Sixth Annual Israeli Apartheid Week

Are all human being entitled to fundamental human rights?

  • Yes, all people are entitled to food, clothing, shelter, medicine...

    Votes: 11 64.7%
  • No, only some people are entitled to human rights.

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Palestinians don't qualify as human beings.

    Votes: 5 29.4%

  • Total voters
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Well there certainly is no deficiency in your licking Israelis Bear. Seldom is the life of a lap dog so public an affair as your humiliating arse kissing of TPTB in Ziolandia. Don't feel too bad you're not the first to betray his nation for thirty pieces.
 

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Well there certainly is no deficiency in your licking Israelis Bear. Seldom is the life of a lap dog so public an affair as your humiliating arse kissing of TPTB in Ziolandia. Don't feel too bad you're not the first to betray his nation for thirty pieces.
You know what beav, yer right, I could lick this Israeli, all week long, I'ld roll over, play dead and be her lap dog till the cows came home....





 
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What? I'm watching the video, but I see historical errors, I see footage being described as Israeli Armed Forces, but the uniform and weaponry is that of the the Jordanian Army. If that isn't propaganda I don't know what is Mhz.
Is that the ones being shown at about 21:50, is the audio also wrong? The uniforms are not unlike the ones in this pic.



I just mentioned one, and I'm well past the 4minute mark. Here's another, how about the narration describing the Israeli Haganah invading Palestine in 48, while the video shows Britich marked Tanks in the Jordanian Armoured Corp, rolling down streets.
The tank at 21:54? the one at about 24:30 is said to represent a Jordanian one.

That's outright propaganda. It leads people like you that don't know any better, to believe things that just aren't real.
The audio is carrying the message, the 3 soldiers stabbing the ground at the 25:30 mark was not footage from the actual battle, it was a clip from a training film. lol

Like the fact that Israle didn't have a single tank in 48, and certainly not a British marked Sherman, flanked by Jordanian Forces.
The one at 21:54?

I wonder why YouTube pulled it?
Somebody probably has it, doesn't the wayback machine keep a copy? It dosesn't show any great details, just enough to plot who moved where.

Great, and I'll wait and see what the ICC does. If they dismiss it, there's obviously a reason why.
Winning a decision in an Israeli Court can't even get them to comply. lol

And this is why you will never rise above what you are. You have sifted through countless hour of pure drivel, and exposed your mind to such supercilious ideologies, that you can't tell fact from fiction anymore, I think that's sad.
I didn't spend that much time with you. lol

But I'll tell you what I do find funny, the fact that all you really removed, was your own quotes...:lol:
There wasn't anything in your words, worth responding to.

Obviously not, but then again, if you knew history, you would know that the bulk of the children were taken by force, not turned over.
That always happens in a time of peace, at least the Palestinians know that.

There's no proof of that, that's pure conjecture.
How can I reason with someone that is so obviously challenged by reality...I feel sad for you and anyone you may infect with your devient ideological contagion.

Fact is Israel is enlarging it's borders almost daily and the PM just recently said Jerusalem will belong to Israel alone, that was a Rothschild dream that was not part of UN181. Face it they lie the same as our forefathers did while making up all the various treaties, they mean nothing nor are they honored. They are followed as closely as UN 181 was followed.
 

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Is that the ones being shown at about 21:50, is the audio also wrong? The uniforms are not unlike the ones in this pic.
Pic ain't working.




The tank at 21:54? the one at about 24:30 is said to represent a Jordanian one.
Yep, and yes it is. See how the narration at 21:54 leads people to believe that's the Israeli's, when in fact, 1, the Israeli's didn't have Sherman's in 48. But the Jordanians had British surplus ones. 2, the Soldiers marching through the streets were Jordanian, as seen in 24:30. They are the same uniform.

The audio is carrying the message, the 3 soldiers stabbing the ground at the 25:30 mark was not footage from the actual battle, it was a clip from a training film. lol
Which was actually accurately attributed to the friendly Arabs protecting Palestine.


The one at 21:54?
Yes.


Winning a decision in an Israeli Court can't even get them to comply. lol
ICC=International Criminal Court.

I didn't spend that much time with you. lol
I know, had you spent more time with me, you wouldn't be in the mess you're in.

There wasn't anything in your words, worth responding to.
:lol:, but you responded to everything but your own...:lol:

Fact is Israel is enlarging it's borders almost daily and the PM just recently said Jerusalem will belong to Israel alone, that was a Rothschild dream that was not part of UN181. Face it they lie the same as our forefathers did while making up all the various treaties, they mean nothing nor are they honored. They are followed as closely as UN 181 was followed.
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Body counts dictate otherwise, another fact lost on you.
So a million civilian causalities between two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is fine as long?? Say no more, really say no more.

I'm not going to watch the whole movie all over again to find it. If you chose to disbelieve me, so be it. It wouldn't change you mind if I nailed it to your head, so it really is a waste of my time.
I already went back and found the footage, try watching with the sound turned up.

But you're free to educate yourself on the military history of the region and try watching it again and see if you pick up on the propaganda, but I don't you want to. Why would you, you aren't interested in truth, your interested in maintain the fallacy.
That would include a bit on each of those disappeared 400 villages.
 

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So a million civilian causalities between two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is fine as long?? Say no more, really say no more.
By all means, please supply me with a quote where I said that was "fine". Actually on second thought, since you or eao has to to supply a single quote to support your claims about has been said or not said, don't bother...:roll:

I already went back and found the footage, try watching with the sound turned up.
Did you miss the post above this one?

That would include a bit on each of those disappeared 400 villages.
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Pic ain't working.

Would you like the page like instead?

Yep, and yes it is. See how the narration at 21:54 leads people to believe that's the Israeli's, when in fact, 1, the Israeli's didn't have Sherman's in 48. But the Jordanians had British surplus ones. 2, the Soldiers marching through the streets were Jordanian, as seen in 24:30. They are the same uniform.
That's what I saw the in the vid and the picture, Jordan actually marched it's troops down streets in 'Israel" during a war, I find that a little hard to swallow. Notice I wasn't claiming the guy with the eye-patch wasn't 'you know who'.

Which was actually accurately attributed to the friendly Arabs protecting Palestine.
That's what friend do, they should have turned off the oil instead. Never too late for that.

Okay

ICC=International Criminal Court.
I meant the Israeli Supreme Court, they ruled part of the wall was illegal some years back, so far it is in the same spot. They won't even obey their own courts.

I know, had you spent more time with me, you wouldn't be in the mess you're in.
Let me guess, the gunshot might not have killed me but gutting me before taking me for first-aid would.
 

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Would you like the page like instead?
Please.

That's what I saw the in the vid and the picture, Jordan actually marched it's troops down streets in 'Israel" during a war, I find that a little hard to swallow.
So do I, which is why I didn't say that.

I meant the Israeli Supreme Court, they ruled part of the wall was illegal some years back, so far it is in the same spot. They won't even obey their own courts.
And that some how pertains to the topic at hand how?
 

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By all means, please supply me with a quote where I said that was "fine". Actually on second thought, since you or eao has to to supply a single quote to support your claims about has been said or not said, don't bother...:roll:

I asked a question, that means I have no idea on your view. so how could I supply a quote?
Your words do indicate you see the US as acting with restraint as far as civilian deaths are concerned.

Did you miss the post above this one?
I hope not, what point do you see me as not answering?

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It is a long distance between you and humanity, I agree.
 

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I asked a question, that means I have no idea on your view. so how could I supply a quote?
That wasn't a question, that was a supercilious statement with a question mark thrown in for effect, then followed up by a asinine comment.
Your words do indicate you see the US as acting with restraint as far as civilian deaths are concerned.
No, facts indicate that the US, Israel and the Allies have used a great deal of restraint in all three conflicts. The fact that you can't understand that is of no surprise.

I hope not, what point do you see me as not answering?
I didn't say you did, I was answering your accusation. Although given your obvious confusion, it likely doesn't matter.

It is a long distance between you and humanity, I agree.
It's likely a far lessor distance then you are from reality, so I'm pretty much ok with that.

Thanx for noticing.
 
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That wasn't a question, that was a supercilious statement with a question mark thrown in for effect, then followed up by a asinine comment.
No, facts indicate that the US, Israel and the Allies have used a great deal of restraint in all three conflicts. The fact that you can't understand that is of no surprise.
So the fact that Iraq alone is is a war started with known lies (at the time) is besides the point, so all the violence against Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank is against the UN Treaty 181 in letter and in spirit.

I didn't say you did, I was answering your accusation. Although given your obvious confusion, it likely doesn't matter.
My reply was 3 min after that question, who does the film say were the ones in black with bats and guarded by the helmeted people.

It's likely a far lessor distance then you are from reality, so I'm pretty much ok with that.

Thanx for noticing.
Reality eh, are the 50 some UN resolutions valid complaints based on the reality of the given summary or not, and if not which ones and why and include references to any source material?
I'm only reading about events eh. I've heard it said once, maybe more than once actually, that the safest place when I have a gun is right in front of me. lol

That aside the route taken way back then makes everything after that almost pointless, they are in breech right then and there. According to the 'signed rules' Nations cannot use their Military to aid such events without somebody paying a price.
On the other hand if you accept the point they made about the creation being based on events further back then is that what the citizens of Canada were supporting or were they given a story that was void of some basic facts that were known only to the back-room deals. Even this film would not name who the creators of Zionism were, that is how much power the banksters have. lol Certainly works 'legally' when the artillery barrage is coming from Israel into Gaza. If they are into this sort of 'birth pangs', what is a rebel teen going to be like when all the 'local enemies' have been dispatched with nobody saying anything but, "You need even more money?"

If you say this sort of activity cannot be associated with the Nazis Military and the Civilian Jews, then the death squads of the Nations of Central and South America can certainly be associated with Israel's behavior from 1947 towards anybody deemed as 'in the way'. I can well imagine the School of Americas has some old original footage for their training films with some very well known SS Officers at their 'new job' doing the teaching. Odd that it was just like their 'old job'.
 

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So the fact that Iraq alone is is a war started with known lies (at the time) is besides the point, so all the violence against Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank is against the UN Treaty 181 in letter and in spirit.
Please provide a quote in which I have claimed the lies used to justify the Iraq war were besides the point.

My reply was 3 min after that question, who does the film say were the ones in black with bats and guarded by the helmeted people.
I have no idea, the quotes in this string of conversation pertain to Jordanian Troops and tanks.

Reality eh, are the 50 some UN resolutions valid complaints based on the reality of the given summary or not, and if not which ones and why and include references to any source material?
What 50 resolutions would those be?
I'm only reading about events eh. I've heard it said once, maybe more than once actually, that the safest place when I have a gun is right in front of me. lol
What gun would that be?

That aside the route taken way back then makes everything after that almost pointless, they are in breech right then and there.
When and where?

According to the 'signed rules' Nations cannot use their Military to aid such events without somebody paying a price.
What rules would those be and what's the price?
On the other hand if you accept the point they made about the creation being based on events further back then is that what the citizens of Canada were supporting or were they given a story that was void of some basic facts that were known only to the back-room deals.
What deals would those be?

Even this film would not name who the creators of Zionism were, that is how much power the banksters have.
What bankers are you talking about here?

lol Certainly works 'legally' when the artillery barrage is coming from Israel into Gaza. If they are into this sort of 'birth pangs', what is a rebel teen going to be like when all the 'local enemies' have been dispatched with nobody saying anything but, "You need even more money?"
Who's saying that?

If you say this sort of activity cannot be associated with the Nazis Military and the Civilian Jews, then the death squads of the Nations of Central and South America can certainly be associated with Israel's behavior from 1947 towards anybody deemed as 'in the way'.
What death squads?

I can well imagine the School of Americas has some old original footage for their training films with some very well known SS Officers at their 'new job' doing the teaching. Odd that it was just like their 'old job'.
What SS officers?

LIFE in Israel in 1948 – Part 2 - benatlas.com

4 parts in all, I haven't seem most of them before.
I just went through them, and they all appear to be Haganah. Unlike the uniformed Troops in the video, which were Jordanian.

Is this the Jordanian soldiers you were talking about?
Nope, that's the Yishuv/Haganah.

Which is why they aren't flanked by tanks, sporting British supplied weapons, uniforms and being followed by British artillery.

If you knew anything about military history, let alone the actual history of that region, you wouldn't be so confused by the facts. This of course is compounded by the fact that you quote time codes, at which the video depicted a completely different armed force. The fact that you think this picture is some how in dispute, boggles the mind.
 
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Nope, that's the Yishuv/Haganah.

Which is why they aren't flanked by tanks, sporting British supplied weapons, uniforms and being followed by British artillery.
Sorry this didn't copy with the picture.
"Arab soldiers with rifles being transported in military vehicles. March 1948. John Phillips"
 

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Sorry this didn't copy with the picture.
"Arab soldiers with rifles being transported in military vehicles. March 1948. John Phillips"
My bad.

I assumed they were Haganah/Yishuv by their ragtag appearance.

That picture however is not an accurate depiction of the whole of the Arab Nations poised against Israel.

I hope you aren't trying to pass that off as such?

Because if you are, I'm about to embarrass you completely. There's one thin gto be said for the oneupsmanship and bragging nature of the Arab culture, they leave behind a trail to follow that is a mile wide.
 

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Here's another opinion:


Shulamit Aloni (Hebrew: שולמית אלוני‎, born 29 November 1928 ) is an Israeli politician

Born Shulamit Adler in Tel Aviv, her mother was a seamstress and her father was a carpenter, both descended from Polish Jewish rabbinical families. She was sent to boarding school during World War II while her parents served in the British Army. As a youth she was a member of the Hashomer Hatzair socialist Zionist youth movement and the Palmach. During the 1948 Israeli War of Independence she was involved in military struggles for the Old City of Jerusalem and was captured by Jordanian forces.

Following the establishment of the state of Israel, Aloni worked with child refugees and helped establish a school for immigrant children. She was a teacher while studying law. In 1952 she married Reuven Aloni and moved to Kfar Shmaryahu.

Aloni joined Mapai in 1959. She also worked as a lawyer and hosted a radio show Outside Working Hours that dealt with human rights and women's rights. Aloni also worked as a columnist for several newspapers.

In 1965 she was first elected to the Knesset on the list of the Alignment (a merger of Mapai and Ahdut HaAvoda), and subsequently founded the Israel Consumers Council, which she chaired for four years.

She left the Alignment in 1973 and established Ratz (Citizens Rights Movement), a party advocating electoral reform, separation of religion and state and human rights. The party won three Knesset mandates in the 1973 elections. Ratz initially joined the Alignment-led government with Aloni as minister without portfolio...
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[SIZE=+2]Yes, There is Apartheid in Israel[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+2]By SHULAMIT ALONI[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+3]J[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]ewish self-righteousness is taken for granted among ourselves to such an extent that we fail to see what's right in front of our eyes. It's simply inconceivable that the ultimate victims, the Jews, can carry out evil deeds. Nevertheless, the state of Israel practises its own, quite violent, form of Apartheid with the native Palestinian population.

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[SIZE=-1]The US Jewish Establishment's onslaught on former President Jimmy Carter is based on him daring to tell the truth which is known to all: through its army, the government of Israel practises a brutal form of Apartheid in the territory it occupies. Its army has turned every Palestinian village and town into a fenced-in, or blocked-in, detention camp. All this is done in order to keep an eye on the population's movements and to make its life difficult. Israel even imposes a total curfew whenever the settlers, who have illegally usurped the Palestinians' land, celebrate their holidays or conduct their parades.[/SIZE]
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If that were not enough, the generals commanding the region frequently issue further orders, regulations, instructions and rules (let us not forget: they are the lords of the land). By now they have requisitioned further lands for the purpose of constructing "Jewish only" roads. Wonderful roads, wide roads, well-paved roads, brightly lit at night--all that on stolen land. When a Palestinian drives on such a road, his vehicle is confiscated and he is sent on his way.[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]On one occasion I witnessed such an encounter between a driver and a soldier who was taking down the details before confiscating the vehicle and sending its owner away. "Why?" I asked the soldier. "It's an order--this is a Jews-only road", he replied. I inquired as to where was the sign indicating this fact and instructing [other] drivers not to use it. His answer was nothing short of amazing. "It is his responsibility to know it, and besides, what do you want us to do, put up a sign here and let some antisemitic reporter or journalist take a photo so he that can show the world that Apartheid exists here?"[/SIZE]
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Indeed Apartheid does exist here. And our army is not "the most moral army in the world" as we are told by its commanders. Sufficient to mention that every town and every village has turned into a detention centre and that every entry and every exit has been closed, cutting it off from arterial traffic. If it were not enough that Palestinians are not allowed to travel on the roads paved 'for Jews only', on their land, the current GOC found it necessary to land an additional blow on the natives in their own land with an "ingenious proposal".[/SIZE]

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Humanitarian activists cannot transport Palestinians either.[/SIZE]

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Major-General Naveh, renowned for his superior patriotism, has issued a new order. Coming into affect on 19 January, it prohibits the conveyance of Palestinians without a permit. The order determines that Israelis are not allowed to transport Palestinians in an Israeli vehicle (one registered in Israel regardless of what kind of numberplate it carries) unless they have received explicit permission to do so. The permit relates to both the driver and the Palestinian passenger. Of course none of this applies to those whose labour serves the settlers. They and their employers will naturally receive the required permits so they can continue to serve the lords of the land, the settlers.[/SIZE]

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Did man of peace President Carter truly err in concluding that Israel is creating Apartheid? Did he exaggerate? Don't the US Jewish community leaders recognise the International Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Racial Discrimination of 7 March 1966, to which Israel is a signatory? Are the US Jews who launched the loud and abusive campaign against Carter for supposedly maligning Israel's character and its democratic and humanist nature unfamiliar with the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid of 30 November 1973? Apartheid is defined therein as an international crime that among other things includes using different legal instruments to rule over different racial groups, thus depriving people of their human rights. Isn't freedom of travel one of these rights?[/SIZE]

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In the past, the US Jewish community leaders were quite familiar with the meaning of those conventions. For some reason, however, they are convinced that Israel is allowed to contravene them. It's OK to kill civilians, women and children, old people and parents with their children, deliberately or otherwise without accepting any responsibility. It's permissible to rob people of their lands, destroy their crops, and cage them up like animals in the zoo. From now on, Israelis and International humanitarian organisations' volunteers are prohibited from assisting a woman in labour by taking her to the hospital. [Israeli human rights group] Yesh Din volunteers cannot take a robbed and beaten-up Palestinian to the police station to lodge a complaint. (Police stations are located at the heart of the settlements.) Is there anyone who believes that this is not Apartheid????[/SIZE]



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