is also possible that the gravitational field is ordered in a special way the electromagnetic field of a underlying level of matter.
* There is a difference between the concepts of "quantity of matter" and gravitational mass, implying that under certain conditions, different amount of substance may have the same gravitational properties.
* Distribution of systems with living beings among cosmic systems has the same laws, which are inherent to systems with non-living matter."
***[Bold highlighting mine: Bcool]
"The ratio of radius of a neutron star to radius of a proton gives factor of similarity on sizes
P = 2.26 •1019. Full energy of a neutron star without taking into account energy of rest is defined by expression
Es =
Ms
C2, where
C= 5.4•107 m/s – characteristic speed of particles of the neutron star,
Ms – mass of the star. Similarly for a nucleon full energy
En =
Mnc2, where
c = 3•108m/s –
speed of light and characteristic speed of particles in the substance of nucleon,
Mn – mass of a nucleon. The ratio of speed
C to speed of light
c gives factor of similarity on speeds
S = 0.18. The factor of similarity on time is
Π =
P /
S = 1.25•1020. From here follows, that processes at the level of nucleon substances proceed in
Π time more quickly, than at the level of neutron stars."
This provokes even more curiosity on my part: "Max Tegmark classifies different types of simultaneously existing universes, depending on their possible properties. Under this universes he understands objects with dimensions close to the size of our Metagalaxy. It is assumed that such neighboring universes are autonomous and independent from each other, and they may have even other physical laws, or other elementary particles and physical constants." IOW, many more than three dimensions being hypothisized. Which led me to:
Many-worlds interpretation Many-worlds interpretation - Wikiversity
Which leads me to..... It never stops, huh? Yesterday I was enjoying watching a video presentation of James Randi's "The Sleep of Reason" (If Avro happens to notice this, after reading his thread he may well enjoy this) on Richard Dawkins' site:
The Sleep of Reason (7 parts) - James Randi - AAI 2010 - Copenhagen - RichardDawkins.net
and, as usual with anything Dawkins makes one think about (YMMV :lol
, was spending a lot of time pondering deep thinks. Now this....
My brain is going to experience a Big Bang someday soon. LOL
Just my 2 cents folks. :glasses1:
-- "Perhaps, these electrons
Are the Worlds, where five continents,
Arts, knowledge, wars, thrones
And memory of forty centuries!
Still, perhaps, each atom –
the Universe, where hundred of planets;
There – everything, that is here, in volume compressed,
But also what here is not present."
Russian poet Valery Bryusov
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