Why? If you actually do read any of it, you'll ignore it and continue spewing your Liberal dogma anyway.
The definition of Liberalism
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I think she was referring to Harper inheriting a bad economic situation, which you have constantly ignored....
Risus good day pal, go back a read before you tell me I am wrong, I covered that all ready pal.
well provide some info and I will read it and respond, I have no problem debating the issue. I stated the reason why Trudeau ran deficits also the good he did for the country. And I asked where is the comparison between him and Harper. :smile:
Free trade can help developing nations by allowing them access to other markets for their domestic products, sure, The often lower labour costs in these countries can encourage investment in manufacturing. The rise of China as a major manufacturing nation is a good example of this.
Free trade can hurt developing nations when their domestic manufacturers (or farmers, and look what has happened to farmers here in Canada as a result of free trade) are forced to compete with lower cost products from other nations.
That is why true free trade is rare. Even strong manufacturing nations like China, South Korea, and Japan place restrictions on imports of certain goods to protect domestic manufacturers.
Two bad things. Free trade hurt many Canadians as well many Americans, the good result was minimal.
The GST again badly administered which caused a huge underground market in the early 90s. Where is the strong comparison between the two men.
SJP
I do not lay all the world economic problems all at Harpers feet - The Liberals when in power were trying to lessen the controls on banks -Some Canadian Banks could have gone the same way as many in the US did. To think otherwise is foolish -
Yes I would agree that the GST should increase - Helps the Govt books - keeps interest rates and inflation down which if we have interest rate hikes with a $ almost at par would cause a severe impact on Canadian Business and household debt.
The Liberals under Chretien /Martin the Knife - referring to his march to push Chretien out - inherited a massive deficit - But the public was ready for cuts - They also reaped the benefits of an economic rebound in the US from George Bush, GST from Mulroney and yes NAFTA again from Mulroney - that with a low dollar put us in the black -
The philosophy of yours that whoever in power reaps the benefits or the wrath is simplistic at the least - It is the polices that are promoted - that is what goes into the history books - History does not begin or end with one Govt as you so often like to think.
Now as I have stated repeatedly the poor will pay a disproportionate share of the pain - While I am far from your income level I am for tax increases that do not ruin the poor but help them
In 97 the books were balanced yet the cuts continued - The shortage of skilled works, medical professionals were brought to the Govts attention in the early 90's - and we saw the result during the last upturn in the economy - we still feel it in the Medical professions
A Just Society as Trudeau stated - also mentioned by Iggy the Minor -
How does that equate to inflicting massive punishment on the poor. It does not - So when Liberal spout that who really believes it -
Just the acolytes to borrow your term.
Socrates
Could you name any 14 year old that has been sentenced to 25 years - and I mean not getting out before age 39?
So your answer to the economic problem we have is just to raise taxes? Not very smart...
So let me get it straight what you are saying here. The deficits incurred by Mulroney were minor, and nothing to worry about (what is 40 billion $ every year between friends, right?). And when Liberals got rid of the deficit and replaced it with healthy surplus, the credit goes to Mulroney. My, but your Mulroney must have been positively economic genius.
Then are you also saying that when Canadians gave Liberals three majorities in a row, they really were voting Mulroney into office? That they had forgotten all about how lousy he was as the PM and were so taken by him that they gave him three majorities?
Oh, this gets even better. So the astronomical, the biggest ever deficit that Harper is running is actually the fault of Dion and Ignatieff. So Harper is a puppet and Ignatieff is the puppet master, he pulls Harper's strings as he wishes and Harper has no choice in the matter but to do the evil Ignatieff's bidding?
You have perfectly illustrated how a typical conservative mind works. Anything good happens, Conservatives get the credit, anything bad happens, Liberals get the blame. And it doesn't matter who is in power, it doesn't even matter who is the PM.
So that out of power Mulroney gets the credit for getting rid of the deficit, and in power Harper doesn't get the blame for the deficit. Your political partisanship is astounding, to put it mildly.
Oh, now I get it. The current Liberal party is Marxist, Communist Party (shade of tea baggers who claim that Obama is a Communist). That explains why conservatives get the credit for everything, Liberals get the blame for everything. Communists cannot possibly do anything right, can they? So of course Liberals are to blame for the deficits, conservatives are to praise for the surplus.
So, do you have any explanation as to why Canadians voted four times for the Marxist, Communist Party? Or do you think the explanation is that they actually voted in Conservative (Reform, Alliance) majority, but Liberals rigged the election results? They are Communists, you know. Communists are capable of anything.
Thanks for an entertaining post, anyway.
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Reads like you really aren't a good reader ... or you have an overextended exaggeration muscle.
Quite so. Trudeau started on the path of big deficits, but Mulroney made the problem much worse. After eight years in power, the deficit was more than 40 billion $. The economy was on life support when Liberals took office. Liberals had to clean up Mulroney's gigantic mess.
And now Harper is staying true to classical conservative borrow and spend philosophy and is racking up huge debt and huge deficit. He has increased spending every year he has been in office. He started to increase spending as soon as he came to office, long before Bush meltdown hit us.
Harper inherited bad economic situation? You conservatives will say anything to support your man, wont you? Harper inherited a roaring, robust economy. He inherited healthy surpluses. Show me even one economic indicator which was negative when Harper came to power. Economy was firing on all engines.
Harper’s first act was to give tax cuts mostly benefiting the rich and getting rid of all the surplus. In that he was following his icon, Bush.
The fact is, Harper inherited a very robust economy which he was in the process of ruining even before the Bush meltdown hit us.
As far as I understand, The Conservatives introduced new legislation to insure that a 14 year old who commits murder would be eligible for maximum penalty to life with out parole after 25 years, which will make the youth at that time age 39 .