Should canada have high-speed rail?

JLM

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I would expect from those proposing a CANADIAN high speed rail that it would be IN Canada. If it can't be built and run profitably, in Canada, then we don't do it.

Yep, I agree totally. I sure wouldn't agree to my tax dollars being spent to build a line in the U.S.
 

Machjo

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Yep, I agree totally. I sure wouldn't agree to my tax dollars being spent to build a line in the U.S.

But what about your tax dollars going towards building the Canadian side of a line while the US would pay for its side? It could be a win win situation in larger population centres.
 

gerryh

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But what about your tax dollars going towards building the Canadian side of a line while the US would pay for its side? It could be a win win situation in larger population centres.

why should anybody's tax dollars pay for any of it?
 

Machjo

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Of course if negotiations could take too long, then a Montreal-Toronto line could be a good start in that it would not need any international negotiations yet would still cover a fairly highly densely populated region.
 

JLM

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But what about your tax dollars going towards building the Canadian side of a line while the US would pay for its side? It could be a win win situation in larger population centres.

Under normal circumstances I couldn't see a problem with that.
 

Machjo

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why should anybody's tax dollars pay for any of it?

Good question. I'd certainly be open to ideas there. One issue is that with any transportation line, be it a road, a railway, etc, it's bound to cross many people's paths, thus affecting even those who do not use it. For example, if you build a highway across a neighbourhood, all of a sudden it might hinder pedestrians and cyclists who previously had no highway to cross. From that standpoint, it certainly makes it a community issue to even decide whether or not to build such a line, and how it might affect those whose communities it might cross, with special consideration for those it might affect the most (such as those living right next to the line, etc.).

Now even if we agree to build it, then the question is, who should pay for it. One possibility I suppose would be to make Via Rail pay for it out of its profits, if it wishes to do so. So then not only must the community agree to building it, but Via Rail too. And if it agrees to building it, then how do we pay for it? I suppose making Via pay for it is one option. Alternatively, some kind of resource tax. Or some combination of them? I don't know.
 

JLM

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Of course if negotiations could take too long, then a Montreal-Toronto line could be a good start in that it would not need any international negotiations yet would still cover a fairly highly densely populated region.

Would Ottawa - Montreal make more sense for starters?
 

Machjo

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Just one point about paying for it though. If for example we build a Toronto to Montreal line, I don't see why Albertans shoud have to pay for it necessarily, or at least they should not have to pay as much towards it. On that front, requiring Via Rail to pay for it would have the advantage of making it more user pay by essentially making those who actually use rail to pay for it. Though this is just an idea and I'd certainly be open to others.