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The reason for the Muslim decline
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God guides and misguides.
In case this young man, became Christian because of "love your enemy"; then almost it is a love story: and God is All-Knowing.
I saw a similar event when a Muslim became a Christian: when he discovered that he was not the true son of his family, and that they adopted him from a church; so it was a shock for him that suddenly he discovered he was not their son, but an illegal son adopted from the church when he was a newly born infant; so his reaction was that he apostaised and became a Christian, changed his name and married a Christian girl.
If it was true that he have liked Jesus, while all Muslims do like Jesus and love Jesus, and not necessarily they become Christians and disbelieve in the latest religion and latest revealed book and Prophet Mohammed, and he knows who is Prophet Mohammed, but this man is confused and confounded by Satan's temptation, which worked for him, and Satan was successful in his plan.
It is only the suggestion of Satan and the instigation of love maybe, and God is the All-Knowing about his real motives.
Moreover, the words in the link about the Islam as a bad religion; such words are not the words of this young man, but some people commented about him.
I say that love blinds the thinking and blurrs the vision and makes the young man like the drunken.
My advise to this young man:
I like to say to this young man, if he once reads my words: Have you left your monotheism to the trinity? Have you left your belief in the apostlehood of Prophet Mohammed the seal of the prophets? Have you left your belief in the apostlehood of Jesus Christ to the belief in Jesus as the son of God and that Jesus is God Himself and that Jesus is part of trinity?
When you are a Muslim, don't you love Jesus? And when you become a Christian does your love to Jesus change? So love Jesus and Mohammed and all the prophets of God, and repent or else you will completely loose in the afterlife, although in this life of the World they may give you prizes and rewards, to encourage you.
The story of Canaan the grandson of Noah who fell in love:
This is in the Quran 6: 71
قُلْ أَنَدْعُو مِن دُونِ اللّهِ مَا لاَ يَنفَعُنَا وَلاَ يَضُرُّنَا وَنُرَدُّ عَلَى أَعْقَابِنَا بَعْدَ إِذْ هَدَانَا اللّهُ كَالَّذِي اسْتَهْوَتْهُ الشَّيَاطِينُ فِي الأَرْضِ حَيْرَانَ لَهُ أَصْحَابٌ يَدْعُونَهُ إِلَى الْهُدَى ائْتِنَا قُلْ إِنَّ هُدَى اللّهِ هُوَ الْهُدَىَ وَأُمِرْنَا لِنُسْلِمَ لِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ
In case this young man, became Christian because of "love your enemy"; then almost it is a love story: and God is All-Knowing.
I saw a similar event when a Muslim became a Christian: when he discovered that he was not the true son of his family, and that they adopted him from a church; so it was a shock for him that suddenly he discovered he was not their son, but an illegal son adopted from the church when he was a newly born infant; so his reaction was that he apostaised and became a Christian, changed his name and married a Christian girl.
If it was true that he have liked Jesus, while all Muslims do like Jesus and love Jesus, and not necessarily they become Christians and disbelieve in the latest religion and latest revealed book and Prophet Mohammed, and he knows who is Prophet Mohammed, but this man is confused and confounded by Satan's temptation, which worked for him, and Satan was successful in his plan.
It is only the suggestion of Satan and the instigation of love maybe, and God is the All-Knowing about his real motives.
Moreover, the words in the link about the Islam as a bad religion; such words are not the words of this young man, but some people commented about him.
I say that love blinds the thinking and blurrs the vision and makes the young man like the drunken.
My advise to this young man:
I like to say to this young man, if he once reads my words: Have you left your monotheism to the trinity? Have you left your belief in the apostlehood of Prophet Mohammed the seal of the prophets? Have you left your belief in the apostlehood of Jesus Christ to the belief in Jesus as the son of God and that Jesus is God Himself and that Jesus is part of trinity?
When you are a Muslim, don't you love Jesus? And when you become a Christian does your love to Jesus change? So love Jesus and Mohammed and all the prophets of God, and repent or else you will completely loose in the afterlife, although in this life of the World they may give you prizes and rewards, to encourage you.
The story of Canaan the grandson of Noah who fell in love:
This is in the Quran 6: 71
قُلْ أَنَدْعُو مِن دُونِ اللّهِ مَا لاَ يَنفَعُنَا وَلاَ يَضُرُّنَا وَنُرَدُّ عَلَى أَعْقَابِنَا بَعْدَ إِذْ هَدَانَا اللّهُ كَالَّذِي اسْتَهْوَتْهُ الشَّيَاطِينُ فِي الأَرْضِ حَيْرَانَ لَهُ أَصْحَابٌ يَدْعُونَهُ إِلَى الْهُدَى ائْتِنَا قُلْ إِنَّ هُدَى اللّهِ هُوَ الْهُدَىَ وَأُمِرْنَا لِنُسْلِمَ لِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ
The explanation:
(Say: "Shall we call, apart from God, on [idols] that neither profit nor hurt us, and shall we be turned back on our heels, even after that God has guided us;
(Say: "Shall we call, apart from God, on [idols] that neither profit nor hurt us, and shall we be turned back on our heels, even after that God has guided us;
like one [: Canaan, the grandson of Noah] deceived by the [human] devils in the earth,
so was perplexed,
[and] having some friends [in the Ark] calling him to guidance, [saying to him]: "Come with us [on the Ark!]"
so was perplexed,
[and] having some friends [in the Ark] calling him to guidance, [saying to him]: "Come with us [on the Ark!]"
Say [Mohammed]: "God's guidance is the [sure] guidance [: You cannot misguide him whom God has guided], and we are commanded to surrender to the Lord of the worlds.")
Because those devils promised to give him that girl whom he loved in case he left his grandfather Noah and stay with them; so he was preplexed: will he stay and have his beloved girl and then incur God's wrath, or will he go with Noah in the Ark and be saved from the drowning; then he thought that he may resort to a high mountain to be safe from the drowning, but then he was drowned together with the disbelievers.
See the details of the explanation of this aya here:
http://www.quran-ayat.com/shabaha/6.htm#71
See the details of the explanation of this aya here:
http://www.quran-ayat.com/shabaha/6.htm#71
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Another reason for such an outcome of this young man is that:
he might have been obliged to do so and to take other steps to the advantage of the zionists; because the intelligence agencies have many devilic ways of obliging various men and forcing them to do like what they want.
Such ways are like threatening him by exposing his secrets or making some scandals for him, or threatening him that they will kill his imprisoned father if he does not do like what they want and if he does not obey their commands ...etc.
he might have been obliged to do so and to take other steps to the advantage of the zionists; because the intelligence agencies have many devilic ways of obliging various men and forcing them to do like what they want.
Such ways are like threatening him by exposing his secrets or making some scandals for him, or threatening him that they will kill his imprisoned father if he does not do like what they want and if he does not obey their commands ...etc.
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Careful, I might be an "the intelligence agent and have many devilic ways".CDNBear and you will keep up as a CDNBear.
You have some right here, but not totally right.
I tell you how this is: the West will not let them achieve any important progress, but will hasten to destroy every factory and every economic powerful aspect [as they did to Iraq for example on the pretext to fight the tyrant]; this of course is stirred and encouraged by Zionists to achieve their common advantage.
Now it is the same they plan against Iran, maybe.
Anyhow, you and many other Muslims even, may not agree with this.
But I say: take the individual not the whole community as an example:
>> An individual may be powerful with wealth, position, health, happiness and every other aspect of prosperity -- this is not only mechanical outcome: it is the gift from God to this man.
All of a sudden, his happiness and prosperity may corrupt: an enemy may be set on him, to rub all his properties and wellfare.
This could happen, and it is not mere advantage and mechanical outcome of causes and reasons.
>> On other hand, a miserable man: all his circumstances are difficult and he suffers much, when all of a sudden he will get better: his disease is relieved, his poverty changes into richness, his fear turns to be safety and security ...etc.
Careful, I might be an "the intelligence agent and have many devilic ways".
You cannot unless God permits; and even your plight may turn upon your head by God's might as He said in the Quran 35: 43
اسْتِكْبَارًا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَمَكْرَ السَّيِّئِ وَلَا يَحِيقُ الْمَكْرُ السَّيِّئُ إِلَّا بِأَهْلِهِ فَهَلْ يَنظُرُونَ إِلَّا سُنَّتَ الْأَوَّلِينَ فَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّتِ اللَّهِ تَبْدِيلًا وَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّتِ اللَّهِ تَحْوِيلًا
The explanation:
(Behaving arrogantly in the land, and plotting the evil, but the evil plotting overwhelms only those who do it.
So do they expect anything but the way of [God's dealing with] the ancients?
And you will never find any changing the way of God['s dealing: the extermination of disbelievers],
and you will never find any postponement of the way of God['s dealing] to the following year.)
(Behaving arrogantly in the land, and plotting the evil, but the evil plotting overwhelms only those who do it.
So do they expect anything but the way of [God's dealing with] the ancients?
And you will never find any changing the way of God['s dealing: the extermination of disbelievers],
and you will never find any postponement of the way of God['s dealing] to the following year.)
So let me get this right, the son of a Hamas leader gets so fed up with the violence and corruption within Hamas, and the violence he sees that is justified by the religion he was brought up in, and he starts reading the Christian Bible - he likes the message of 'loving your enemies', and you blame his conversion on the 'zionists'?!? Oh wow - yuou are so delusional.
Here - read again (if you indeed did read it at all) from the article:
Mr Yousef said that his doubts about Islam and Hamas crystallised when he realised not all Hamas leaders were like his father, a moderate who he describes as "open-minded, very humble and honest".
Mr Yousef said that he was appalled by the brutality of the movement, including the suicide bombers seeking glory through jihad.
"Hamas, they are using civilians' lives, they are using children, they are using the suffering of people every day to achieve their goals. And this is what I hate," he said.
It was after a chance encounter nine years ago with a British missionary that Mr Yousef began exploring Christianity.
He found it "exciting", he said, and began secretly studying the Bible, struck by the central tenet "love your enemies".
Nevertheless he does not advocate the "collapse of Islam", but rather for people to acknowledge that after 1,400 years "it's not working any more".
He said: "It's not taking them anywhere. It's making them look ugly."
He hopes that Muslims will begin to question their religion and "fix it" by rejecting the parts that call for "killing others, cutting hands, cutting legs, torturing people and asking for destruction of entire civilisations".
He said that after he converted to Christianity, he decided he had to escape and "live my life away from violence because I couldn't coexist with that situation as a Christian."
"I was thinking, what is my responsibility now? To see people dying every day or to stand up and say, this is wrong, this is right and be strong about this? So I had to make this move."
You've rabbited on about the apostle this and the trinity that - you're talking about things - you're as bad as the people you condemn. He seemed to have become sick of the ideology and actually looked to the messages of both faiths - and he found yours lacking.And THAT'S why he converted.
What a bunch of gobbledeegook!
They got kicked out of Spain. You always say that allah will smite evil Christians and Jews - well has it crossed your mind that maybe Allah was not pleased with the Muslims in Spain, and was pleased with the Christians, so he decided that the Christians could have their land back? I Same for Israel - and the Crusades? Stop blaming your Islamic failures on other people - just accept the fact that Allah has become displeased with you and has been smiting you. Uh - maybe y'all should listen and examine your actions? Just a thought .....8O
The reason for the decline of Islam is simple.........advancement requires liberty.......freedom of thought and freedom of action are the prerequisites of progress in science, in technology, in social development.
The religion of submission can not provide those things.....or at least has not provided them for about 1,000 years.
Thus Islam remains an anachronism, while the world passes them by.......and rightfully so.
Islam is simply unfit.
The religion of submission can not provide those things.....or at least has not provided them for about 1,000 years.
Thus Islam remains an anachronism, while the world passes them by.......and rightfully so.
Islam is simply unfit.
roflmao
If it wasn't for the western societies advancing, the Islamic societies would still be in the 1500s. Fortunately, western societies have had an influence and Islamic societies such as in Lebanon are managing to advance. Even Iran is advancing a little bit by a little bit, and that's in spite of the clergy.
If science hadn't opened up a whole new world for people, even western societies would be in the dark ages because of religious influence.
I have one. What do you need it for? η
OK lets just blame it on the women for allowing themselves to be subjugated for close to 1500 years! Oh please! And yet, you may have something here.
After all, the Catholic Church began its decline during the reformation -
and women began to have more rights.
Having said that, it's very easy to criticize the 'idiotic' females that 'allow' Islam to continue.
For one =- it's what they know.
2 - they choose to run - where?
they're women - they have children that if they feel that strongly, they would be loathe to leave behind. where the hell are they supposed to go? No passports, Surrounded by other mysogynist countries - who would give them sanctuary?
And fight? Again. They are hostage to where they live, their families, a history of a culture that essentially hates women? The fate of their daughters ? Oh - it's SO easy for you to trot out the whole - it's th4 women's fault because they're stupid and they don't revolt.
You better believe that i would LOVE to see a woman whip out an SMG from her chador and wipe out a bunch of Taliban idiots. But do I want it> No. Because the moment she does it, she's dead, her family is dead, her daughters defiled.
I can't believe that you're blaming the whole 'non aggression towards Islam ' on women. Actually - I'm not.
So what should be done about the Haredi Jews who are nearly identical in ways as Taliban when it comes to the treatment of women? They only difference between haredi and Taliban is haredi won't kill with a gun but they'll sure stone you to death in a heartbeat.
Yup - the Haredi suck big time I really do despise fanatics - but the good thing is that if they DO try to stone some poor woman, at least in Israel there are laws that will convict them - and the laws of Israel protect women - like every legal system it's not perfect but for the most part it's good - sharia law is arbitrary.. .not to mention archaic and not inclined to change
If a women lays charges against her husband or divorces then they (other men) go into mormon mode and track them down and stone them or beat them.
If laws worked there wouldn't be segregated buses in J'lem and the incidence of violence would ease but that's not happening.
Oppression of any kind for anyone sucks ass and if we in the west want to truly see a better world for all we need to treat all oppressors equally and swiftly regardless of political pressure from wingnut groups like ADL.