Playing or watching? Either way, it might be fun to play it or watch it in the dark.
Okay. I have to respond to this. Play hockey in the dark. That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!:lol::lol::lol:
Playing or watching? Either way, it might be fun to play it or watch it in the dark.
Conservatives will support most any environmental cause that actually benefits the environment, however they won't support the phony causes dreamed up by environuts.Conservatives normally don't support any environmental initiatives, whether symbolic or substantial.
:lol: Oh how you twist and squirm! Until quite recently the city of Victoria dumped all its sewage into the sea untreated. It wasn't any safety problem. And if safety is involved, somehow it's not environmental any more? :-? A buddy of mine lived in Costa Rica for a couple years. Sewage there went directly from houses into a creek, but according to you that's not an evironemental concern.And who will oppose discharging untreated sewage into lakes and streams? That can hardly be called environmental initiative, it is a safety issue. Same thing applies to leaded gasoline. Once lead was proved to be poisonous, it became a safety issue, not an environmental one.
I just did.So in other words, you cannot point to even a single environmental initiative that you support.
Canadian or US? I support the idea of protecting species that are endangered by human activity. But the act in the US has been used more to advance political agendas than to protect creatures.But let me throw you a softball. Do you support the Endangered Species Act? YJ evidently doesn't, he as much as implied that all the animal species can go to Hell for all he cares. Are you that right wing? How do you feel about the Endangered Species Act?
Interesting. I knew they had put caps on and required scrubbers but I had no idea there was any trading.
You just keep pounding that same drum. I've already informed you that Cap and Trade & Kyoto are political and wealth transfer initiatives. I've answered on drilling in Alaska. And I've just answered on the ESA.And I have shown that they were not environmental initiatives, but safety matters. Here is a partial list of some of the major environmental initiatives.
Cap and Trade
Kyoto
Drilling in Alaska
Endangered Species Act
Introduction of bears and wolfs in their old habitats (but where they were hunted to extinction).
Interesting. I knew they had put caps on and required scrubbers but I had no idea there was any trading.
No, that's you putting your words into my mouth. They are uninformed and misinformed. You don't have to be either gullible or stupid when you are thus ignorant of the facts and governments, most media, celebrities, industries and a LOT of environmentalists are all working together. My brother holds a doctorate and teaches at a university so he's not stupid but he swallowed the AGW scam whole. One of these days I'll get him into a discussion of the subject. ;-)So you are saying pretty much the same thing as YJ, only in different words. According to you, more than one billion people in the world are extremely gullible (translate: stupid), so that they can be led astray by a few environmentalists. .
Nope, he's one of the misinformed who have been led astray.And are you calling the Pope a left wing nut? I am sure Pope will be amused by that, normally he is called a right wing nut (for opposing aboriton, homosexuality etc.).
I don't think anybody is capable of leading more than one billion people astray.
No, that's you putting your words into my mouth. They are uninformed and misinformed. You don't have to be either gullible or stupid when you are thus ignorant of the facts and governments, most media, celebrities, industries and a LOT of environmentalists are all working together. My brother holds a doctorate and teaches at a university so he's not stupid but he swallowed the AGW scam whole. One of these days I'll get him into a discussion of the subject. ;-)
Nope, he's one of the misinformed who have been led astray.
Nope, I'm just remembering all the newspaper and magazine articles from way back when. Couldn't swear that memory is accurate.Care to quote the regulations? I can find one specific mention of scrubbers in Title 4 of the Clean Air Act amendments, but it's at the very end when describing a demonstration project. There is lots of language about caps though, and who must cut emissions. But I don't see anything about specific technologies mandated.
The cap and trade program allowed the market to pick the winners. I don't see anything about government demanding it from a single technology. Perhaps you can enlighten us...
A certain amount of government regulations is necessary. It was regulations that got rid of leaded gas. It's regulations that greatly reduced other exhaust pollutants from cars. Municipal regulations severly limit the amount of burning allowed within their boundaries. Left to itself would the market have reduced pollutants to the extent they have been cut? I don't think so.Anyways, if you are right, are you saying that government regulations would be more preferable than allowing the market to pick the winners for all pollution reductions as well?
Me wrong about the Pope? Ya really think he's a left wing nut?....has it ever occured to you that it is you who is wrong?
Since you consistantly get schooled by Ton I'm not sure where you get you confidence from.:scratch:
Yes he was also being sarcastic. I'm surprised you got that, usually you don't.No he wasn't. He was being sarcastic. If you look at the picture, North Korea is in full blaze. So he was saying that it did not succeed in North Korea. And he was proud of the fact that North Korea stuck it to the environmentalists.
Is your computer still turned on? The forum software says you're still here....
He refers to his friends as braying mob.
Any wonder and surprise how he treat his fellow posters?
Hydro usage in Toronto dropped by over 10%. I would say that it was a success.
Okay. I have to respond to this. Play hockey in the dark. That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!:lol::lol::lol:
Conservatives will support most any environmental cause that actually benefits the environment, however they won't support the phony causes dreamed up by environuts.
I don’t think it needs a rocket scientist to figure out that dumping raw sewage into lakes and rivers is a safety issue. If you happen to drink that water it will make you sick.:lol: Oh how you twist and squirm! Until quite recently the city of Victoria dumped all its sewage into the sea untreated. It wasn't any safety problem. And if safety is involved, somehow it's not environmental any more? :-? A buddy of mine lived in Costa Rica for a couple years. Sewage there went directly from houses into a creek, but according to you that's not an evironmental concern.
So you don’t think much of endangered species legislation. About what I figured.Canadian or US? I support the idea of protecting species that are endangered by human activity. But the act in the US has been used more to advance political agendas than to protect creatures.
Interesting. I knew they had put caps on and required scrubbers but I had no idea there was any trading.
You just keep pounding that same drum. I've already informed you that Cap and Trade & Kyoto are political and wealth transfer initiatives. I've answered on drilling in Alaska. And I've just answered on the ESA.
No, that's you putting your words into my mouth. They are uninformed and misinformed. You don't have to be either gullible or stupid when you are thus ignorant of the facts and governments, most media, celebrities, industries and a LOT of environmentalists are all working together. My brother holds a doctorate and teaches at a university so he's not stupid but he swallowed the AGW scam whole. One of these days I'll get him into a discussion of the subject. ;-)
Nope, he's one of the misinformed who have been led astray.
Yes he was also being sarcastic. I'm surprised you got that, usually you don't.
Yeah, full blaze with one city lit up and nothing else. Ah, the benefits of socialism!:roll: