So you're saying it's impossible? I think so too, but not for the same reason, although I agree you have a point.
What to do about global warming
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Actually, the only question I found was this; "So how have all those efforts to cut emissions worked so far, what are the actual results of all those $billions spent on "saving the planet"?"
That is an easy question to answer. Not enough people are interested in the well-being of the planet. Too many people think it is too big an issue for them to have an effect on so they don't make an effort. Most companies are only interested if it doesn't cut into their profits. Some people just don't care to begin with. Most entities can't see very far beyond their noses. And so on.
So, so far the efforts we've been using don't work.
How to quit polluting is to get people interested in being clean, and when enough people are interested, then companies, gov'ts, etc. will be pressured into smartening up.
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Not quite. The purpose of this thread was to show what the real results of fighting climate change are, and also to give alarmists such as yourself a chance to demonstrate how emissions could actually be cut, even though I'm fairly certain no-one will be able to. I would be very impressed if someone could. Nothing to do with feeding my ego.
I would be very happy if others would discuss solutions.
I've already stated my opinion as being the same Lomborgs.
No you won't. You'll always come up with some excuse to dodge the question.
Hubby and I already have. Our environmental impact is a fraction of what it used to be.
If you'd read just a little farther you would have seen the following:
Feel free to suggest any method by which governments, corporations, organizations and individuals can achieve that goal.
referring to the previously mentioned goal of reducing emissions by 80%
I'll assume that by "quit polluting" you mean reduce CO2 emissions by 80% world wide.
Try by doing what?
Yes I've heard that. But the larger questions still is, how do we reduce emissions by 80% worldwide? It's been said that for Canada it would be equivalent to eliminating all transportation, agriculture, manufacturing and industry. People say use solar panels. Sure, no emissions when they produce energy, but the manufacture of them uses more energy than they'll ever produce by their expected fail date. It's not just how much you put out personally, it's also how much is put out making and delivering those products to you.
No, the purpose was to find different solutions differing form what has already been suggested or implemented, what you said about waste was a statement, not a question.
I know you would, it will feed your ego, the real purpose of this thread.
That is not a solution, that is statement about clean water.
Pot meet kettle.
I merely ask for your own input on the matter as far as solutions go in a hypothetical sense. If you can't, I see no reason to offer anything myself.
Perhaps the thread title should have read:
Hand in your solutions to AGW so I can rip them apart.
So have I Anna, we had an audit done on both our home and cottage several years ago have since have made many changes.
It has actually saved us money.8O
It may be impossible or not right now but if we keep working on the solution, I bet we can do it. Not even giving it a try is just stupid and myopic.
Really? How would one prove that? Do you investigate all the companies that produce them?
Oh gee, that never occurred to us. :roll:
By the way, Les and I made a lot of parts for our own systems out of recyclables and stuff. We realized a long long time ago we didn't have to buy everything new.
If the goal is reducing personal emission by 80% and not to 80% then I think it's an impossible goal.
Years ago I got a high efficiency furnace, not to save energy but because the old one was kaput...The old one had tested 75% efficient...the new one 96% efficient which is extremely good....over all 20% less natural gas used...
We also use our vehicle about half as much as the neighbours because we enjoy walking to go shopping and only use the vehicle for heavy articles.
Even if I quit eating beans I don't think we could reduce emissions by 80%..
If you really really really want to slow global warming ban all consumer advertisements and anything trendy.
Seriously. I'm tired of useless **** and to prove my point the Regina garbage dump is tall enough that you can see Moosejaw on a clear day from up top. (i'm not kidding)
I don't think it is impossible but the time frame is.
Humans have conquered many frontiers this is merely a new one.
How about banning toys in happy meals.
I have kids, we never get those disposable made in China toys with oil based plastic and small batteries inside.
The way we consume and dispose is sickening when you take a close look at it.
Ever bring something home and have more packaging than the product you bought?:roll:
All the time. They say it is to make it too big to easily shoplift but that BS doesn't fly. It makes the product name bigger and easier to read and buy not shoplift.
I wouldn't doubt it for a second. There's probably some really good treasure in that heap. It wouldn't be chests of gold and jewels, but probably things of good use otherwise. A friend has had 3 of his last lawnmowers from dumps. One of them just needed new gas lines in it. He also got a weed whacker from the dump and all that was wrong with it was a bent or broken handle.