Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

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darkbeaver

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Link it. Show me a credible sciencee link that says oceans aren't rising.
IOW, put up or shut up.
You're just in denial because your pot stash is gone.

You are obviously unable to judge the credibility of any number of links to science. Otherwise you wouldn't be repeating the commercial messages of carbon traders. So shut up right back at yourself.
 

Slim Chance

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It's almost certain to be a better and more accurate opinion than Walter's journalist's opinions. Or don't you think zoology has an interest in climate?


The snow shovel companies in Washington DC have an interest in climate too... That doesn't make them experts now, does it?


The threads are loaded with the evidence. You simply refuse to accept it.


There's all kinds of evidence both pro and con. The difference is the pro global warming "experts" are now admitting to the many frauds that exist.

That said, I can't put too much stock in the "evidence" you refer to.



IOW, it's quite likely that Vancouver could be half underwater, the Arctic could be growing 300' spruce trees, the Amazon would be dried up, the Sahara would be drenched in Monsoons, and you'd still be claiming the globe is cooling. lol


Vancouver probably was underwater at one point... Greenland is called Greenland for a reason.
 

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The snow shovel companies in Washington DC have an interest in climate too... That doesn't make them experts now, does it?
Wrong. They have an interest in localised winter weather, not so much in global climate. Zoologists study the effects of climates and weather on animal life. Animal life is a good indicator of things like climate change and other things. Go back to school. You've obviously missed a lot.

http://zoology.suite101.com/article.cfm/tundra_caribou_global_warming_crisis

There's all kinds of evidence both pro and con. The difference is the pro global warming "experts" are now admitting to the many frauds that exist.

That said, I can't put too much stock in the "evidence" you refer to.
You obviously didn't put much stock in your science classes, either. Is your world still flat?

Vancouver probably was underwater at one point... Greenland is called Greenland for a reason.
And you probably had a lucid thought sometime in your life, too. Why not now? lol
 

darkbeaver

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Can't link anything huh? I thought as much. Have another doobie, darkbeaver. You're obviously not able to cope with scientific matters.

I will link you up as soon as I find a remedial site so you can have Anna explain the colours to ya.:smile:

Meanwhile here's a popular commercial science actor.

"We may now be near the end of the search for the ultimate laws of nature." -- Stephen W. Hawking, mathematician, 1988
 

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I will link you up as soon as I find a remedial site so you can have Anna explain the colours to ya.:smile:

Meanwhile here's a popular commercial science actor.

"We may now be near the end of the search for the ultimate laws of nature." -- Stephen W. Hawking, mathematician, 1988
Try me instead of ASSuming I can't understand..
yaaaaawwwwns I'm not holding my breath.
 

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Do you not see the irony here? You carry on about Monbiot and his lack of expertise for a few posts, then pull out the "science has been debunked" garbage. Who debunked it? What journals can we read it in?


i stated that Monbiot based his opinion on "debunked science"... His credentials are that he is a zoologist. Unless zoology, as a discipline, has recently dedicated their full focus on climate based study, then the assessment stands - Zoologists are not climate experts.

The publications that you can read the debunking in are the press releases by the UN, IPCC and the authors of the leaked emails... I don't know if those documents will make it into journals, but they are entirely relevant.



there is one inescapable explanation which is consistent with these facts. The Earth is warming because it is out of radiative balance. It is out of balance because we are proliferating carbon sequestered from the carbon cycle millions of years ago, when the Earth's climate was very warm.

Here is the flaw in your statement. You, nor anyone else knows that the cause is "because we are proliferating carbon sequestered from the carbon cycle millions of years ago".

That is your assumption and nothing more.
 
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"The modern Russian-Ukrainian theory of deep, abiotic petroleum origins is not controversial nor presently a matter of academic debate. The period of debate about this extensive body of knowledge has been over for approximately two decades (Simakov 1986)." -- Jack F. Kenney, geologist/geophysicist, 1996

"In the context of Excess Mass Stress Tectonics – EMST, hydrocarbons are energy sources produced abiotically through a process whereby hydrogen and carbon, but also oxygen, nitrogen, sulphur and trace-elements being formed in the Earth's core, rise through radial fracture trails in the solid and cold mantle to the Earth's surface. If their rise is blocked they compose bigger compounds, e.g., kerogen, that can transform by radiant heat in the upper 5 km or so of the Earth's interior, into gas, oil and coal, at temperatures <200, 100-50, and <50oC, respectively. In the absence of trapping and/or above 200oC, the temperature at which porphyrins are destroyed, they are released as methane gas, like in Titan today, and/or are fully oxidized to CO2 and H2O. Oil and gas reserves mature in basins adjacent to deformed precambrian shields and platforms, mostly during the last 200 m.y., when wide and deep oceans and a complex pattern of uplifts and sedimentary basins developed, thus providing the reservoirs and the structural and/or stratigraphic traps. They associate with moderate seismic and volcanic activity, free-air gravity, geoidal, and heat flow anomalies, and large igneous provinces, i.e., Excess Mass." -- Stavros T. Tassos, seismologist/geoscientist, November 2007
 

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"The modern Russian-Ukrainian theory of deep, abiotic petroleum origins is not controversial nor presently a matter of academic debate. The period of debate about this extensive body of knowledge has been over for approximately two decades (Simakov 1986)." -- Jack F. Kenney, geologist/geophysicist, 1996

"In the context of Excess Mass Stress Tectonics – EMST, hydrocarbons are energy sources produced abiotically through a process whereby hydrogen and carbon, but also oxygen, nitrogen, sulphur and trace-elements being formed in the Earth's core, rise through radial fracture trails in the solid and cold mantle to the Earth's surface. If their rise is blocked they compose bigger compounds, e.g., kerogen, that can transform by radiant heat in the upper 5 km or so of the Earth's interior, into gas, oil and coal, at temperatures <200, 100-50, and <50oC, respectively. In the absence of trapping and/or above 200oC, the temperature at which porphyrins are destroyed, they are released as methane gas, like in Titan today, and/or are fully oxidized to CO2 and H2O. Oil and gas reserves mature in basins adjacent to deformed precambrian shields and platforms, mostly during the last 200 m.y., when wide and deep oceans and a complex pattern of uplifts and sedimentary basins developed, thus providing the reservoirs and the structural and/or stratigraphic traps. They associate with moderate seismic and volcanic activity, free-air gravity, geoidal, and heat flow anomalies, and large igneous provinces, i.e., Excess Mass." -- Stavros T. Tassos, seismologist/geoscientist, November 2007
So? You are saying these gases, oil, and coal are causing the oceans to rise?
 

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Wrong. They have an interest in localised winter weather, not so much in global climate. Zoologists study the effects of climates and weather on animal life. Animal life is a good indicator of things like climate change and other things. Go back to school. You've obviously missed a lot.

Tundra Caribou in Global Warming Crisis: Arctic Animals Including Reindeer Face Bleak Future

You obviously didn't put much stock in your science classes, either. Is your world still flat?

And you probably had a lucid thought sometime in your life, too. Why not now? lol


Interesting post... I never really thought that people like you really existed - looks like I was wrong.

thanks for the link on caribou and zoologists... Clearly they are interested therefore they must be reliable experts in all things. hell, I suppose that they are expert geologists as part of their interest is based on the food sources of caribou and as the soil/land composition is related to the geological structures, they have that expertise as well.

So i suppose that the message is that you, and you alone are right, everyone else is wrong.

Ever thought of working for the IPCC or East Anglia University? I hear there are many openings.
 
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