The definition of Liberalism

[Socrates the Greek]

A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.

no you are ass backwards on that one D sleeper, to confirm your error look at the federal debt is rising like a helium balloon. So, reverse the Liberal word with Conservative and things will be fine.:lol:

 

[DaSleeper]

There you go....Pontificating again like your friend SPA...I have never paid so much tax as I did under Liberal governments..

 

[CDNBear]

There you go....Pontificating again like your friend SPA...I have never paid so much tax as I did under Liberal governments..

I wonder why we see that, and they fail to?

My guess is, they either don't work, or collect welfare DS...:lol:

 

[AnnaG]

Oh yes it does, more sooooooooooooooo then modern Conservatism....One thing to remember is that Liberalism has never gone to war on a lie, Conservatism has and what a lie it was, to the tune in order to garner support it got two know countries to support the lie, by plagiarising each others phoney agenda speech.:smile:

Um, there were Canucks sent to Iraq, you know. I'm pretty sure that ChRETIeN )he's Liberal, you know), was PM at the time.
Opposition questions Canadians' role in Iraq - CTV News
Besides, how can a political philosophy go to war at all? You seem to have any word with "libera" as a base confused with each other. So, liberalism, Liberal, liberal, liberty, Liberia all mean the same to you, it seems.

 

[lone wolf]

Actually, your opinions and viewpoints are quite conservative, and it's very, very amusing.

The more adamant the denial, the more it is likely to be so. 'Fess up porter.... Are you not a Tory shill with an agenda to make Liberals look like complete dolts?....

 

[AnnaG]

Why unfortunately; and what is embedded liberalism?

Unfortunately is the word I used to express my disappointment that Canada is not classically liberal anymore, neither is the Liberal Party.

Embedded liberalism:
Embedded liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.tobinproject.org/twobooks/pdf/New_Perspectives_Ch7_Abdelal_Ruggie.pdf

 

[AnnaG]

:smile:
Good day S JP, Strong point , we would have been $300.000 onto the federal dept had Harper gone into Iraq, while Harper was squawking like an opportunist, throwing roks at a guy who did 50 times better then him after 3 consecutive majorities. Strong good point on Chrétien's report card.

You better have another look at history, ChRETIeN got Canada into Iraq.

 

[lone wolf]

Can i ask the members of this forum who have had the luxury/joy of reading my posts, the question....

What do i sound more like a conservative or liberal, or ndp , or one of those green party hippies?

i dont know

Why worry about being undecided? It's only gangsters who have to hide behind colours anyhow. We are the people the parties have to court and sell the package. The Party faithful? Well ... I guess it just saves them the effort of thinking for themselves.

 

[lone wolf]

You better have another look at history, ChRETIeN got Canada into Iraq.

Link please.... Officially, Canada is in Afghanistan - but it was Chretien who set it up anyhow....

 

[CDNBear]

... I guess it just saves them the effort of thinking for themselves.

Which is why we have so many Soc Puppets wandering aimlessly around...:lol:

 

[AnnaG]

Quoting TenPenny

Well, I can certainly see how our Liberal Party supports that. I believe that the Liberals have ensured that we have no subsidies, no regulations, no marketing boards, no producer quotas....

Who the hell do you think implemented most of Canada's 80 agricultural marketing boards?

If the Chrétien Liberals had done so dismally, is that why the got 3 consecutive land slide majorities because all you have mention above was done wrong by the Liberals?
Come on ...................................you can full the people some time, but you can not full them all the time…………..:smile:

And that's why Harpy's in instead of ChRETIeN or Martin. People woke up and looked at the Gliberal party. lol

 

[AnnaG]

Apparently you do not understand the modern NDP. The party is all for free enterprise. What is is not for is massive corporations that act as oligopolies and stiffle competition. And it is definitely against the continual tax breaks given giant multinationals that rob the government of revenue and force lower income Canadians to pay their taxes for them.

Well, that's what they say anyway. lol

 

[AnnaG]

In other words, to summarize this thread:

"The definition of Liberalism is Chretien got 3 majorities, so you're an idiot."

That's about it in a nutshell, yup.

 

[lone wolf]

Well, that's what they say anyway. lol

Isn't that how it goes for any of them?

 

[AnnaG]

I believe the definition confuses liberal thought with the libertarianism of Friedman and Rand. Right now the "definition" describes the Wild Rose Party which lies to the right of the Conservatives. But, then again Sir J is a conservative which seems to bug other conservatives! Go figure!

lol Figuring sometimes is cause for headaches. I try not to do it at length but instead I try to relax and enjoy the hilarity.

 

[AnnaG]

What, that Sir J is a conservative? He will admit it!

Quite. He's the polar opposite of Lyin Brian, who is a modern Liberal in a Con's suit. Sir Porky is a conservative in a Gliberal suit. lol

 

[AnnaG]

Start your own thread calling it "Do you pensive me to be Conservative Liberal or NDP". :canada:

:?::?::?::?:
Pensive, according to the dictionary means
"brooding: deeply or seriously thoughtful;" so you basically said "call it 'Do you thoughtful me to be Conservative Liberal or NDP'". It's gibberish.

 

[lone wolf]

Ha! I just posted on the coloured TP thread and this came up....

 

[CDNBear]

It's gibberish.

At this point, that's all I'm expecting from this clown.

 

[AnnaG]

There are so many misconceptions here I don’t know where to begin.

To start with, conservatives do NOT like the things the way they are now. They would like to change several things. They would like to bring back the death penalty, they would like to outlaw gay marriage. Some of them would like to privatize health care, turn it into American style health care (or what used to be American style health care, that has changed since the recent law). Some others would want to outlaw abortion, get rid of all gun control legislation etc.

So they most certainly don’t like the things the way they are.

Another misconception is that Liberals never like the way things are, that they always want things to change. Nothing of the sort, most liberals are quite happy with the things they are in Canada.

It is not correct to decide whether a person is conservative or not by seeing whether he wants a change or not. Liberals want a change only if it will lead to an improvement of individual rights, of minority rights. Conservatives want a change only if it wills take the society to the ‘Good Old Days’. In the thread where we discussed how terrible things were 50 years ago, you saw how many conservatives want to go back to the old days; want to turn the clock back 50 years.

So it is not true that conservatives always oppose change and that liberals always support it. It depends upon the circumstances.

Yup, that's quite the list of misconceptions and inaccuracies.