HEALTH CARE - User fees
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Yeah, well...................We (yup, both of us) didn't have to wait at all for knee and hip replacements. (Ont.)
Both of us got referred to an orthapedic surgeon and the wait was something like two weeks.
Walk into the local ER with your hand on your chest, and you'll be in the Ottawa Heart Institute within an hour. Helicopter if needed.
??????????????????? I hear the horror stories, but can't think of any local.
Thank Whosisname!!:idea:
The Canadian Health Care System is funded by PUBLIC, TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
As such it should strive to deliver the best service to ALL.
So, if one should find a service in the States that can deliver relief in two weeks, rather than eight months in Canada, the Canadian Health Care System should cover the expenses. After all, it would enable another Canadian to get one step ahead in the cue.
Of course, the Canadian Health Care System is NOT about helping patients. I is about padding the coffers of the Government.
As such it should strive to deliver the best service to ALL.
So, if one should find a service in the States that can deliver relief in two weeks, rather than eight months in Canada, the Canadian Health Care System should cover the expenses. After all, it would enable another Canadian to get one step ahead in the cue.
Of course, the Canadian Health Care System is NOT about helping patients. I is about padding the coffers of the Government.
Yep, no use knocking on the door when there is no one home...........:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Yep, I think there are a few things wrong with the system contrary to the opinion of some. For one thing I don't really thing all Canadians are willing to fund the system to cover the true costs. Our health is our most important asset and we have to decide what it's worth to use. Surely equal to the amount some spend on booze and cigarettes. Of course abuse to the system is at fault for a lot of the problem (which user fees up front would solve (much to the chagrin of the resident expert). I'd just as soon they drop me from the system refund my money and I'll take my chances with a private insurance policy (which I bet would be quite reasonable with $1000 deductable)
User fees will not happen because of so-called "SOCIAL JUSTICE".
There are those who made something of their lives can afford them and there are the slugs who never did anything, but waiting for and receiving hand-outs, who can't.
In our politically correct system the slugs are favoured, in the name of social justice.
There are those who made something of their lives can afford them and there are the slugs who never did anything, but waiting for and receiving hand-outs, who can't.
In our politically correct system the slugs are favoured, in the name of social justice.
YOu speak a lot of truth, but I like to think a lot of "slugs" are salvagable through education and patience. At the same time there is the old axiom "survival of the fittest" which can't be ignored. If people are self destructive, there's just no saving them until they can see for themselves - trying amounts to dumping money into a big ravine.
I think you're simplifying things a bit here. There are also the successful crooks and the unlucky ones who'd worked hard but have fallen hard on their luck. Luck always plays at least a small role in life. Add to that that education and access to education, local, family and other environment, etc. play a role too, along with racial and other discrimination which could also make it harder for a person to land a job or find a place to live.
So while there is some truth to what you say, you are grossly oversimplifying it.
And that is exactly what would happen here in the U.S. (again) Every goverment organization must have a BIG bureaucracy to run it, no savings there.
One of our neighbors waited almost a year and got fed up. Went to Arizona and got hip replacement and had a holiday on top of it.
Oh, you mean Martin? Yeah balancing the budget for a couple years was sure worth screwing the provinces and crippling healthcare for a decade.
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Another option to consider though is to have a private system that is simply regulated by the government.Through granted that might need a bureaucracy too. But then again, if we take this to its extreme, all government organizations need a bureaucracy, so do we go ahead and privatize the military and police, and what about highway construction, etc. They all need administrations, etc. So while your point is valid, we have to be careful not to demonize bureaucracy completely.
The best person I've ever read about for determining what gov't should run, what it should regulate, and what it should stay out of was WAC Bennett. BC ran like a clock when he was premiere from what I've read. I haven't seen anyone since then that's even come close to his savvy.
I am not sure something like price controls would work thru regulation, but it is better than running up the bills like we are doing. If were going to have a goverment run health care system, why not just add it to one of the other systems we already have like "Medicare". The system is already there, however good or bad it maybe. I would like to hear how they plan on either lowering the cost of health insurance or limiting how much it can increase. Our postal system (was gov. run) is on the verge of bankruptcy, because of competition by the Internet, FedEx, UPS etc. just doing the job cheaper.
Well then I guess BC people should be heading for Ontario because you wait a very long time for such things both here and Alberta.