The Power of Positive Thinking to Reverse Aging!
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Yeah, I know. I think applying the term "reality" to the products of "alternate states" is kind of taking liberties. I have no doubt dreams are real, IOW, it's what is in dreams I think is what isn't real. IE, I am pretty sure that when I go flying, my body isn't and my subconscious is trying to convince the rest of me it is. The problem my sub-conscious has is that my dreams are lucid and I can direct them like movies if I choose to so I know that I am dreaming when I dream and that they are only dreams that only occur in my mind.
There is no evidence to the contrary, JLM. Just as there is no evidence against the existence of Santa Clause (or there is no evidence against my claim that I have been to Jupiter in the past 20 years).
Whether there is any evidence against there being any after life is besides the point. We must look at what evidence is there for it, and there is practically none.
Yep, there's a few walking around that would support that theory, Cliff.....:lol::lol::lol:
The dark side of the moon is that side which has no light shed upon it. It moves relative to the position of the Earth and the Sun.
If you meant the far side of the moon, here's a pic (no cheese, no gingerbread):
I'm sure that if people have named various features of the "unseen" side of the moon, they'd have mentioned a house.
If you intend to convince people that there is a house made of cheese and gingerbread that moves away from our line of sight any time we want to look for it, I would suggest that science would disagree.
So you can try any time now to disprove the "afterlife".
those aspects of life 'die' with the person, just like your
car dies when it runs out of gas.
Your heart is a pump, and keeps the energy going all of your life, when
the pump stops pumping, all other parts stop functioning, there is no
energy left to carry on, game over, and the idea that little parts of you
fly out and travel 'somewhere' is ludicrous.
it is humourous how people make up little fairy tales, about
what they think happens to people after they die, wishful
thinking I guess, makes dieing more fun, with the curiosity
of 'what' you will be next time. lol
Your energy, personality and the love you gave etc., do
stay behind, and live in the hearts and minds of those
who loved you, (memories), that is valuable for them, to make their
lives happy without you, just make sure you leave good
thoughts within the persons who loved you, that is the
only control you have over, 'how' you are thought of after
you die.
How very unscientific of "anybody", then. Have scientists not been convinced of the law Sadi Carnot came up with? Science is not the disbelief of anything. It is the method of discovering and describing things.
So where is the evidence that the soul does not live on? Our body is just a vehicle S.J. and that is all, just because the vehicle gives up the ghost has no bearing on the rest of us.
Same place as the evidence that it does: nowhere. There isn't any. The notion that some part of the personality survives the death of the body strikes me as vacuous. If some charlatan like Sylvia Browne or John Edward could correctly answer a single very specific question put to someone who's "passed on" as they call it, the claim might have some traction, but they never do and they're often wrong. Just once, I'd like to see one of them correctly answer something like, "Grandma, we cannot settle your estate without certain legal documents, where did you hide the key to your safety deposit box?" But it's always vague and reassuring platitudes we get from these people: yes I love you, all is forgiven, I'm happy now, just what the credulous want to hear. There's no real information content, and if you know anything about how cold reading and confirmation bias and various other aspects of human psychology work, there are obvious and prosaic explanations for how psychics get satisfied customers. When tested under properly controlled conditions, they fail. Always, 100% of the time, no exceptions. They cannot really do what they claim.
And if you've ever known someone who's had a stroke, a brain tumour, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's... Physical damage to the brain changes the personality. What more evidence do you need that consciousness and personality emerge from the complexity of the brain and do not exist without it?
That is right. Your point is ?...
Edited: Buddhists believe in reincarnation as they commonly understand the word. In their case, it doesn't much matter how we understand it.
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All I see here are a bunch of egos arguing over opinions. Is the ego anything other than a mental/emotional construct?
The truth of the after life is only relative to the beholder. In my experience, I have to say it does - for me. All other opinions are only relevant to the holder.
You are what you think. You will experience exactly what you believe you will. That is what I have come to understand from my experience.
The truth of the after life is only relative to the beholder. In my experience, I have to say it does - for me. All other opinions are only relevant to the holder.
You are what you think. You will experience exactly what you believe you will. That is what I have come to understand from my experience.
Psychics who exploit the gullible are no different than TV evangelists and they all can be found to be frauds.
I will ask the Universe to help my skin grow a bit thicker. I will invoke the Law of Attraction to do this, and a good dose of positive thinking (which is the basis for that Law). In addition to thicker skin, I am looking forward to a side of effect of either a slowdown in, or a complete reversal of, the aging process too. Might as well enjoy the full slate of benefits. ;-)
What a strange life you must have had so far. I've experienced quite a number of things I never believed would happen to me, until they did.
Don't you think it depends on how many times you are reincarnated? I mean, if you really like it here, you may want to be reincarnated numerous times and if you don't, than just one big long 100 years or so will do. ;-) The other side of the coin is, suppose you just don't have the money to travel around and see the world. So - you step out from behind a tree and some damn big logging truck gets you but --- it's successful and so are you. You go to heaven and you don't feel like staying. Your soul pops into another new being in another part of the world and before you know it, you're your own Grampa!
Now you are a different nationality, speaking a different language, and living in a whole new country - until that life ends. Sounds like fun doesn't it?Orrrrr, they is one more side. Longivity has everything to do with it. We do the best we can to live as long as we can (well maybe not the best we can do). Then, according to the way it's supposed to be, we go to heaven where everyone is equal, everyone (according to S. Browne) is about 27 years old (I think she changed that to 32) and no one is ever ill, never needs money, never gets fat, old and on and on. We are supposedly just sitting there waiting for the next person we care about to pop off so that we can meet them and walk around smelling all the daisies together. No jealousy so everyone loves everyone. We can all be flower children. Sounds absolutely marvelous for the first couple of weeks eh? So then what do we do? Go bowling? Are those the "days of thunder"? We can actually have a ball with this thread. :lol:
I thought for along time that this would be my last time around but now I'm aware that I'm nowhere near as enlightened as my ego thought it was.
It always seemed to me that one trip through this planet was not enough to experience all there is to be human:male,female, white, black, brown, red, yellow, civilized, uncivilized, banker, baker, warrior...... way too much to learn about for one lifetime. We won't even get into what it would be like to be other species.
It always seemed to me that one trip through this planet was not enough to experience all there is to be human:male,female, white, black, brown, red, yellow, civilized, uncivilized, banker, baker, warrior...... way too much to learn about for one lifetime. We won't even get into what it would be like to be other species.
When a radio brakes down, it stops broadcasting content because it no longer has the capacity to do so. But the content itself is still received and transmitted by other radios. The existence of the content doesn't depend on the existence of the radio. If there is something eternal about we humans, I believe it is what flows through us rather than us.
Our brains transmit data through human communication but they are above all data receivers. They receive data from the outside world. Doesn't this data exist before the human brain even does? And what is this data made of Dexter Sinister? Matter? Energy? Intelligence itself? All of the above?
I don't have any answers to these questions but here are some thoughts.
From my point of view, it's a blatant fallacy to assume intelligence and consciousness are an exclusively human phenomenon. The fact that we humans are conscious and intelligent is good enough proof to me that consciousness and intelligence are an inherent potentiality of the universe. If it wouldn't be in the nature of the universe to be a breeding ground for intelligence, there would be no humans wondering about what happens when they die.
The potentiality of intelligence existed before life on earth even started and that to me is an unavoidable fact. You simply can't state otherwise. Or at least I don't think you can without making a serious logical mistake.
I don't necessarily think that my personality will survive death, or even a stroke. But I do think that what flows through me will.
In the end, I choose to see the universe itself as what is truly alive and not only myself. It can only be absurd to assume that the universe would lack what we humans have (consciousness and intelligence).
A human death to me is simply like a raindrop falling back into the ocean. It lives on but is necessarily dissolved in the unity of things.