Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

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Slim Chance

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The point is that the presentations will be treated in exactly the same manner in which Walter's contribution was treated - that is - it is without any merit.
 

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George Monbiot is an environmental activist trained in zoology. Clearly he is an educated man, but that does not qualify him as an expert in this debate... His is essentially an opinion and nothing more.
 

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George Monbiot is an environmental activist trained in zoology. Clearly he is an educated man, but that does not qualify him as an expert in this debate... His is essentially an opinion and nothing more.

It's not an op-ed.

It's a debate.

Plimer, one of the denial industry leaders gets owned by a journalist, imagine what a climatologist could do.

Your point has a slim chance of being relevant.

Btw, everytime Walt posts something someone is there to counter it with no follow up at all by Walt himself.
 

Slim Chance

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Monbiot's contributions were nothing more than his opinion that he generated through cherry-picking selective data that, on a narrow basis, supports his beliefs... Considering that the self-appointed experts at the UN, NASA, et al have recently been publicly debunked, it's tough to believe any of the now outlandish "facts" that Monbiot relies upon.

Global warming is unraveling at the seams - Monbiot refuses to accept that fact.
 

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Monbiot's contributions were nothing more than his opinion that he generated through cherry-picking selective data that, on a narrow basis, supports his beliefs... Considering that the self-appointed experts at the UN, NASA, et al have recently been publicly debunked, it's tough to believe any of the now outlandish "facts" that Monbiot relies upon.

Global warming is unraveling at the seams - Monbiot refuses to accept that fact.
And Tonnington would own you in any debate on the subject. So far I have not seen you show one bit of evidence to counter climate change.
 

Slim Chance

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Show me any evidence that supports it.. That is if you can find some that hasn't already been unveiled as fraudulent.
 

L Gilbert

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What is this "Local Weather" your referring to? Were having a much cooler than normal winter here in Florida, right now it is 59F deg. outside. The Gulf Stream is about 2 degrees cooler than usual for this time of year. Last week there was one day you could have had cross country skiing in north Florida. :)Something is not right.
That is local weather. It sure isn't global climate.
Again, weather is short term instances of what is happening in an area. Your area is Florida, it is not indicative of global climate nor even global weather; it is only a small part of it. All the weather for your small area over long periods of time add up to your local area's climate. All the small areas climates over a long period add up to global climate. Just because Florida is having a cooler winter does not mean the climate for the entire globe is cooler.
 

L Gilbert

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George Monbiot is an environmental activist trained in zoology. Clearly he is an educated man, but that does not qualify him as an expert in this debate... His is essentially an opinion and nothing more.
It's almost certain to be a better and more accurate opinion than Walter's journalist's opinions. Or don't you think zoology has an interest in climate?
 

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Things are getting Unnaturally Warmer and Colder...!..Let's Hope It all Balances out..We Must Change our Abusive/Over consumptive/Uncaring Ways ..Or More Sporadic ..Unpredictable...Pollutant Enriched Weather is on the way ...At Our Expence

You're about as sensible as anyone on this thread............:lol:
Let's quit arguing and just be more environmentally responsible and enjoy the warmer weather - turn out some lights, walk to the store, hang the clothes outside to dry, and turn the thermostat down 2 degrees.
 

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Show me any evidence that supports it.. That is if you can find some that hasn't already been unveiled as fraudulent.
The threads are loaded with the evidence. You simply refuse to accept it. IOW, it's quite likely that Vancouver could be half underwater, the Arctic could be growing 300' spruce trees, the Amazon would be dried up, the Sahara would be drenched in Monsoons, and you'd still be claiming the globe is cooling. lol
 

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In your mind only. Go back over this thread and you will see plenty of scientific evidence to prove it and only innuendo debunking it.


The again you can find plenty of evidence that proves it wrong and only innuendo proving it is happening.


For the record, I think where I am in Florida will be under water by the end of the century. I don't think it is man's doing though, it just will happen and there is nothing we can do to stop it, and doesn't matter what we call it.
 

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The again you can find plenty of evidence that proves it wrong and only innuendo proving it is happening.


For the record, I think where I am in Florida will be under water by the end of the century. I don't think it is man's doing though, it just will happen and there is nothing we can do to stop it, and doesn't matter what we call it.
Don't worry. Be happy. December 21 2012 is only a couple of years away - the end of the world as we know it. Party til ya drop.
 

L Gilbert

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The again you can find plenty of evidence that proves it wrong and only innuendo proving it is happening.
Not so far, unless you consider evidence as being posts containing journalistic editorials and incidences of short term fluctuations in climate.


For the record, I think where I am in Florida will be under water by the end of the century. I don't think it is man's doing though, it just will happen and there is nothing we can do to stop it, and doesn't matter what we call it.
That'd definitely be a sign that global warming is a scam and global cooling is what's happening alright.
You are definitly right that oceans are rising, though. Small island countries are already in deep trouble.

http://www.earth-policy.org/index.php?/plan_b_updates/2001/update2

http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/pages/rising-seas.html

So if the globe isn't warming and the oceans aren't being added to or thermally expanding, where's all the water coming from? Sun spots? Electric gravity? Aliens are piping it here? Gods are doing it?
 

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Avro in reference to floods /sporadic weather "We won't know for some time, maybe 20 or so years." - They'll Know in Washington and some other parts of the U.S. in the spring..

Really? So we are going to have floods in Washington? Washington State or Washington DC?
 
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