Some Countries have rules on what you can and cannot name your baby

Chiliagon

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So I just watched a video, quite interesting you could say...

Some countries have restrictions on what you can name your baby.

here's Germany's rules

- Must be able to tell Gender by first name
- Name must not negatively affect Child's well being
- No Last names, names of objects or Products as First names.


Sweden

cannot name your kid

Metallica, Superman, Veranda, Ikea, and Elvis.

or

Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116″

In Japan, one given name and one surname are chosen for babies, except for the imperial family, who only receive given names. Except for a few examples, it is obvious which are the given names and which are the surnames, regardless of in what order the names have been given. There are a couple thousand “name kanji” and “commonly used characters” for use in naming babies, and only these official kanji may be used in babies’ given names. The purpose of this is to make sure that all names can be easily read and written by the Japanese. The Japanese also restrict names that might be deemed inappropriate.

the name Akuma which means Devil is not allowed

Denmark’s very strict Law on Personal Names is in place to protect children from having odd names that suit their parents’ fancy. To do this, parents can choose from a list of only 7,000 pre-approved names, some for girls, some for boys. If you want to name your child something that isn’t on the list, you have to get special permission from your local church, and the name is then reviewed by governmental officials. Creative spellings of more common names are often rejected. The law states that girls and boys must have names that indicate their gender, you can’t use a last name as a first name, and unusual names may be rejected. Of the approximately 1,100 names that are reviewed each year, 15-20% of the names are rejected. There are also laws in place to protect rare Danish last names.
Rejected names: Anus, Pluto, and Monkey.


The Iceland Naming Committee, formed in 1991, is the group that decides whether a new given name will be acceptable. If parents want to name their child something that is not included on the National Register of Persons, they can apply for approval and pay a fee. A name has to pass a few tests to be approved. It must only contain letters in the Icelandic alphabet, and must fit grammatically with the language. Other considerations include whether it will embarrass the child in the future and how well aligned it is with Icelandic traditions. It must have a genitive ending or have been previously adopted. Also, names should be gender specific, and no one can have more than three personal names.
Surnames in Iceland usually follow an interesting tradition. They are not family names, but are rather patronymic, or occasionally matronymic, with part of a person’s last name including their father’s name. If a father’s name is Eric, then his son’s surname would be Ericsson (or Eric’s son), and his daughter’s surname would be Ericsdóttir (or Eric’s daughter). [note: According to one of our Icelandic _flossers, since 'C' is not an Icelandic letter, the correct spelling is 'Eiríkur' and his offspring would be Eiríksson/Eiríksdóttir, e.g. Leifur Eiríksson] Occasionally, there are true family names in Iceland, that are passed down to each generation. But they are usually in families originally from other countries, or in families where a family name was adopted at one point.

New Zealand’s Births, Deaths, and Marriages Registration Act of 1995 doesn’t allow people to name their children anything that “might cause offence to a reasonable person; or [...] is unreasonably long; or without adequate justification, [...] is, includes, or resembles, an official title or rank.” Officials at the registrar of births have successfully talked parents out of some more embarrassing names.
Rejected names: Stallion, Yeah Detroit, Fish and Chips, Twisty Poi, Keenan Got Lucy, Sex Fruit, Satan, and Adolf Hitler

Most new babies in China are now basically required to be named based on the ability of computer scanners to read those names on national identification cards. The government recommends giving children names that are easily readable, and encourages Simplified characters over Traditional Chinese ones. Parents can technically choose the given name, but numbers and non-Chinese symbols and characters are not allowed. Also, now, Chinese characters that can not be represented on the computer are not allowed. There are over 70,000 Chinese characters, but only about 13,000 can be represented on the computer. Because this requirement is a new one, some citizens are having their name misrepresented, and some have to change their names to be accurately shown on the identification cards.
Rejected names: “@”: Wang “At” was rejected as a baby name. The parents felt that the @ symbol had the right meaning for them. @ in Chinese is pronounced “ai-ta” which is very similar to a phrase that means “love him.”


If you read this post earlier this morning, we said that first names, but not middle names, were governed by Norwegian law. Well, thanks to a Norwegian _flosser Solvi, who was kind enough to send over a Web site (written in Norwegian, of course), we now know that these laws were changed in 2002. Apparently, there used to be an official government list of all allowed names. Last names could not be used as first names, and foreign names that were religious in nature, such as Jesús, or that were insulting would not make the cut. Last names also used to adhere to certain rules. If you wanted to change your last name, you would have to show that you were very close to someone else with that last name, such as when you take your spouse’s last name or your mother’s maiden name. Last names that were shared by 500 or fewer people were also protected. It seems that one would have to get the permission of all of the people with that last name if one wanted to adopt the name. Talk about oy to the vey!
Previously rejected names: “Gesher” was rejected as a boy’s first name to the point where the child’s mother was jailed for refusing to pay the $420 fine.
 

Bar Sinister

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Quebec does the same thing using about the same guidelines as Germany. As a teacher I have seen many children saddled with cripplingly bad names. I am all in favour of regulating names. Stupid parents should not be allowed to curse their children with the burden of an inappropriate or just plain stupid name.
 

YukonJack

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It should be forbidden to condemn a son for a life time of "Junior", by giving the poor boy the same neme as his conceited, egotistical and vainglorious father.
 

VanIsle

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Quebec does the same thing using about the same guidelines as Germany. As a teacher I have seen many children saddled with cripplingly bad names. I am all in favour of regulating names. Stupid parents should not be allowed to curse their children with the burden of an inappropriate or just plain stupid name.
I so agree with you and I'll add to that by saying that parents should have to know how to spell the name they choose and should have to use the normally used spelling. People play with the spelling and their children spend the rest of their lives explaining the spelling of their name so someone gets it right!
I did have to laugh at the one from germany stating that you must be able to recognize gender by the first name. My kids had a german student for a year. In Canada, if you hear the name "Flo" you are most likely to assoc. it with the name Florence (female name). His name was Flo. His full name however was Florian. I never called him "Flo" as it just didn't seem to fit.

There are too many girls names that end in "esha" and other damn goofy adjectives and adverbs.
There are too many girls named Mercedes, Taylor, or Madison. Your daughter has one of the most beautiful names I've ever heard.
 

TenPenny

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Alex, Leslie, Charlie, Sam, Joe, etc etc are all common names for both genders.

And that rule leaves out the transgendered people, so it would be discriminatory anyway.
And in Canada, we have many cultures, people from English and French backgrounds don't necessarily recognize the gender of other names, but that shouldn't mean they're not permitted.
 

Bar Sinister

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Regarding stupid spelling; I've come across a number of doozies in that category as well. A great deal of it is caused by parents hearing a name and not having the faintest idea how it is spelled, but the most common reason for bizarre spelling in the desire to give a child a unique name. Hence even a simple name like "John" may end up being spelled "Jhon," "Jonn," "Johnn," or even "Gjon."

I got a kick out of the story told by Chelsea Handler about a parent who wanted her to make out an autograph to her son Bailey. She did as she was asked only to be told by the parent that she had misspelled the name. Apparently the mother spelled it "Baighley." Miss Handler's reply was that she had not spelled the name wrong, the mother had spelled the name wrong. She refused to change the autograph.

I really feel sorry for children with strange or bizarrely spelled names. They spend all of their lives correcting people on the pronunciation or the spelling of their name; all because they had stupid parents.
 

VanIsle

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I'm glad I'm not alone! I have never heard the story by Chelsea Handler but I think it's great. More people should be so brave.
 

Curiosity

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Names are often an early source of embarrassment for children

If the parents assign names which are odd their children may be teased early on - which is not a good start in life for any kid. Unusual spelling or a "nod" to an ancient relative named for instance "Lancelot"....can you imagine packing that around with you for the first six years of school?

First names should be easy and "family traditions" can be accommodated in the second name which is rarely known.

The worst instance is a name which can be hijacked into something really cruel.
 

TenPenny

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I really feel sorry for children with strange or bizarrely spelled names. They spend all of their lives correcting people on the pronunciation or the spelling of their name; all because they had stupid parents.

I can understand your point; my youngest daughter's name is unusual, since it is Chinese, and not necessarily easy to pronounce the first time you see it. But people can figure it out; even the automated messages from the bank do a pretty good approximation. But hey, if you're a school teacher, and you can't manage to remember it after 6 or 8 weeks of saying it every day, then you should go find a new job. And if you think I'm a stupid parent for giving her a name that fits her heritage, too bad.

What I think is silly is families where every kid has the same initials; I've know families where the kids were named Shawn, Steven, Susan, Sally, and Sidney. I think that's pretty silly, how do you label your kids stuff? You can't put their initials on it!
 

Chiliagon

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I must say, some people need to be slapped and woken up when they come up with some of these ridiculous spellings for names. trying to be unique is one thing, but ruining your childs life forever by giving him some insane, crazy spelling of a name just so he can be original is lame and he'll pay for it.
 

VanIsle

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Names are often an early source of embarrassment for children

If the parents assign names which are odd their children may be teased early on - which is not a good start in life for any kid. Unusual spelling or a "nod" to an ancient relative named for instance "Lancelot"....can you imagine packing that around with you for the first six years of school?

First names should be easy and "family traditions" can be accommodated in the second name which is rarely known.

The worst instance is a name which can be hijacked into something really cruel.
While it's true that family traditions can be accomodated in the use of second names, you can still run into some kind of problems. We could not name our son his first name (which as I said earlier is repeated over and over in the family) without using my Dad's first name as his middle name. He actually just said the other day that growing up he was not fond of his middle name but has grown used to it and doesn't mind it. It's not awful, it's just not common. I have a nephew who has three names. His Mom didn't want to give him either of his grandfathers names as a first name, mostly due to hard feeling (or possible hard feelings) by either grandfather as to which of them got the "honoured" position of first name. He was named Kenneth Herbert Henry or Kenneth Henry Herbert, depending on which city they were visiting. 8O
 

Bar Sinister

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I can understand your point; my youngest daughter's name is unusual, since it is Chinese, and not necessarily easy to pronounce the first time you see it. But people can figure it out; even the automated messages from the bank do a pretty good approximation. But hey, if you're a school teacher, and you can't manage to remember it after 6 or 8 weeks of saying it every day, then you should go find a new job. And if you think I'm a stupid parent for giving her a name that fits her heritage, too bad.

What I think is silly is families where every kid has the same initials; I've know families where the kids were named Shawn, Steven, Susan, Sally, and Sidney. I think that's pretty silly, how do you label your kids stuff? You can't put their initials on it!

I have no problem with ethnic names and as a teacher I had no problem remembering the names of students, especially those that were unusual. I always began the first class with a caution which was "I am going to call the roll. Please correct me if I mispronounce your name or you prefer an alternative to the name listed."

What I had a problem with was children whose names were so embarrassing or hard to pronounce the students themselves would not use them, but preferred nicknames. Some students even had names that they badly mispronounced, simply because the parents had no idea how to pronounce the names in the first place. A parent that saddles a child with a name that is hard to pronounce or is spelled in a bizarre manner has not done their child any favours. At the very least they are going to spend the rest of their lives constantly correcting others as to how to spell or pronounce their names.

Just for the heck of it. I have included a couple of sites listing unusual names.

Name Nerds! categories
50 craziest celebrity baby names - Times Online
 

AnnaG

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"Some Countries have rules on what you can and cannot name your baby"

Dumb. Nannyism is what it is.

I think as long as people use half an ounce of sense, they should be able to name their kids anything they like. If it's evident that the kid might come to some harm or be stigmatised by it, don't do it.
As far as gender bias goes, there are loads of names that are bi-gendered. I had a college friend named Sue. He was Korean, I think. Micki, Frankie, Sammy, etc.

I think Lexus is a pretty name. It's a car and a girls' name. Heather? It's a plant, as are Rose and a few others.
 

Bar Sinister

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I think as long as people use half an ounce of sense, they should be able to name their kids anything they like.

You hit the nail right on the head there. Sadly a great many people do not have any sense. And so you get bizarre names like "Apple," from Glennis Paltrow. I like Jay Leno's comment on Paltrow's name for her child. He said: "She named her baby Apple and is planning to have a second child so that she can have a Pear."

One of the simplest a best things parents can do for their children is to give them a decent name. Unfortunately some people are so dysfunctional they cannot even do that.
 

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Our family surname (Jerkhinofv) comes from a long line of Russian aristocracy, and I'm very proud of it.

But I wish they hadn't named me "Ima".

go figure parents eh.

Our son's name is "Betcher"..............after Betcher, the defender of the gate. Or something.

He seems to hate us for some reason.

:bigsmurf:,,,,,,,,,,,kids, eh!