Alright,...
First off: if you read my post you would know the answer to that;
secondly: you didn't phrase your post in the form of a question.
This will help
9/11, an inside job?
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Alright,...
First off: if you read my post you would know the answer to that;
secondly: you didn't phrase your post in the form of a question.
This will help
Gee whiz...I remember using question marks.
I read your post.
Explain this:
So, how is it false?
OMG, Bear.......you are hilarious, thanks for the laugh! I needed one after Bob's sobering and thought provoking piece. Good one. :smile:
How odd.
I explained the reasoning in my first post.
I used an argument scheme created by David Hume. To refute it will require more than just reading my posts.
I really (and honestly) don't think you're up to it Avro.
I don't think your mind is feeble!?!
I used an argument scheme by David Hume!!!
WTF?
Anyway, as I said, there is no way to know what really happened. I just know the official story isn't what happened.
According to Wiki a truther thinks the government was involved.
I don't think anything except the official story is inductively flawed, that is, couldn't be true.
Why is the official story flawed?
The only other story I have heard is one put forth by truthers.
What's yours.
Your posts explicitly question the truth of the official accounting of the events that lead up to the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
That is the only characteristic which applies to the entire 9/11 truth movement.
I already posted it. I don't have time to write it out again. Please read it it if your actually interested in what I think. I wouldn't mind having a real conversation about it with you.
I never knew 911 Truthers had anything to do with Area 51 or JFK.
Why did family of firefighters and police start the 911 Truth movement?
Why did family of firefighters and police start the 911 Truth movement?
Because many of the same people, believe all three conspiracies.
I thought was started by a group of celebs, ex politico's, that helped bring that loosely connected group together?
Do they really or is that conjecture? Go to 9/11 Truth.org founded by the families of firefigters and cops and post on their site you think the families of firefighters who died on 9-11 and cops are Area 51 believers and JFK believers.
How well would that go over?
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Why? Human psychology? In the Kübler-Ross model, denial is the first of five stages of grief people will go through when told of a terminal disease, or other catastrophic loss. Some will never make it to acceptance.
Of course that is just one model for grief, the human condition is rarely modeled so simply. It's notable nonetheless that many who experience grief, will respond with denial.
Do you realize how many people would have to be paid off to keep quiet for 10 years? I don't think any of the people who think it was an inside job realize that. And out of everyone who would have to be paid off, the chances that one person out of the hundreds of thousands would come forward is huge. You're talking paying off pilots, flight attendants, air traffic controllers, police officers, fire fighters, politicians, which include but are not limited to Congressman, Senators, Governors, Mayors, every single person in the Presidential Administration, including everyone down to the people in the kitchen cooking food.
As for the steel theory. No steel does not melt at the temperature that jet fuel burns, however...as any metal, it does lose most of its strength at that temperature. Put a steel fire poker in a camp fire and after ten minutes it becomes very weak, to the point that you can bend it any way you want. Now imagine that, but with tons of weight on top of it. Obviously it's going to buckle.
i respect Canadians so much for helping us on that day, but I can't respect anyone; Canadian, American, or anyone else that thinks it was murder by the U.S. Government. I lost two family members and a close family friend on 9/11 and you people make me sick. I don't understand why it can't be dismissed as a terror attack?!
As for the steel theory. No steel does not melt at the temperature that jet fuel burns, however...as any metal, it does lose most of its strength at that temperature. Put a steel fire poker in a camp fire and after ten minutes it becomes very weak, to the point that you can bend it any way you want. Now imagine that, but with tons of weight on top of it. Obviously it's going to buckle.
i respect Canadians so much for helping us on that day, but I can't respect anyone; Canadian, American, or anyone else that thinks it was murder by the U.S. Government. I lost two family members and a close family friend on 9/11 and you people make me sick. I don't understand why it can't be dismissed as a terror attack?!
Debunking 9'11 website pretty well covers every argument any truther can put forward and they do it with facts.These topics allways keep going and going like the energizer bunny,some folks just cant face reality I guess.
One thing I have noticed though when you do refute a truthers conspiracy with facts is they allways jump to a new conspiracy and ignore the last one,only to regurgitate it after going through every single conspiracy on truth.org and copying and pasting entire pages.
I'll say one thing about truthers,they are consistent and very predictable,I can allmost bet money and win on which so called truth will be posted next.
On some forums I have been on they lump all the foiler topics into one huge topic so it doesnt have to keep getting reposted every 2 days,arguing facts with a truther though is pretty well a waste of time.
I remember one day putting 2 d10 caterpillar dozers side by side to push a huge rock in the mine I was working at the time,the friction created by the 2 blades rubbing together literally had the hardened steel dripping off them like molten slag from a cutting torch.
On to your post though it also makes me sick that some people would use the death of innocent people to further their hate agenda against the government of the day,you should just ignore these chaps as they will use any method to further said agenda and nothing proactive is ever accomplished by replying.
They are the lowest of the low in my eyes.
One thing I have noticed though when you do refute a truthers conspiracy with facts is they allways jump to a new conspiracy and ignore the last one,only to regurgitate it after going through every single conspiracy on truth.org and copying and pasting entire pages.
I'll say one thing about truthers,they are consistent and very predictable,I can allmost bet money and win on which so called truth will be posted next.
On some forums I have been on they lump all the foiler topics into one huge topic so it doesnt have to keep getting reposted every 2 days,arguing facts with a truther though is pretty well a waste of time.
I remember one day putting 2 d10 caterpillar dozers side by side to push a huge rock in the mine I was working at the time,the friction created by the 2 blades rubbing together literally had the hardened steel dripping off them like molten slag from a cutting torch.
On to your post though it also makes me sick that some people would use the death of innocent people to further their hate agenda against the government of the day,you should just ignore these chaps as they will use any method to further said agenda and nothing proactive is ever accomplished by replying.
They are the lowest of the low in my eyes.
Ever heard of disclosure to get closure? Have those family members on 911truth.org been given the same disclosure as other families from other terrorist attacks? Would you say they were given the same amount of disclosure as the familes of the Air India incident? How about Lockerbie?
Do the family members of victimes deserve the same respect and inclusion as those in the past and undoubtedly again in the future?
If there is nothing to hide then why not give disclosure and answer their questions respectfully and truthfully?
The whole pile are all ****ed in the noggin mental cases?
Who is vouching for you?
You don't havfe to pay anybody off. You promote some yutz to a position that that pays beyond anything they seen before, let them put themselves into debt with new mortgages, cars, boats, holidays and the likes and they'll follow any story you toss at them or they can open their yap and lose it all.
What would you do?
The site created by the families of victims only contains verifiable facts. If it's not verifiable, it's not on there.
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- Some works about 9/11 forward ungrounded claims based on misinterpretations, distortions or even fabricated evidence. Others reveal racist or extremist biases. We avoid both types of distraction by focusing on the most promising lines of inquiry and bodies of evidence; those that have stood up to the scrutiny of peer review, have been subjected to expert analysis, and as a result are winning in the court of public opinion.
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