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countryboy

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Why would science, or anything else, have to disprove it? Science makes no claims about an afterlife, but there's no evidence to indicate there is one, notwithstanding people like Sylvia Browne and John Edward who claim to talk with the dead. They've all been busted so many times it's hard to credit that they're still in business. They stand as quite a testament to human credulity. People who claim there's an afterlife must produce the evidence to justify the claim, otherwise the default position, scientifically, philosophically, and logically, is that the claim is false. Read my sig line.

Good point. I was responding to the fact that many people (including scientists) claim there is no afterlife. All I'm saying is, prove it.

Incidentally, human credulity exists everywhere, including science.
 

countryboy

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Which brings to mind the thousands fo people walking the earth today who have been brought back after clinically dead. Does anyone pay attention to what they have to say or is it just dimissed as "utter nonsense"?

Sorry, that has to utter nonsense. Can't be true. No proof. At least, none that a scientist could understand. Falls into the same category as all the other nonsense that has existed in one's imagination until science makes a new breakthrough "discovery." Then it magically moves from "nonsense" to "fact." You gotta' give those scientists time...they might catch up some day.
 

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Countryboy's Commandment (the 11th):

Thou shalt not be offensive in attempts - vain or otherwise - to make one's points. :lol:

Offensive is in the eyes of the beholder, counrtyboy. There should be no personal insults, we can all agree upon that. Other than that, who decides what is offensive?

Suppose I say that Harper is doing a terrible job of governing. Suppose you claim that you are offended by it? Does that mean that I should not say it?

If every time I say something I have worry about offending somebody, I wouldn’t say anything. If I attack Christianity, Christians will be offended, if I attack Islam, Muslims will be offended, if I attack Communism, Communists will be offended, if I attack Nazism, Nazis will be offended and so on.

If somebody has such a thin skin that they get offended by somebody criticizing their worldview, their philosophy, they don’t really belong in this forum.
 

Sporty883

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Ha, ha...I would have thought my previous posts would be proof-positive! (I'm still laughing...) :lol::lol::lol:

My definition of DNA was "Duh, Not Applicable."

Another good one, I will keep this one too if ya'll don't mind...:lol:
Some people in this world are so blinded by arrogance they actually think that everyone is stupid enough to not see underlying insults.
Too funny. I am sure you got a even more quotable quote for such arrogant stupidity towards such a person.
 

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Offensive is in the eyes of the beholder, counrtyboy. There should be no personal insults, we can all agree upon that. Other than that, who decides what is offensive?

Suppose I say that Harper is doing a terrible job of governing. Suppose you claim that you are offended by it? Does that mean that I should not say it?

If every time I say something I have worry about offending somebody, I wouldn’t say anything. If I attack Christianity, Christians will be offended, if I attack Islam, Muslims will be offended, if I attack Communism, Communists will be offended, if I attack Nazism, Nazis will be offended and so on.

If somebody has such a thin skin that they get offended by somebody criticizing their worldview, their philosophy, they don’t really belong in this forum.
lmao Is that why you avoid my posts even when I am not calling you nasty, dirty, foul names like "silly"? roflmao
 

SirJosephPorter

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There is an afterlife of some sort(s). It's true because many people believe it's true. Any other position - such as the absence of an afterlife - will be considered nonsense and not worth bothering about. That is the gospel truth and nothing but the truth, according to Countryboy.

That is your Gospel truth, and you are entitled to it. Incidentally, at one time many people believed that earth was flat, so according to you,r logic presumably that was true (and I assume earth became round all of a sudden, after people started believing that it was round)

If your criteria for deciding that something is true is that many people believe in it, that is a very strange criteria indeed.

And to science, which cannot disprove the fact that there is an afterlife.

Really? Science cannot prove that there is no Santa Clause; does that mean that there is a Santa Claus? Nobody can prove that I haven’t been to Jupiter in the past 20 years. Does that mean that I have been to Jupiter?

You have inadequate understanding as to how science works. If somebody makes a positive statement, the burden of proof is upon them to prove it, not upon somebody who doubts the statement. Thus if somebody claims that there is an afterlife, it is up to him to prove it, not somebody who doubts its existence.
 
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Sporty883

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But you know countryboy, jlm, etc... if the shoe was on the other foot, and insults were reversed to their likes in life, it would of course be a different story, and probably accused of insulting... Funny how that works huh???
have a good day.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Science has uncovered dimethyltriptamine which is a heavy hallucinogen the brain releases to make death an easy transition. This 'trip" is what is known as "going into the light".

Interestingly, some people who have been to death’s door and back report that they were passing through a tunnel of light.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Most people (when three or four people tell them they are wrong) are interested in ferreting out the right answers so they don't come across as a complete nincompoop. I see lots of stuff printed here that I don't agree with, if I can enlighten the person with an explanation, sometimes I do, but I don't just reply with a retort "nonsense".........a statement like that just comes across as arrogant.

Three or four people telling me I am wrong cuts no ice with me, JLM. It will be a dark day indeed when I start believing in afterlife; just because three or four people tell me that I am wrong not to believe in it. And if for not believing in afterlife somebody considers me a nincompoop ands arrogant, hey what is it to me?
 

petros

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Which brings to mind the thousands fo people walking the earth today who have been brought back after clinically dead. Does anyone pay attention to what they have to say or is it just dimissed as "utter nonsense"?
Yup and they describe what people who take dimethyltriptamine experience in labs. It's what produces dreams so every night everyone of us goes on a mind blowing trip identical to the death experience.
 

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Science has uncovered dimethyltriptamine which is a heavy hallucinogen the brain releases to make death an easy transition. This 'trip" is what is known as "going into the light".
I can see stars when I bump my head, too.
 

petros

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But you know countryboy, jlm, etc... if the shoe was on the other foot, and insults were reversed to their likes in life, it would of course be a different story, and probably accused of insulting... Funny how that works huh???
have a good day.
It's a great day Vernus . A great day indeed.

BTW 883 is for how many cubic centimetres the Jap made bottom of the line cheapest hog HD has.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Why would science, or anything else, have to disprove it? Science makes no claims about an afterlife, but there's no evidence to indicate there is one, notwithstanding people like Sylvia Browne and John Edward who claim to talk with the dead. They've all been busted so many times it's hard to credit that they're still in business. They stand as quite a testament to human credulity.

Have you heard of televangelist Peter Popoff, Dexter? He had a popular show on television, where he used to read peoples’ minds, read their ailments, inflections etc, and cure them with faith healing.

Later his show was exposed as fraud, it was clearly demonstrated that somebody was feeding him the information; he wasn’t reading peoples’ minds at all.

His show shut down as a result. But guess what? After a while, he was back in business, he was once again reading peoples’ minds, healing people by faith. And enough suckers still believed in him to keep him in champagne and caviar.

The credulity of people knows no bounds (as is evident by how many people believe in the afterlife).
 

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Thus if somebody claims that there is an afterlife, it is up to him to prove it, not somebody who doubts its existence.
Why does anybody have to prove anything? I believe there is an afterlife and in reincarnation and Karma but I don't care if anybody else believes it or not. That is their business. I am just expressing my belief but I am not saying that people who don't believe are idiots. There are those who think people who think differently than them are idiots (or wrong) but that just seems like an insecurity issue to me.

My beliefs are based on my personal experiences in life. I know that nobody has had the same experiences, so why would I expect them to believe me? I know what I know, nothing more. I have no inclination to prove it to anybody.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Which brings to mind the thousands fo people walking the earth today who have been brought back after clinically dead. Does anyone pay attention to what they have to say or is it just dimissed as "utter nonsense"?

It is dismissed as hallucination, brought on by medications or by the process of losing consciousness.