It Seems Impossible (Declaring the Holocaust a Myth)

[earth_as_one]

The number of Jews who perished in the Holocaust would be far smaller, if it was calculated using the same methodology IBC used to calculate Iraqi civilian deaths, and only included verifiable, documented deaths. Commonly accepted numbers of Holocaust victims correctly include estimates of undocumented deaths.

 

[CDNBear]

I'm not sure what there is to compare between the Holocaust and war deaths in Iraq. :smile: I could see a slight comparison between the Iraq war and WW2.

The number of Jews who perished in the Holocaust would be far smaller, if it was calculated using the same methodology IBC used to calculate Iraqi civilian deaths, and only included verifiable, documented deaths. Commonly accepted numbers of Holocaust victims correctly include estimates of undocumented deaths.

Here's a good site that has references and links to detailed historical accounting's and demographic studies, that support the number of Jews and Non Jews and Non combatant deaths, at the hands of the Nazis.

Noncombatant Deaths in World War II

Aggressive narcissism
Psychopathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bigotry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigot

 

[MHz]

Come and arrest them.

According to you (and your country) that should be (and is) your worldly duty if you want to be 'welcomed' in other lands without the warships in the background.

Which is a lie right there! lol Well at least you have been misinformed...
Iraq Body Count
Sorry charlie.

You are choosing figures that only count those who died from violence, like a bomb or live fire. I can count the civilians who died because the hospital was bombed so they could not obtain first aid for a 'minor ailment'. I can and will count all the civilians who died needlessly from the beginning of Gulf I as Gulf II was the 2nd phase of a 'plan' that had included phase I as a softening up part for the real invasion. Obviously giving you a link to the slant-drilling accusations are not going to change your view so look it up yourself if you care to.

"Documented civilian deaths from violence"
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

I gave myself permission to mourn more than the ones who died from 'violence'. (read the list)
Those are the same ones (age, stature, method of death not restricted to being 'collateral damage') a 'violent death'. I am supposed to mourn for all the Jews and their similar persecution and deaths in Europe in WWII and I do as part of the sorrow that includes even the victims of Dresden. Stopping one form while still promoting heavy bombing in civilian sections would seem to be related, as far as civilians being killed.

So the Nazi's offered to send the Jooo trains west...but the west turned it down?
LMAO

While I try to find statements again that show that to be truthful (combined with something to show immigration to the 'West' (for Jews specifically) was tightened rather than being 'relaxed' even after the persecution was known to be happening).

From The Journal of Historical Review, Fall 1985 (Vol. 6, No. 3), pages 369-373.

(in part)
Wyman makes no secret of his basic outlook. In the preface he describes himself as "strongly pro-Zionist" and a "resolute supporter of the state of Israel." He is a member of the Academic Advisory Board of the Simon Wiesenthal Center of Los Angeles. The bias that pervades this book is reflected, for example, in Wyman's reference to "the alleged Russian massacre of Polish officers at the Katyn forest." (p. 334. Emphasis added.) While eager to accept at face value the unsubstantiated Holocaust story, Wyman is unwilling to acknowledge the indisputably established Soviet slaughter of thousands of leading Poles in the Katyn forest near Smolensk.
Wyman devotes just three pages of "evidence" for the Holocaust itself, including a lengthy excerpt from the widely-quoted affidavit of Hermann Graebe (Nuremberg document 2992-PS) describing a mass shooting of Soviet Jews in 1942. Wyman does not mention (and probably does not know) that in 1964 and 1965 Graebe was proven to have been a professional liar who perjured himself in 145 Allied "war crimes" trials, and that his famous "eyewitness" affidavit is now thoroughly discredited. (See: Der Spiegel, 29 December 1965, pp. 25-28) Also cited is Göring's well-known letter of 31 July 1941 to Heydrich which Wyman describes as the "directive" for "the systematic extermination of all Jews in the Nazi grip." But as the letter's text (not given by Wyman) makes rather clear, and as Martin Broszat and some other anti-Hitler historians have conceded, Göring's reference to "the final solution of the Jewish question" in this key document meant peaceful emigration and deportation, not extermination.
Wyman's main charge is that the British and American political leaders, including President Roosevelt, turned down numerous proposals that they knew would have saved hundreds of thousands of European Jews from certain death at German hands. In doing so, Wyman argues, the Allied leaders showed inexcusable indifference, betrayed their own highly-touted moral principles, and therefore share some historical responsibility for the slaughter of European Jewry.
But there is another explanation for this apparently heinous negligence: Along with others in a position to know, the Allied leaders did not believe their own propaganda that Germany was systematically destroying Europe's Jews. (This point has already been dealt with at some length in The Journal by A. Butz, Winter 1982, and K.C. Gleason, Winter 1984.) Wyman assembles compelling evidence for this alternative explanation, but like other Holocaust historians, he ignores the obvious and tries instead to make the evidence fit his preconceived thesis. To the unbiased reader, the facts he presents actually cast severe doubt on the Holocaust story.


As Wyman repeatedly emphasizes, the U.S. and British governments turned down numerous proposals to accept European Jews out of fear that Hitler would eagerly turn over masses of Jews to the Allies. This issue was brought up, for example, at a White House conference on 27 March 1943 of top American and British wartime leaders, including President Roosevelt, U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull, British Foreign Secretary Anthony Eden, presidential advisor Harry Hopkins and the British Ambassador to Washington, Lord Halifax. Hull raised the question of having the Allies offer to accept 60,000 to 70,000 Jews from Bulgaria, a German ally. Eden replied

that the whole problem of the Jews in Europe is very difficult and that we should move cautiously about offering to take all Jews out of a country like Bulgaria. If we do that, then the Jews of the world will be wanting us to make similar offers in Poland and Germany. Hitler might well take us up on any such offer and there simply are not enough ships and means of tranportation in the world to handle them.
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The conference record shows that no one present objected to or even questioned Eden's statement. Apparently no one really believed the Allied story that the Jews of Poland and Germany were being exterminated.

Oooooo... the American Military Secret Police.... ooooooooo.
Wtf are you talking about? lol

LiveLeak.com - CIA and Nazis 1946
Watch Video Bill Moyer 1947 American Nazi Takeover The Secret at blinkx

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Bill Moyer 1947 American Nazi Takeover The Secret Government a documentary outlining the creation of the CIA by the NAZI remnants from WW2 that Prescott Bush and others were working with. MI5 CIA Vatican the unholy trinity.

This is how they operate even today. I was under the impression that it is because they are an arm of the Military and that is why they are 'forbidden' from operating within the borders of the US. Shin Bet would be the Israeli equal to the CIA with Mossad and the FBI being also equal counterparts.
Secrets of CIA.avi
Secrets of CIA.avi

2:02:15 - 3 years ago
This documentary explains how CIA pioneered, developed,manipulated prisoner abuse, sold drugs, changed regimes and killed millions of people world wide.

They would be the ones reaping the financial rewards from any increase in drug profits in Afghanistan, same as their operations during Viet Nam.

YouTube - ‪CIA Drug Trafficking And Money Making‬‎
Short Clip Cia has had their fingers wrapped around most of the problems in the world, when they cause it.

 

[CDNBear]

The world would be a perfect place, if only if it were for those nasty Joos and CIA's...

 

[MHz]

The world would be a perfect place, if only if it were for those nasty Joos and CIA's...

And a bear masquerading as a jackass, nasty is nasty no matter what costume is being presented as being the real one.

Corrupt and oppressive regimes have been around a lot longer than either of those two groups. who do you think taught them 'their ways'. Tower of London must have been a inspiration in some form as it is still in use today under the term 'black prison'. lol

You know, back in the day when only the 'leaders' were killed and the 'general population' was captured alive and put into 'service' for their new leaders. That trend faded with the 'arrival' of the 'Royals' in all their various forms.

On further reading this article does contain some history after all, rather than just covering recent events alone.
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY EXPOSED


None Is Too Many: Canada and the Jews of Europe 1933-1948
None is Too Many: Canada and the Jews of Europe 1933-1948 (1983) is a book co-authored by Canadian historians Irving Abella and Harold Troper.

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Harold Troper and Irving Abella​

First published in 1983 by Lester & Orpen Dennys, the book argues that the Canadian government did less than other Western countries to help Jewish refugees between 1933 and 1948. According to official statistics, only 5,000 Jewish refugees entered Canada during this period, the lowest record of any Western country.

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The authors point at Frederick Charles Blair, the head of immigration in the Mackenzie King administration for actively limiting Jewish immigration from the top. They also claim Blair had the full support of Mackenzie King, prime minister during the war, Canada's high commissioner to Britain Vincent Massey and both Anglophone and Francophone elites in general.
The title is based on an anecdote given in the book. In early 1945, an unidentified immigration agent was asked how many Jews would be allowed in Canada after the war. He replied "None is too many".
It is during the 1950s that the Canadian immigration policy began to change, allowing more Jews and in general non-Christian and non-White immigrants. Restrictions on Asian immigration lasted until the 1960s. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=None_Is_Too_Many:_Canada_and_the_Jews_of_...
EVIAN CONFERENCE 1938

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The Évian Conference was convened at the initiative of US President Franklin D. Roosevelt in July 1938 to discuss the issue of increasing numbers of Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi persecution. For eight days, from July 6 to July 13, representatives from thirty-one countries met at Évian-les-Bains, France. Twenty-four voluntary organizations also attended, as observers, many of whom presented plans orally and in writing.[1] The fact that the conference did not pass a resolution condemning the German treatment of Jews was widely used in Nazi propaganda.[2] It can be argued that the failure to agree on who should receive Jewish migrants from Germany further emboldened Hitler in his assault on European Jewry.[3]
In 1939, the British White Paper capped Jewish immigration to Palestine at 75,000 over the next five years, after which the country was to become an independent state with an Arab majority. Jewish refugees could no longer find countries willing to admit them. Before the Conference, the United States and Great Britain made an agreement: the British promised not to bring up the fact that the U.S. was not filling its immigration quotas, and any mention of Palestine as a possible destination for Jewish refugees was excluded from the agenda.[4]
http://open.salon.com/blog/marygrav/2010/06/01/gazansjews1939ignored_by_the_westholocaust_act_2

 

[CDNBear]

And a bear masquerading as a jackass.

That's right, I only mascaraed as a "jackass". While you mascaraed as someone with a coherent thought...

Corrupt and oppressive regimes have been around a lot longer than either of those two groups. who do you think taught them 'their ways'. Tower of London must have been a inspiration in some form as it is still in use today under the term 'black prison'. lol

Ya, the Tower of London's been around a lot longer then those terrible Joos eh...



Morning mhz, let me know when you wake up. You get a thumbs up for actually making me laugh out loud for the first time today.

 

[Goober]

The number of Jews who perished in the Holocaust would be far smaller, if it was calculated using the same methodology IBC used to calculate Iraqi civilian deaths, and only included verifiable, documented deaths. Commonly accepted numbers of Holocaust victims correctly include estimates of undocumented deaths.

Babbling Brook - The Nazi's kept immaculate records. But that would not be considered as you know very little about the Shoah.

EAO

I've never made a racist comment about Jews in my life.



Thread Israel the Right to exist - You also voted unsure - DUFUS - Try harder next time as I am sure other have your quotes that are Anti Jew -

CanaduhThe Native American "holocaust" happened before the media could latch onto it, not to mention the fact they dont own the media like the jews do. Every time the Israels do something or someone speaks out against them they play the holocaust get out of jail free card.

Post 42 EAO - Your Posts below - Jewish Cabals controls the Media - I was surprised how you let that slip out - .

I would have expected the 65th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz to get far less coverage than the 65th anniversary of D-Day, the end of WW II or even the second anniversary of Israel's ongoing Gaza blockade/crime against humanity. The holocaust gets more news coverage now than when it was happening.

EAO
You made the above comment when world leaders were at the memorial events - It appears there was to much coverage for you - Well the press does that when leaders of many countries attend ceremonies - But as they were remebering Jews Murdered that does not sink into your thick head.


I would agree that the holocaust is an important historical event, but that's not why it gets so much news coverage. I'm inclined to agree with Canaduh's and Finklestein's observations regarding the constant and overwhelming Holocaust news coverage. Its being used as cover for Israeli atrocities.

EAO - Not much news coverage of the Extermination of the Jews during the War - But you appear to imply or believe there was.
Now go out and get a new Bed Sheet - The one you are wearing is starting to stink - Much like your philosophy

Babbling Brook - Still waiting?????

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I disagree with you regarding the role of religion in the Holocaust.

Whatever you think I said, I disagree with it too. I didn't say religion had a role in the Holocaust, it was unthinking ideology. Extremist religion is an example of one that's probably familiar to everybody here so that's the example I offered. Nazism is less familiar because it hasn't really been around for a while in any organized form, but it's the same kind of unthinking ideology as religious extremism, as is Stalinism and Maoism and whatever Pol Pot called what he was doing, and so on. They all play to the same weaknesses in human psychology and share many common features.

 

[petros]

Nazi were heaviliy into the occult. That was their "extreme religion". Is there any occultism in high levels of politics today? It would suck if it were all to happen again but under a different occult theme.

 

[MHz]

Morning mhz, let me know when you wake up. You get a thumbs up for actually making me laugh out loud for the first time today.

There goes your claim about about me having no purpose or direction.

Ever run into any forced sterilization info in your travels. I know this person in Alberta that underwent that procedure because she was 'deemed to be a moron' and then spent most of her life babysitting children from infants till they didn't need a sitter. Today she is working more or less full-time while receiving AISHE because education ended at the same time she was sterilized (about 16). Some years back I asked her if she had heard about a class-action lawsuit that had been won and I asked if she had her name on the list. Her reply of "What good would it do?" is understandable as far as the operation being reversible. However, I have to wonder if 'grief counseling' was also part of that same 'package'. To the point somebody who would offer some mental comfort and advice that accepting a monetary compensation is still in her interest esdpecially if she is under financial stress these days. Her mental judgments make her very submissive in the 'presence of an authority figure'. Since she does have a Social Worker wouldn't that be part of her 'job' to assure she gets what she is entitled to even though the money would be coming from the same agency that pays her salary.

Dwell on that if you ever get tired of a situation that isn't going to change no matter how many words are written about it. Palestine has as much chance of surviving as the Indians did as soon as America was discovered. Doesn't matter if the disassembly of the local people took 100 or 200 years, that was the goal as soon as the fur trade was over and settlers began to arrive in droves.

Whatever you think I said, I disagree with it too. I didn't say religion had a role in the Holocaust, it was unthinking ideology. Extremist religion is an example of one that's probably familiar to everybody here so that's the example I offered. Nazism is less familiar because it hasn't really been around for a while in any organized form, but it's the same kind of unthinking ideology as religious extremism, as is Stalinism and Maoism and whatever Pol Pot called what he was doing, and so on. They all play to the same weaknesses in human psychology and share many common features.

The Vatican was not idle in those days and, as usual, they were in good standing with the military powers, more in Italy than with Germany itself. The Swiss (atheists) were not immune to accepting gold and other 'treasures' for 'safe keeping' no matter who won the actual territory once the guns were finally silenced.

 

[CDNBear]

There goes your claim about about me having no purpose or direction.

I've never argued your purpose as an excellent joke/punchline.

Ever run into any forced sterilization info in your travels. I know this person in Alberta that underwent that procedure because she was 'deemed to be a moron' and then spent most of her life babysitting children from infants till they didn't need a sitter. Today she is working more or less full-time while receiving AISHE because education ended at the same time she was sterilized (about 16). Some years back I asked her if she had heard about a class-action lawsuit that had been won and I asked if she had her name on the list. Her reply of "What good would it do?" is understandable as far as the operation being reversible. However, I have to wonder if 'grief counseling' was also part of that same 'package'. To the point somebody who would offer some mental comfort and advice that accepting a monetary compensation is still in her interest esdpecially if she is under financial stress these days. Her mental judgments make her very submissive in the 'presence of an authority figure'. Since she does have a Social Worker wouldn't that be part of her 'job' to assure she gets what she is entitled to even though the money would be coming from the same agency that pays her salary.

I'm really sorry you can't have kids.

Dwell on that if you ever get tired of a situation that isn't going to change no matter how many words are written about it. Palestine has as much chance of surviving as the Indians did as soon as America was discovered. Doesn't matter if the disassembly of the local people took 100 or 200 years, that was the goal as soon as the fur trade was over and settlers began to arrive in droves.

Funny, me and my peeps are still here, so I guess we survived.

I'm starting to understand why you were sterilized though.

 

[MHz]

I've argued your purpose as an excellent joke/punchline.

I'm really sorry you can't have kids.

Funny, me and my peeps are still here, so I guess we survived.

I'm starting to understand why you were sterilized though.

lol, including the word 'idiot' sort of took away the glory of the compliment. You might have started a new trend, 'factual entertainment' to replace 'now you know the rest of the story' radio program of days gone past.

I can, the person mentioned is my older sister. Today she is in her '60's. Walmart must get her at a subsidized rate or there are no 20 year old kids willing to work there. lol

Good for you and your peeps, too bad most of your relatives didn't make it and many of your 'cousins' act as extinct as I will be in about 20 more years. (on the premise that my father and my grandfater both died 4 days before their 76th birthday.

 

[CDNBear]

lol, including the word 'idiot' sort of took away the glory of the compliment. You might have started a new trend, 'factual entertainment' to replace 'now you know the rest of the story' radio program of days gone past.

Wow, there's that mascaraed again...

I can, the person mentioned is my older sister. Today she is in her '60's. Walmart must get her at a subsidized rate or there are no 20 year old kids willing to work there. lol

So you were both sterilized?

Good for you and your peeps, too bad most of your relatives didn't make it and many of your 'cousins' act as extinct as I will be in about 20 more years. (on the premise that my father and my grandfater both died 4 days before their 76th birthday.

Way to obfuscate that fact that your primary assertion was patently false.

 

[MHz]

Wow, there's that mascaraed again...
So you were both sterilized?
Way to obfuscate that fact that your primary assertion was patently false.

Don't get too carried away, I was referencing being there to 'cheer you up part', no different than throwing you a stick on the days you just can't help admitting how 'bored' you are. (I have to assume that is with life in general as anybody bored with the net gets up and does something, lol)

In a manner of speaking, I decided the world seems to have enough short pre-mature bald people. Running around without shoes till school started didn't add to something I would want my children to endure. In my sisters case the 'state' decided she should not have children but should be relegated to a life of being a nanny to others who were too busy to spend time with their own children. More than a little irony there.
Perhaps that has something to do with why she never married, farming communities mean large families usually.

Letting a few live as tokens of how generous your new owners are , after a little time with the Nuns that is. You didn't survive, you became what you first despised. You certainly came out a winner alright. Now it is time to say bye if you have nothing to add to the thread topic, your feel good time is pretty much used up for the rest of the month.
In the 23 year court case that started with a ride in a big black car with two very large fellows was not part of the partnership papers. Actions like that result in bolt being put into the receiver. Not the best solution but it doesn't take very long to arrive at a conclusion to events like that.

I'd invite you along but I don't see you as being much help in getting her some deserved compensation and some counseling about the effects of that invasion of her body. Or carry on with a follow-up as to why I should head for a court-house to spend $10 per search and $1/page for a hardcopy when the Alberta Courts site has a judgments page that covers outcomes going back as far as '98. A simple little 'sue-your-crooked-partners' matter should at least be some sort of 'blip'. The summary is free and it would certainly shows most of the details of the various cases.

Why people object to close examination of some things is understandable in my two examples. The 'criminals' would rather see little or no publications about the events. Germany, and Poland to a greater degree since that held a higher number of Jews that came under 'state approved' human rights crimes. Legal at the time but deemed to be a 'crime' at a later date. For the events of WWII there is a question about the actual number, the one 'promoted' and the actual number that were killed by any/all means. If the 6M figure is promoted very early on compared to after all the digging around for the opinions and proofs that are used in publications that appear after 1950 then that number was used to promote an agenda. Same as all of your posts have a purpose of making somebody (me on certain occasions) appear as being foolish when the part you should be replying to is the words that are on the topic or have a ? at the end of a thought. More than a few on this site take that as a ignore/do not respond sign to make any thread anything more than a side-show. lol

Anyway, with the Indian reservations not being very successful and total extermination being frowned on and a 60 years forced integration being no better than a permanent street riot I wonder if the plans for Iran run along the same as they do for Afghanistan, (control the land and put the 'citizens' under 4th World conditions) and Iraq (a slow but complete extermination via birth defects)???

 

[CDNBear]

Don't get too carried away, I was referencing being there to 'cheer you up part', no different than throwing you a stick on the days you just can't help admitting how 'bored' you are. (I have to assume that is with life in general as anybody bored with the net gets up and does something, lol)

Somtimes the weathers bad, or the AC feels so much better then the heat. Than sometimes I'm stuck here because I have work to do and can't leave the office.

But hey, I get bored and need stimulating conversation or funny people to play with. Thank gawd Dex and several others take care of the former, while you lock up the latter.

In a manner of speaking, I decided the world seems to have enough short pre-mature bald people.

A moot point since you were sterilized, no doubt.

Running around without shoes till school started didn't add to something I would want other children to endure.

Ya, gawd forbid kids run around barefoot and having fun...

In my sisters case the 'state' decided she should not have children but should be relegated to a life of being a nanny to others who were too busy to spend time with their own children.

We all need a vocation, you have McDonald's, your sister has being a Nanny. I'm sure you both find your chosen fields challenging and rewarding. Although I'd wager since you work at McDonald's and your sister works with children, you both find your fields extremely challenging.

Perhaps that has something to do with why she never married

I think it's more likely that genetic defect of being short and bald, that you claim runs in your family.

Letting a few live as tokens of how generous your new owners are , after a little time with the Nuns that is.

Ya SCB had me registered as a "Pet" years ago. I still wear the ring signifying her ownership. But what can I say, the sex is good and being shared with her hot girlfriends is just so pleasing.

You certainly came out a winner alright.

That's the truth. There but for the grace of gawd I always say. Especially when I meet people such as yourself with such a lousy hand dealt them by genetics.

Now it is time to say bye if you have nothing to add to the thread topic, your feel good time is pretty much used up for the rest of the month.

That's to bad, you're such a ray of sunshine and an inspiration to everyone that isn't physically deformed.

I'd invite you along but I don't see you as being much help in getting her some deserved compensation and some counseling about the effects of that invasion of her body.

Ya, but I sure would feel great. I'd be the hot looking one in the group.

Or carry on with a follow-up as to why I should head for a court-house to spend $10 per search and $1/page for a hardcopy when the Alberta Courts site has a judgments page that covers outcomes going back as far as '98.

I can lend you the money if you want. Doesn't Alberta give ugly people legal aid?

A simple little 'sue-your-crooked-partners' matter should at least be some sort of 'blip'. The summary is free and it would certainly shows most of the details of the various cases.

Well if it's free, then you can afford that non?

Why people object to close examination of some things is understandable in my two examples.

I can see why you would be uncomfortable with close examination. The part I can't believe, is someone wanting to get close enough to you to examine you.

The 'criminals' would rather see little or no publications about the events. Germany, and Poland to a greater degree since that held a higher number of Jews that came under 'state approved' human rights crimes. Legal at the time but deemed to be a 'crime' at a later date. For the events of WWII there is a question about the actual number, the one 'promoted' and the actual number that were killed by any/all means. If the 6M figure is promoted very early on compared to after all the digging around for the opinions and proofs that are used in publications that appear after 1950 then that number was used to promote an agenda.

Ya.

Same as all of your posts have a purpose of making somebody (me on certain occasions) appear as being foolish when the part you should be replying to is the words that are on the topic or have a ? at the end of a thought.

I've seen you post "?". But that's it.

More than a few on this site take that as a ignore/do not respond sign to make any thread anything more than a side-show. lol

I agree, which is why my sig says it all about the side show any conversation with you is.

Anyway, with the Indian reservations not being very successful and total extermination being frowned on and a 60 years forced integration being no better than a permanent street riot I wonder if the plans for Iran run along the same as they do for Afghanistan, (control the land and put the 'citizens' under 4th World conditions) and Iraq (a slow but complete extermination via birth defects)???

You're missing some info there, but I wouldn't want to interrupt your generalization with any facts, so please, by all means, carry on.

 

[MHz]

lol That about sums it up, bye.

 

[CDNBear]

lol That about sums it up, bye.

Finally, you concede to facts...

Another lol for actually making me lol for real...again.

 

[earth_as_one]

EAO

I've never made a racist comment about Jews in my life...

IMO, you have not added anything to this discussion deserving of a response. Be polite and respectful in accordance with forum rules and I might give you a response. Be disrespectful, rude and obnoxious and I'll continue to ignore you.

THE PERSONAL ATTACKS HAVE TO STOP! Enough is Enough.
Much of the off-topic stuff has been shoveled out'a here, and the
Personal Attacks that I've seen have been removed...but eough.
Quit it.

I agree. Please have respect for other opinions. Moderators shouldn't have to shovel the crap off these threads.

 

[CDNBear]

Be factual, post evidence that completely negates my opinion, and I'll continue to ignore you.

fify.

Please have respect for other opinions.

 

[Goober]

IMO, you have not added anything to this discussion deserving of a response. Be polite and respectful in accordance with forum rules and I might give you a response. Be disrespectful, rude and obnoxious and I'll continue to ignore you.



I agree. Please have respect for other opinions. Moderators shouldn't have to shovel the crap off these threads.

I as is my right, passed down over millenia, from father to son, awarded you an Aboriginal name. - Are you now insulting my heritage.

Sure I'll bite...

From Goober's original post...
"the United Kingdom has not changed the curriculum because of ’muslim population beliefs.’ "




Yes everyone should be aware of man's great inhumanities toward man. War crimes and crimes against humanity should be part of the curriculum.

Crime against humanity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
War crime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Everyone should be aware of who the world's the mass killers are/were. The curriculum should be clear, concise, complete.

Regarding the holocaust, these three C's can be rather murky. No one knows exactly how many people died in this atrocity.

Wiki:
No doubt a huge atrocity happened involving millions of people. The exact number of people who perished in this atrocity varies, depending on who you include and exclude from this exclusive category.

Most people accept that six million Jews were victims of this atrocity. seems like a rather exact number to me. I suppose its possible that Germans killed precisely 6000000 Jews. Germans are known for their precision in automobiles, watches, and so on... similar preciseness regarding death camps is possible, rather than the number being an approximate estimate gave by one of the convicted and executed killers.

I'm not sure I'd like to question this precise number given that examining this subject closely can lead to criminal persecution in many countries...

wiki
Denial of most other atrocities is legal in most countries.

What is especially amazing is that unlike other atrocity victims "The Holocaust" victims got a land without people for a people without land.

Unfortunately the resulting ethnic cleansing war killed thousands and displaced about a million people.

Since then, "The Holocaust" continues to be exploited:
The Holocaust Industry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have no doubt that Jews have suffered centuries of oppression and injustice, which makes what's going on so unbelieveable. If any group of people should known what its like to suffer, its the Jews of Europe. I would have expected empathy...

I can't describe what's going on more accurate than these fellow human beings:

Sir Gerald Bernard Kaufman
YouTube - ‪UK Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza‬‎

end quote...

I agree.

The Holocaust should be taught. If we don't learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.
http://thereport.amnesty.org/sites/default/files/AIR2010_AZ_EN.pdf#page=129

EAO

The Holocaust was removed from the British Curriculum then due to the uproar - Proper thing - It was then reinstated -

As to the Roma being executed, correct, homosexuals, Catholic and Protestant Clergy - But the Jews were at the top of the list.