Should canada have high-speed rail?

countryboy

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"How fast do you drive?"

petros, I would be lying if I said that I obey the posted speed limit.

However, I go with the flow, and on the 401, anywhere between Windor and the Quebec border is about 130km/h. More once in qQuebec on Route 20. And I usually drive untill my tank is emty, abouit 650 kms.

So, Windsor-Montreal about five hours.[/quote]

Jack, I'm sure that was a typo, right? The distance from Windsor-Montreal is about 910 km. Your average speed would have to be 182 km/hr. to do it in 5 hours! That's with traffic slowdowns (lots of those on the 401), pee stops, fuel (I think you might need at least one at those speeds), and oh, perhaps the odd cop stop. I know there isn't a lot of radar on the 401 but the OPP might take exception to a cruising speed of almost 200 km/hr.

So, that was a typo, right?
 

Avro

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juan, opined:

"That is complete horsefeathers. You've obviously never driven it. The Cochihalla hwy, the Hope/Princeton, The Roger's Pass are engineering marvels that any country would be proud of. The no.1 hwy across the prairies is a good road even if it can be a bit monotonous. As is the hwy around the shore of Lake Superior in Ontario.

YJ you should take the drive from Halifax to Port aux Basques. Mind the puddles.."

Yes, I've driven the grossly overpriced Cochohilla. It is comparable to the absolutely FREE I90, I80 and I70 (all through the Rockies) in the united States.

I've driven the Rogers Pass, the Kicking Horse Pass, the Kooteney Pass, the Anarchist Pass as well as highways in Quebec, pretty much all the highways in Ontatio, the Atlantic Provinces and Newfoundland.

So, please be careful about who is spreading horse feathers.

Yeah.....it's you.

Tell me.... how do you drive almost 1000 km's in five hours?
 

YukonJack

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To all: I meant that BURLINGTON to Montreal is five hours of driving.

Until two years ago when I moved to Winnipeg, I used to live in Burlington.

So, my mind is still in the past, from time to time.

My aplogies.

However, I stand by what I wrote in my post #220.
 

countryboy

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To all: I meant that BURLINGTON to Montreal is five hours of driving.

Until two years ago when I moved to Winnipeg, I used to live in Burlington.

So, my mind is still in the past, from time to time.

My aplogies.

No sweat...that makes more sense. (Still would be worried about the OPP stops though...)

Being a Manitoban by birth, I can help you out here - it's not the memory, it's the move to Winnipeg! Between the cold winter winds and the mosquitoes in summer, one's mind starts to get a bit confused! :lol:

Mine is still suffering and I've been away for quite a few years! At least, that's my story and I'm stickin' with it. Now I'm going to hear from all the Manitobans on this...OK, just kidding. It is a great place to live...the four seasons are very distinct. :cool:
 

petros

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"How fast do you drive?"

petros, I would be lying if I said that I obey the posted speed limit.

However, I go with the flow, and on the 401, anywhere between Windor and the Quebec border is about 130km/h. More once in qQuebec on Route 20. And I usually drive untill my tank is emty, abouit 650 kms.

So, Windsor-Montreal about five hours.
If YJ was travelling south west by auto from MTL at 130km/h and a train is travelling north east at 400Km/h From Toronto where do they collide and in which province would you bury the survivors?
 

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"Yes, I've driven the grossly overpriced Cochohilla."- Where would one find that highway?

That brings to mind another highway known as the Coquihalla, which was also grossly over priced to build. Most of it was built between the years 1984 and 1986 but the Social Credit (Conservative) Gov't. The construction was fast tracked so that it could be displayed to the world during Expo 86. Part of the fast tracking included paving at minus 30C. But then that's your Social Credit (Conservative) Gov't.- Lots of show, not so much talent.
 

YukonJack

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"Being a Manitoban by birth, I can help you out here - it's not the memory, it's the move to Winnipeg! Between the cold winter winds and the mosquitoes in summer, one's mind starts to get a bit confused! :lol:

Mine is still suffering and I've been away for quite a few years! At least, that's my story and I'm stickin' with it. Now I'm going to hear from all the Manitobans on this...OK, just kidding. It is a great place to live...the four seasons are very distinct."

countryboy, you are very gracious, recognizing that people my age sometimes make an innocent mistake without wanting to be or wanting to be called, liars.

We moved to Winnipeg, because our daughter moved here, found a job and found the love of her life, and gave us our first grandchild.

And just last September, our second grandchild.

I would not want to live anywhere else.
 

YukonJack

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"If YJ was travelling south west by auto from MTL at 130km/h and a train is travelling north east at 400Km/h From Toronto where do they collide and in which province would you bury the survivors?"

petros, if once in your life you knew what the Hell you're talking about, you would know that there are no level crossing on Hwy 401, anywhere between the Quebec border and Toronto. So, there would NEVER be a train/car collision.

And doing 130km/h is quite reasonable, because EVERYBODY is doing it.
 

countryboy

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"Being a Manitoban by birth, I can help you out here - it's not the memory, it's the move to Winnipeg! Between the cold winter winds and the mosquitoes in summer, one's mind starts to get a bit confused! :lol:

Mine is still suffering and I've been away for quite a few years! At least, that's my story and I'm stickin' with it. Now I'm going to hear from all the Manitobans on this...OK, just kidding. It is a great place to live...the four seasons are very distinct."

countryboy, you are very gracious, recognizing that people my age sometimes make an innocent mistake without wanting to be or wanting to be called, liars.

We moved to Winnipeg, because our daughter moved here, found a job and found the love of her life, and gave us our first grandchild.

And just last September, our second grandchild.

I would not want to live anywhere else.

Jack, I'm likely not far behind you in age...I've been away from Winnipeg for 34 years, and I wasn't a kid when I moved. I like to think we are getting better - like wine - even though we might be a bit "slower on the draw."

Congratulatons on the grandchildren! That's great. They'll grow up to be independent thinkers and real survivors...because you have to be, in those winters! I have lots of relatives and friends in Winnipeg and I love the place. I maintain it has the best "restaurants per capita" in the country. I still miss the Salisbury House breakfasts with the super-duper shredded hashed brown spuds. And their unique wafer pie. And the smoked Goldeye. And the Jewish corned beef sandwiches. And the City Bakery rye bread (if you haven't discovered that, try it...it's off Main st. near Stella Ave - on Dufferin, I think). And the hot dogs and fries up at Kelekis' restaurant on north Main St. Ah, the memories...

Now if they only had a high-speed rail service so you could zing down to Ontario for avisit without worrying about all those speeding tickets! (Couldn't resist...gotta' have a bit of fun even at our advanced ages)...:lol:
 

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"If YJ was travelling south west by auto from MTL at 130km/h and a train is travelling north east at 400Km/h From Toronto where do they collide and in which province would you bury the survivors?"

petros, if once in your life you knew what the Hell you're talking about, you would know that there are no level crossing on Hwy 401, anywhere between the Quebec border and Toronto. So, there would NEVER be a train/car collision.

And doing 130km/h is quite reasonable, because EVERYBODY is doing it.

That takes the prize as the funniest post of the day.
 

petros

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And doing 130km/h is quite reasonable, because EVERYBODY is doing it.
Which other laws are unreasonable while driving a 2t vehicle illegally with immensely exponential inertia compared to those who drive within the law?
 

countryboy

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"If YJ was travelling south west by auto from MTL at 130km/h and a train is travelling north east at 400Km/h From Toronto where do they collide and in which province would you bury the survivors?"

petros, if once in your life you knew what the Hell you're talking about, you would know that there are no level crossing on Hwy 401, anywhere between the Quebec border and Toronto. So, there would NEVER be a train/car collision.

And doing 130km/h is quite reasonable, because EVERYBODY is doing it.

And...if you had a collision at those speeds, I think the biggest challenge would be finding the body parts and deciding which parts belong to whom.

Yep, level crossings on the 401? Hell, I can't even remember a conventional intersection on it. The Collector and Express lanes across Toronto and the "new-fangled cloverleaf things" on the other parts kinda' eliminate the need for that sort of thing.
 

countryboy

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Which other laws are unreasonable while driving a 2t vehicle illegally with immensely exponential inertia compared to those who drive within the law?

Common sense kind of rules on the 401, especially the busiest sections. The OPP doesn't use radar on those sections, nor do they pull over traffic that is moving smoothly, even if it is above the speed limit. It's a lot different than Saskatchewan.
 

petros

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Common sense kind of rules on the 401, especially the busiest sections. The OPP doesn't use radar on those sections, nor do they pull over traffic that is moving smoothly, even if it is above the speed limit. It's a lot different than Saskatchewan.
I know it very well thanks.

How many trips out ten when travelling the 401 corridor are not delayed due to a fatal accident in GOOD weather?
 

YukonJack

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"TP &JY? So? Where do you bury the survivors?"

I can't speak for TenPenny, (no normal person, including him/herself could) but I wonder, petros: why would you want to bury the survivors?