Another Liberal Scandal - Quebec -a la carte - and the menu is corruption.

CDNBear

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Maybe its just me, but why is it most of this crap seems to happen in Quebec?
This could be just a simple correlation between the amount of Quebecois politicians in play.

We know the graft and pork barrel politics aren't limited to that province, but it seems most of the large scale stuff originates or takes place there. When you go by population (more people = more crooks), one would think more crap would happen in Ontario...
So you would think. Maybe it has something to do with the mentality of "entitled entitlements". The Quebecois seem to think they are entitled to much more then the RoC. (I know I'll take flack for that, but that's how I see it.) If this is true, then it would be reasonable to assume that that mentality permeates its politicians as well. Although I think it's safe to say that most politicians feel they're more entitled then others, lol.

Are you seriously gloating about this, Goober? You really think that if Québec gets PQ government next time, it will be a good thing? Anything to give to the Liberals in the neck, eh? According to you, even PQ government seems preferable to Liberals.

Well, that is cutting of one’s own nose to spite someone else. What you seem to be saying is that you would much rather have a separatist government in Québec rather than a federalist government, if that federalist government is a liberal government.
I don't think he's saying that at all. I think this is a spurious attempt on your part to put words in his mouth, so you can attack his politics and not the topic of his post.

Anyway, there is a huge scandal with corruption and patronage going on in Ottawa at present. Did you post a thread on that? Or does your wrath, anger only extend to Liberal corruption?
This only supports my opinion of your attempt to deviate from the topic.

That "huge" scandal in Ottawa, is already being investigated, at the PM's behest. It has also already been posted in the forum, if you care to take your issues with it there, by all means, feel free to stay on topic and address the post correctly and within the scope of the actual post, not your imagined version please...

Here's a link to the "scandal" in Ottawa thread...

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/91473-how-handle-corruption-allegations.html

Anyway, currently it seems to be only allegation, I prefer to wait to see what comes out of it.
How fair of you. If only you were so fair as to not put words in Goober mouth, so to speak, or address the topic at hand without attempting to deviate the topic, so as to make it about Goobers politics.
 

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...probably another "accepted and effective way of getting one's point across."
With all due respect LW. I could comment on this in an entirely different way, and although I agree with the sentiment of your post and trust me, I do. It is to our collective benefit, to avoid entertaining the megalomaniacal aspirations, of certain people here. If we simply and politely hold them to the standards, they and their cadre set. Then we can not be singled out collectively or individually, for admonishment.

Simply put, lets just stick to the topic and address each post for what it is, individually.
 
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Are you seriously gloating about this, Goober? You really think that if Québec gets PQ government next time, it will be a good thing? Anything to give to the Liberals in the neck, eh? According to you, even PQ government seems preferable to Liberals.

Well, that is cutting of one’s own nose to spite someone else. What you seem to be saying is that you would much rather have a separatist government in Québec rather than a federalist government, if that federalist government is a liberal government.

Anyway, there is a huge scandal with corruption and patronage going on in Ottawa at present. Did you post a thread on that? Or does your wrath, anger only extend to Liberal corruption?

Anyway, currently it seems to be only allegation, I prefer to wait to see what comes out of it.


SJP

Again you are mistaken - Refer back to the Montreal scandal regarding the construction industry and patronage - read as inflated tenders - accepted by the City - approx cost difference averages 30% to build in Quebec - Charest was completely against an Inquiry - It appears that we may have the reasoning behind it.

Also recall that in the 70 a Royal Commission investigated the Construction Industry due to corruption - Now we have them picking Judges - that is what I would call a HUGE - SCANDAL - Yet you look for cover regarding the Guergis affair - I called for her to resign or be fired to be exact quite some time ago.

As to the PQ being in Govt - Charest poll numbers are way down - increased taxes - etc along with this may seal his fate. Has been in power for quite some time - Combine all that with this latest allegation -

While I failed Rocket Science Class even I can figure this one out. Can you???

As the the PQ - Their leader is severely lacking in support outside of the hardline separatists -

If Quebec voted overwhelmingly to separate - Do you think that the RoC would abide by the present borders of Quebec - only if they wanted riots in the streets - Canadians would demand the Quebec leave with what land and borders they arrived with and that is what would happen - It would not be pleasant and possibly not peaceful either. They came as visitors and think that by staying for so long the can leave with the furniture and silverware.

Last - What huge Patronage scandal do you refer to - Nothing, absolutely nothing has been published outside of rumour and innuendo - Is that part of your core belief system - If it involves Conservatives it must be HUGE - It must be Massive - It must be a direct threat to Canada- Really - And you have No Party Affiliation - Now who believes that - Not I - and if you were honest you would correct it.
 

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Are you seriously gloating about this, Goober? You really think that if Québec gets PQ government next time, it will be a good thing? Anything to give to the Liberals in the neck, eh? According to you, even PQ government seems preferable to Liberals.

Well, that is cutting of one’s own nose to spite someone else. What you seem to be saying is that you would much rather have a separatist government in Québec rather than a federalist government, if that federalist government is a liberal government.

Anyway, there is a huge scandal with corruption and patronage going on in Ottawa at present. Did you post a thread on that? Or does your wrath, anger only extend to Liberal corruption?

Anyway, currently it seems to be only allegation, I prefer to wait to see what comes out of it.

How is he gloating? Where did he say he prefers the PQ to a federalist gov't in Quebec? You seem to be projecting opinions onto others to suit your own political biases (again).

And if you want to discuss the patronage invesitigation in Ottawa, please go to the thread discussing that subject or create another one yourself.
 

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I think a PQ government vs a Harper government might be a good thing. There is one tactic that has never been tried on Quebec separatists and that is liberal (note the lower case 'L') use of the word NO.
 

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I think a PQ government vs a Harper government might be a good thing. There is one tactic that has never been tried on Quebec separatists and that is liberal (note the lower case 'L') use of the word NO.
An idea whose time has rightly come!
 

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I think a PQ government vs a Harper government might be a good thing. There is one tactic that has never been tried on Quebec separatists and that is liberal (note the lower case 'L') use of the word NO.

You are actually suggesting a hardlined ''NO'' approach to Quebec is good thing while the PQ is in power?

Are you like, desperate for another referendum?
 

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You are actually suggesting a hardlined ''NO'' approach to Quebec is good thing while the PQ is in power?

Are you like, desperate for another referendum?
I am. The outcome will be the same.

I fully believe there are more sensible people like you in Quebec. Then there are Quebecuois.
 

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It would be nice if people would get it through their heads that Quebec isn't going anywhere- especially if they were told to make sure they drop off their portion of the National Debt in Ottawa before they leave. And one other thing - if they continue to pass Canadian currency they will be charged with uttering counterfeit money.
 

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It would be nice if people would get it through their heads that Quebec isn't going anywhere- especially if they were told to make sure they drop off their portion of the National Debt in Ottawa before they leave. And one other thing - if they continue to pass Canadian currency they will be charged with uttering counterfeit money.
Never say never JLM. It is a very real posibilty that Quebec could be swayed to vote and achieve the 50% + 1, they need to separate.

I prefer to think not, but I wouldn't say never.

Their currency is a minor matter. Once the Natives in the North reclaim Rupert's Land, and the Mohawk's reclaim their territorial land, as described in Treaty by the French. There won't be much of a Quebec left. They will be unable to be self sufficient and will rely on resources supplied from outside Quebec.
 
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You are actually suggesting a hardlined ''NO'' approach to Quebec is good thing while the PQ is in power?

Are you like, desperate for another referendum?
Trudeau used it - Every one that has gone with a handful of my money to Quebec ends up eventually with one hand.
 

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You are actually suggesting a hardlined ''NO'' approach to Quebec is good thing while the PQ is in power?

Are you like, desperate for another referendum?

I'm talking a REAL hardline NO. No sovereignty association. No shared currency. No Canadian passport. Separatists have milked it long enough. It's time to call the bluff.
 
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You know I'm clean and sober, but I can watch you enjoy a tall cold one, so long as you don't laugh at my gingerale, lol.

Well in that case ginger ale it will be for both of us. The whole farce will be enough to get us laughing out loud anyway.