Own the podium, God Bless the Conservative Party

Machjo

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Yes it ought to be, but look around this forum and you'll find unconditional negativity about anything called success and progress.

If the Olympics did nothing else it at least shut up the NDP for a couple of weeks, and that in itself is a giant leap for mankind.

OK, now that you look at it that way, it does seem to have shut all the parties up for awhile. That's truly revolutionary.
 

CDNBear

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Are you kidding?

We are gonna get two more than we did in Turin and that's because of the Cons?

Now you're just trolling.

What about the span between Utah and Turin?

17 to 24?

Is that because of the Libs?
Yes.

How about it's not political at all and it is the athletes who have prevailed instead:?:
They can't prevail if they can't afford to practice.

This is our best Olympic showing ever. Thanks in great part to all the sponsors, the single largest being the Federal Gov't, which at present is the Conservative party, who actually went beyond lip service on this single issue and is in no small way a significant factor.
 

Francis2004

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I can say build the house too. Until the money is there, it's just lip service.

Bull.. Budgets are allocate years in advance..

Own the Podium was also declared a failure by them, the Own The Podium Team..

Own The Podium dream is over; Canadian officials say Americans have too many medals to catch up | Macleans.ca - Canada - wire - Features

I wouldn't go so far but those are not my words..

Canadian athletes tried very hard and we should all be proud..

However to say Own the Podium is a "Conservative Contribution" is just as fair as saying the Conservatives won those Medals.. :roll:
 
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countryboy

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Yes it ought to be, but look around this forum and you'll find unconditional negativity about anything called success and progress.

If the Olympics did nothing else it at least shut up the NDP for a couple of weeks, and that in itself is a giant leap for mankind.

Yep, it's like a breath of fresh air to raise the expectation bar to some point above the usual lowest common denominator. Feels damn good.
 

Avro

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Yes.

They can't prevail if they can't afford to practice.

This is our best Olympic showing ever. Thanks in great part to all the sponsors, the single largest being the Federal Gov't, which at present is the Conservative party, who actually went beyond lip service on this single issue and is in no small way a significant factor.

Oh C'mon, you are way smarter than this....way smarter.;-)

So the leap from 17 to 24 is because of the Libs but they were just playing lip service when they started the "own the podium program" to improve what they had done before?

There is no proof that this program was any more effective than what the Libs had done before if you compare the overall medal count and the fact that our athletes were very familiar to the facilities in Vancouver and surrounding area.

But hey, if you believe that is was I have a rock in my yard for sale that keeps away elephants. How do I I know it keeps away elephants? I have never seen an elephant in my yard.:lol:
 

AnnaG

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No party owns the podium any more than any other party. We are not a one-party system of government.
No gov't did anything about it past talking.... till now. If you're going to talk about doing it, do it.

Now as for government funding of the Olympics, personally I think it was a waste of money; it ought to have been left to the private sector. It may have meant simpler presentations or Canada participating less or even having the Olympics on Canadian soil less frequently. But it's not the number of medals we win that ought to make us love our country. Our love for our country ought to be unconditional, not conditioned upon gold medals at the Olympics.
Same with the arts. Leave that to the private sector, too.

Well, we might as well leave scientific R & D to the private sector, also. That's it, no more grants. WOOT!
 

Machjo

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No gov't did anything about it past talking.... till now. If you're going to talk about doing it, do it.

Same with the arts. Leave that to the private sector, too.

Well, we might as well leave scientific R & D to the private sector, also. That's it, no more grants. WOOT!

Agreed. Provide quality universal compulsory education, and leave the rest to the private sector beyond essential services. The Olympics are not an essential service.
 

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They've given us what we wanted already: something to cheer for. They've won, we got it, now the party's almost over. In four years' time, it'll all be history. But what about concrete achievements for the average Canadian?

I believe that what we have accomplished here will last for years to come. It will give that extra incentive to many of us to exceed and excel in our own manner and fashion. I believe that Canadians have seen that we do have power and I believe that we will use that knowledge to push our country to even greater heights. I believe that these games will go down in history as being one of the defining moments in our history.

I believe, Machjo. Do you?
 
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Mowich

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Yes it ought to be, but look around this forum and you'll find unconditional negativity about anything called success and progress.

If the Olympics did nothing else it at least shut up the NDP for a couple of weeks, and that in itself is a giant leap for mankind.

:wav:
 

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Yes.

They can't prevail if they can't afford to practice.

This is our best Olympic showing ever. Thanks in great part to all the sponsors, the single largest being the Federal Gov't, which at present is the Conservative party, who actually went beyond lip service on this single issue and is in no small way a significant factor.

Here! Here! CDNBear.
 

Francis2004

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To think this is any "Party's Contribution" is crazy.. I can't imagine in 2005 any party not giving unanimous agreement for this to pass..

By no means would I give Liberals any more credit then anyone else.. This is about Athletes, not political parties..

Just like I would not expect any of the budgets that passed to be denied on the basis of the funding for this program.

Maybe I should start a thread that says, THANKS TO THE LIBERALS FOR GIVING US THOSE MEDALS BECAUSE WE WOULD NEVER HAVE WON IF WE WERE NOT AT HOME AND HAD THE OLYMPICS IN VANCOUVER WITHOUT THEM SINCE THE BID WAS WON ON JULY 2, 2003.. It's just as stupid a comment..

It takes a country to win bids and athletes to win medals.. Not political parties..

Get freaking real people..
 

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Yes.

They can't prevail if they can't afford to practice.

This is our best Olympic showing ever. Thanks in great part to all the sponsors, the single largest being the Federal Gov't, which at present is the Conservative party, who actually went beyond lip service on this single issue and is in no small way a significant factor.


Easy with the premature jubilation,
I wonder who will believe crap over facts, a mountain of wrong starting from financial ineptness over two consecutive terms of true dismal chicken little performance.

Sports is a world of it's own,, the athletes got gold because of their individual efforts, the federal conservatives did no favours to no one, the Canadian Government had an obligation to fund part of these games being they spelled economic opportunity…
Lets not mix sports and the Government, bad idea……………….
When the Conservatives are gone, and trust the fact that with all that red in ink trailing behind the Conservative books, they will be gone living behind a financial mess like their predecessor Mulroney did.

Spare me with the Con propaganda.
Are you kidding here?

A rude awakening for the Conservatives is on the way..

YouTube - Stephen Harper's Broken Promises :lol::lol::lol:

YouTube - Stephen Harper Income Trust Promise :lol::lol::lol:

YouTube - Canadians protest change in Income Trust tax rules - CTV :lol::lol::lol:

YouTube - Conservatives Broken Trust :lol::lol::lol:


YouTube - Peter MacKay condones the use of torture :lol::lol::lol:


YouTube - Stephen Harper: Behind Closed Doors :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

YouTube - Harper: Fiscal Conservative or Debt Creator? :lol::lol::lol:

YouTube - Conservative Party Disowns Tom Flanagan :lol::lol::lol:
 

Machjo

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I believe that what we have accomplished here will last for years to come. It will give that extra incentive to many of us to exceed and excel in our own manner and fashion. I believe that Canadians have seen that we do have power and I believe that we will use that knowledge to push our country to even greater heights. I believe that these games will go down in history as being one of the defining moments in our history.

I believe, Machjo. Do you?

You're kidding, right? My motivation to exceed and excel in my profession comes from within, not from athletes.

And as for power, you did not know Canada had power before this? If we wanted to, we'd have the power to send unmanned rockets with remote-controlled land-rovers to Mars, a heck of a lot more impressive an achievement than running down a track. That does not mean however that it would necessarily be a wise use of money. But I suppose you do not believe this because we haven't done it yet, and would thus propose we waste our money on it to prove to average Canadians of what some Canadians can do with public funding behind them.

Also, proving that a professional athlete with plenty of sponsorship money behind him can achieve great feats has little bearing on what the average Canadian can achieve. Are you proposing we sponsor every Canadian the same way? It's totally out of touch with reality. If you want to convince a person of what he can achieve, give him a quality education that will prove to him what he can achieve by making him achieve it, not by having him watch a professional athlete achieve it. I know what I can achieve not because others have achieved it but rather because I have achieved it or am achieving it. There are things a professional athlete can do that I cannot, just as there are things I can do that many athletes probably can't, just because the tasks demanded of us are different.

And as for history, how often do you really think about the Olympics or talk about them except when they're happening or when they're just around the corner?

Really, the Olympics are like soap operas to most people, out of touch with our daily lives. Honestly, I have more fun running on a field playing soccer with friends however amateur we might be at the sport because it proves what we can do. Sure professional athletes would kick my butt on the soccer field. But I don't care much for what they can accomplish, but rather what I can accomplish.
 

Machjo

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Now as for believing, Mowich, real faith comes in believing without seeing, not by having to prove yourself.
 

CDNBear

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Oh C'mon, you are way smarter than this....way smarter.;-)

So the leap from 17 to 24 is because of the Libs but they were just playing lip service when they started the "own the podium program" to improve what they had done before?

There is no proof that this program was any more effective than what the Libs had done before if you compare the overall medal count and the fact that our athletes were very familiar to the facilities in Vancouver and surrounding area.

But hey, if you believe that is was I have a rock in my yard for sale that keeps away elephants. How do I I know it keeps away elephants? I have never seen an elephant in my yard.:lol:


Do you have one for my neighbour too?
 

Northboy

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The Conservatives are taking credit for the Vancouver Olympics?
Boys Boys this project was started in 2003 as an initiative out of the provincial NDP.
The dream had been alive longer than that. It wasn't any government that conceptualized the Olympics in Whistler, that came from a bunch of guys sitting around a kitchen table. It Canadians that should be proud of their accomplishment, not the government for begrudgingly (and it has been) writing a cheque.

Give credit where credit is due, the dreamers of Vancouver.
 

Mowich

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Now as for believing, Mowich, real faith comes in believing without seeing, not by having to prove yourself.

You are so right, Machjo and thank you for making my point. We believed in ourselves, our country, and our athletes before they started winning. As one person put it, we Canadians who cheered them on, were the wind beneath their wings. That our athletes came through in such convincing fashion was a measure of the belief they had in themselves as well as the belief we had them.

All the belief in the world does not cancel the need to set goals and then meet or exceed them. Proving to ourselves that we can do something gives us the extra push for the next time. You may not need the proof, Machjo, but many of us are empowered by it.