It's funny, but Mum never heard the term till she left C. Galway and came to North Am. lol She says it wasn't a familiar term in the area she came from.
Man says racial profiling led to ticket in Quebec
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Geez, I can't even find any quotes from the damn movie... *sigh*
I hadn't heard it until today... frankly it still doesn't make much sense to me, since most Irish people I know aren't red heads or fair skinned. Why would you need a term for normal diversity?
I hadn't heard it until today... frankly it still doesn't make much sense to me, since most Irish people I know aren't red heads or fair skinned. Why would you need a term for normal diversity?
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Black Irish is a traditional term commonly used among Irish American communities; it ascribes to a dark brown or black hair phenotype appearing in people of Irish descent. This can be distinguished in contrast to the (lighter) brown, blond, or red hair color variant, the latter stereotypically perceived to personify the look of typical Irish folk.[1][dead link]
The term 'Black Irish' is ambiguous and not frequently used in everyday conversation. People from different locales and at alternate junctures in history have coined it for varying reasons. Likewise, there are those whose opinions differ as to the typical physical characteristics of so-called Black Irish: e.g., dark hair, brown eyes, and medium skin tone; or dark hair, blue or green eyes, and fair skin tone.
More recently, genetic studies have provided new insights into the heritage of Irish people as well as their neighbors from the British Isles. Researchers suggest that migrations from Prehistoric Iberia can be viewed as the primary source for their genetic material, having demonstrated marked similarities with modern representatives of the aforementioned time period in that of the Basque people. Proponents of these findings dismiss the influence of better known historic migrations of Roman, Anglo-Saxon, and Norman invaders as having had a lesser impact on overall genetics of the populations."
Black Irish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Black Irish is a traditional term commonly used among Irish American communities; it ascribes to a dark brown or black hair phenotype appearing in people of Irish descent. This can be distinguished in contrast to the (lighter) brown, blond, or red hair color variant, the latter stereotypically perceived to personify the look of typical Irish folk.[1][dead link]
The term 'Black Irish' is ambiguous and not frequently used in everyday conversation. People from different locales and at alternate junctures in history have coined it for varying reasons. Likewise, there are those whose opinions differ as to the typical physical characteristics of so-called Black Irish: e.g., dark hair, brown eyes, and medium skin tone; or dark hair, blue or green eyes, and fair skin tone.
More recently, genetic studies have provided new insights into the heritage of Irish people as well as their neighbors from the British Isles. Researchers suggest that migrations from Prehistoric Iberia can be viewed as the primary source for their genetic material, having demonstrated marked similarities with modern representatives of the aforementioned time period in that of the Basque people. Proponents of these findings dismiss the influence of better known historic migrations of Roman, Anglo-Saxon, and Norman invaders as having had a lesser impact on overall genetics of the populations."
Black Irish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Like that movie with Samuel Jackson in it where he wears a kilt and carries a golf club everywhere? That was hilarious.
OMG YOU'RE RACIST, DO YOU THINK BLACK PEOPLE EXIST TO MAKE YOU LAUGH????????????????????????/ :bigsmurf:
This one has Bernie Mac trying to convince a group of Irishmen that he's a member of their union if I recall correctly. He goes on a big rant about being black and Irish... it was funny.
Even funnier when my father was in the Navy and in Spain an older Spanish woman upon hearing he was Irish and seeing his features said something and it was translated back to him...
"My grandmother says that it looks like you have a little Spanish in you."
"Because of my skin?"
...translated...
"She says yes your skin but it is mostly your eyes. She says welcome home."
My Dad said she was nodding approvingly. I always liked that story.
Partially. lmao That should read, however, "OMG you're racist, do you think humanity exists to make you laugh?" lol
Yeah, it is kind of nice.
There's evidence that the Celts also interbred with Kurds, too. That'd add a little alternative genetic color, also.
On my mother's side...red heads LITTER the whole family. LOL. Fiery redheads too! Gingers for sure! All from Newfoundland, or I should say my Mom's parent's were.
Yeah, it is kind of nice.
There's evidence that the Celts also interbred with Kurds, too. That'd add a little alternative genetic color, also.
The Kurds! How the heck did that happen!
Educate me please. Weren't the Celts more than just the Irish? Weren't they from all of the British Isles and parts of France. Weren't the Gauls considered Celts?
Oh yes there isssssss.
Here's a map of the ancient range of the Celts:
Saladin spread his influence from as far west as Spain and as far north as Hungary.
The Ancient Celts: Amazon.co.uk: Barry Cunliffe: Books
Yup
Something sounds fishy to me, he was pulled over because of his name? How is that a reason to be pulled over? Do they have their names on the plate or something. This just sounds odd to me.
The name didn't match the driver, according to the Officer.
No, when an Officer runs a plate number, the owner's name comes up.
Ahh, I see, thanks for clearing that up
But as a regular white guy if the name Hing Lee Yang came up would the officer not have had a right to pull me over? Obviously I am not oriental?
Somehow I think this whole event is a bit overblown. When a name so obviously different from the appearance of the occupant could the officer not be able to make a judgment call? It does not necessarily have to be racial profiling.
What if a male driver came up as Mabel? Could an officer not question this? I think some people are too fast to cry wolf, there are a lot of bigger things to make issues of.
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Anytime.
I'm ok with that. But many people see it as "racial profiling" and that's just bad in their eyes.
Personally, if someone stole my car and they didn't match my name, then I would want that Officer to pull them over and get my damned car back.
It could easily be called "Genealogical profiling", I'm of the mind set "who cares". The Officer was actually doing something other than consuming donuts and coffee.
Hmmm, gender profiling, SCB (My wife) brought that up years ago, when she used to get pulled over in my car.
As a 'regular black guy', what should this gentleman's name be? If his relatives have been in Quebec for a couple generations, and his father's a frenchman, for example, what should his name be? Do we start classifying this down at the hospital? "We're sorry Mrs. Debellefuille, you can't give your babies their father's last name, they came out too dark."
And as a 'regular white guy', if your dad were Asian, would you find it fair to get pulled over everytime a cop runs your plates because you didn't come out looking Asian enough?
Given the large Haitian community in Quebec, I'm surprised this actually happened. But I still don't care.
The Officers intent was to make sure nothing was a miss. Not harass a Black man.