Tar sands = filthy dirty bitumen "oil"
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What Those Who Killed the Tar Sands Report Don't Want You to Know
By: StingRay
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Fortunately, civilians can do what politicians can't. In the interests of accountability and transparency, I read through 300 pages of evidence and pulled out the sort of uncomfortable revelations that Ottawa doesn't want U.S. oil customers, industry investors or Canadian taxpayers to know.
The evidence, of course, all points to one embarrassing conclusion: Ottawa has managed its mandate in the tar sands as irresponsibly as the U.S. Mineral Management Services oversaw the safety of deep sea drilling in the Gulf.
By: StingRay
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Fortunately, civilians can do what politicians can't. In the interests of accountability and transparency, I read through 300 pages of evidence and pulled out the sort of uncomfortable revelations that Ottawa doesn't want U.S. oil customers, industry investors or Canadian taxpayers to know.
The evidence, of course, all points to one embarrassing conclusion: Ottawa has managed its mandate in the tar sands as irresponsibly as the U.S. Mineral Management Services oversaw the safety of deep sea drilling in the Gulf.
I listened to a story on that report last night. It's quite interesting how the whole report was trashed suddenly.
Time for the public to ask their politicians, of all parties, why they didn't publish this report, since we paid for it. Pols can't just destroy public information, public information that affects people's health, jobs or reduce corporate profits. These pols are dummies.
Michael Ignatieff might get some traction, showing he is a real leader, if he talked about something like this.
Your first link is so full off baseless assumptions that it's not really even worth reading past a few paragraphs to see it's full of mis in formation,the studies they are crying about not being available are all online and accessible to anyone with a computer and google search.
Too bad some rely on these folks for their info as it's extremely biased.Glad to see they at least acknowledge that the Athabasca does receive chemical inputs from naturally occuring bitumen deposits but even then they have to put the word "now" into the sentence to make you think it just started happening when it's been going on for millions of years.
I see birds and bugs on the tailings ponds every day,these are also the first ponds ever built and so far I havent seen any of them die.It is dirty but were cleaning them up faster then they are being built now.
this is (to my knowledge) the first documented record of the AB oilsands:
The first European to see the Athabasca oil sands was fur trader Peter Pond, who was lured to the area in 1778 by tales of the rich fur harvests there.
In 1788, Alexander MacKenzie wrote in his journal:
The bitumen is in a fluid state and when mixed with gum, the resinous substance collected from the spruce fir, it serves to gum the Indians' canoes. In its heated state it emits a smell like that of sea coal.”
Other explorers were equally fascinated by the oil sands, including map maker David Thompson and Arctic explorers Franklin, Richardson and Simpson.
The first government-sponsored geological study of the oil sands was initiated in 1875 and carried out by John Macoun. Robert Bell headed another government expedition into the area seven years later.
In 1889, the chronicler of the Laird expedition noted:
“That this region is stored with a substance of great economic value is beyond all doubt, and, when the hour of development comes, it will, I believe, prove to be one of the wonders of northern Canada.”
Be sure to watch the ending of the trailer where a man is able to light his water on fire
lol... because the oil industry is supposed to be able to make sure that the well you drill gives you water? You do realize that if you go punch a hole in the earth, the earth can't custom order what to flow out of it right? it truly does not know the difference between a man drilling for water and a man drilling for gas. lol.
the well was giving them water, fresh and clean. when the fracking went underway it contaminated water supplies.
Stop expecting people to understand. Oil and Gas are our saviours, and the big oil companies have not, and can do, no wrong in Alberta. Hail to the ExxonMobil! There is no such thing as a tailings pond full of sludge, it's all clean sand, and when flammable liquids come out of your formerly drinkable well, it's your own fault.
Yeah, for some in Alberta, Big Oil is Allah. Anyone who criticizes BO gets on their jihadist list.
fertilizer, pesticides and sewage treatment screw-up more potable water than fracing.... Gonna recognize those things or are they A-OK 'cause you contribute personally.
In fairness it IS possible to get cross contamination but that has more to do with bad cement jobs on casings than fraccing. The problem is people with no understanding of fluid mechanics see this and assume its an issue. This also isn't a blanket apology for the oil industry either, but rather pointing out that if you're going to criticize them for what they do wrong, then get it right. Personally, I know what a joke the corrosion control programs for many of the province's pipelines are and how "breaks" and the subsequent pollution/contamination could be prevented if companies really wanted to. I've seen how science gets undercut by "cost saving" and "alliances" with vendors. And how unwilling the provincial regulators are to do anything without an environmental catastrophe behind them to back up any action they take, which in turn only reinforces the willful ignorance in a lot (not all but a lot)of office towers in downtown Calgary.
It is difficult to watch the endless and mindless flow of traffic, especially in big cities, and think that big oil is completely to blame. I think that all the accusations aimed at big oil are justified but ultimately the blame lies with the consumer, especially the consumer that points his finger at big oil. I put in less than $20 of gas in my car every month. I walk and ride my bike most of the time, so I have very little sympathy for those who bemoan the actions of big oil while driving their car to the corner grocery store.
You got that right, Cliff. Some people drive to the store 3 or 4 times a day- no planning whatsoever. Not only do they complain about big oil, but they also complain about not having enough money. :lol::lol::lol:
And thus you might understand why I see some merit in beliefs in the afterlife- we don't have the brains or ability to get past the bottom three rungs in one lifetime. :lol::lol:
Anytime I try to point out the ways oil isn't always to blame, I get the 'oh you're from alberta and love oil' argument.
What I find funny is that among the people I know, my hubby and I are among the 'greenest'. We saw long ago the idiocy of driving the 3/4 ton truck to take the kids to kindergarten, the pointlessness of having to have that truck to pull a 5th wheel just so we could always have all our creature comforts with us. We've cut down our consumption as far as we can while still letting the kids be in after school activities and visit family up north, but, we don't 'go for sunday drives', wasting gas for no reason.
Why are we more energy conscious? Because my hubby DOES work in the patch. He's been doused in the frac fluid, he knows damn well it's not good stuff. He's seen blow outs and spills. And he recognizes that the industry IS consumer driven... people scream very loudly when there's no fuel at the pumps, or no gas flowing to their houses that they keep heated to 23 degrees with a window left open for fresh air.
What we also seem aware of though, that so many people miss, is that they didn't go find a bunch of soulless trolls to work in the industry. There are environmentally conscious men like my husband who, no, don't like to just **** on mother nature. They do try to prevent these issues.