Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

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darkbeaver

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Not so far, unless you consider evidence as being posts containing journalistic editorials and incidences of short term fluctuations in climate.


That'd definitely be a sign that global warming is a scam and global cooling is what's happening alright.
You are definitly right that oceans are rising, though. Small island countries are already in deep trouble.

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So if the globe isn't warming and the oceans aren't being added to or thermally expanding, where's all the water coming from? Sun spots? Electric gravity? Aliens are piping it here? Gods are doing it?

Beneath the mantle, far beneath the mantle, you will find, in perpetually renewed abundance, all the molecular parts of water, and oil. There is no such thing as a nonrenewable resource eh. Nothing happens anywhere without electricity.
 

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Monbiot's contributions were nothing more than his opinion that he generated through cherry-picking selective data that, on a narrow basis, supports his beliefs... Considering that the self-appointed experts at the UN, NASA, et al have recently been publicly debunked, it's tough to believe any of the now outlandish "facts" that Monbiot relies upon.


Do you not see the irony here? You carry on about Monbiot and his lack of expertise for a few posts, then pull out the "science has been debunked" garbage. Who debunked it? What journals can we read it in?

Here's the facts:
- the surface of the Earth is warming, as are the oceans.
- the oceans are acidifying.
- the stratosphere is cooling.
- the diurnal temperature range is decreasing.
- isotherms are moving north.
- species are moving north.
- Arctic ice is receding and becoming younger.
- glaciers are retreating.
- we're in the deepest solar minimum in a century, with the warmest temperatures in a century.
- greenhouse gas concentrations are rising, some exponentially.

Put all that together, and there is one inescapable explanation which is consistent with these facts. The Earth is warming because it is out of radiative balance. It is out of balance because we are proliferating carbon sequestered from the carbon cycle millions of years ago, when the Earth's climate was very warm.

Emails, errors in reports, frustrated scientists, do not debunk any of these facts. They are observable. They are empirical.

Could you be any more ironic? :lol:
 

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Greenfish is nuts. Tuvalu is drowning now. People are leaving now. A lot of Florida is not very far above sea level.

Fair enough. We'll leave Greenfish out of it.

Florida has always been right at sea level. Serious question here. If Tavalu is drowning...why isn't Florida?

Edited for parity

Tavalu- 4.5M

Miami-6.1M
 

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What's the problem coastal areas disappear constantly, there is nothing out of the ordinary whatever.
Because of erosion, not because ocean levels are rising. Quit being immensely obtuse, please.
You're not one of those nuts who thinks a carbon tax can turn the sun on and off are you?
Personally, I don't give a crap about carbon credits.
 

darkbeaver

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Science debunked it Tonnington. Science is undergoing a bit of a shakeup as we speak. The real scientists and the paid pretenders are dukin it out. I enjoy a good professional bloodbath. Some of the losers will be doing time.
 

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The Prime Minister of Tuvalu says he will not sign a climate change agreement that does not meet his demands on limiting global temperature rises.
Tuvalu and other small island states had been pushing for global temperature rises to be kept below 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial levels, and include commitments from countries such as China and India, which claim "developing" status, while having extensive polluting manufacturing industries and high technology industries that rival the western world.

I'm with this guy!
 
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