Haiti suffers devastation and religious low life's take advantage of suffering (polis

karrie

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Hi Karrie- Now you have me worried. I always thought that the Salvation Army was an honourable and trustworthy charity, but of course I don't have any proof. The term "religious lowlife" is a bit of an oxymoron to me (generally speaking)- a better term would be "lowlife masquerading as religious". Could you please clafify. Have a good day.

The Salvation Army is a church. I don't know much about them besides that. But they do great work. If someone wants to think they're lowlifes based on one side of the coin, then so be it. They're welcome to their judgements I suppose.
 

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The Salvation Army is a church. I don't know much about them besides that. But they do great work. If someone wants to think they're lowlifes based on one side of the coin, then so be it. They're welcome to their judgements I suppose.

I'm not sure they did (that original post is far too long and rambling, so I didn't read a lot of it). I just gave Sally Ann as one example of where people could be confident sending their money. Some people don't understand the difference between a "post" and a frickin "book".................................:lol:
 

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When man pissed off the gods by misusing fire, the gods sought their revenge by inventing religion!
And they knew not what they had done. Now its an even bigger mess. lol So much for godlike prescience.
I don't know what you guys are all feisty for unless it's just having a new toy to play with.
DJS can't write English legibly, his assumptions abound with error, and he cannot reply to legitimate arguments.
IOW, just another lame bigot.
We have been using the Sally Ann as a reasonable charity for a long time. There's the odd skunk that gets into the chicken coop, but that can happen with any charity and eventually they are turfed out and charged.
 

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Jealous?

hehehehe (kidding)


Nope. You ALREADY HAVE me.!! Nothing "another" there.
;-)

Speakin of churches, though:

The Sally Ann
United Church
Anglican Church
Catholic Church
Just for egs., already have/had people on the ground pre earthquake, delivering humanitarian aid. And, of course, religion.
The only one of which I"m personally knowledgeable, is the Anglican church, and 100% of all it's aid dollars get to the 'needy'. All their people are already paid a salary (except for volunteers, which are of course, volunteers), by the church, and the need to scam and skim money from the victims is non existant.

Just saying; no financial interest. Just like drinking raw milk, one is free to donate wherever they wish.............or not.

:canada:(Harpo sucks!)
 

JLM

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Nope. You ALREADY HAVE me.!! Nothing "another" there.
;-)

Speakin of churches, though:

The Sally Ann
United Church
Anglican Church
Catholic Church
Just for egs., already have/had people on the ground pre earthquake, delivering humanitarian aid. And, of course, religion.
The only one of which I"m personally knowledgeable, is the Anglican church, and 100% of all it's aid dollars get to the 'needy'. All their people are already paid a salary (except for volunteers, which are of course, volunteers), by the church, and the need to scam and skim money from the victims is non existant.

Just saying; no financial interest. Just like drinking raw milk, one is free to donate wherever they wish.............or not.

:canada:(Harpo sucks!)

I'm sure you are right, I doubt if the problem is with the churches per se, as long as you make a cheque out to the church and stipulate for charity. Don't hand a "representative" of the church a bunch of cash. (There could be a hole in his pocket and he could lose it) :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

darkbeaver

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After watching Frontline on PBS last night, I'm with you on condemning the banker lowlifes. Scumbags with a license to steal.

I guess they have all the well used license they need in the fleets and the gold and the book of how to efficiently exploit the human resource. The scumbags we see and hear are the kings tax collectors. Theft is the least of their crimes against nature, in my opinion. "Hati suffers" that isn't news is it? Hati will suffer more, if that's possible.
 

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Karrie wrote:


"Ignored the facts? No... I started ignoring YOU. The speaker. It doesn't matter what facts you have. You are delivering them in hate filled spew. I don't want to sift through the vomit to get to facts. I don't listen to religious people who spread their message via hate, and I won't listen to the non-religious who do either. Evangelical ranting is not my cuppa."


Well this is certainly been made extremely easy by Karrie herself demonstrating she really has no clue what she is saying by this excerpt from that very quote:


"Ignored the facts? No... I started ignoring YOU. The speaker. It doesn't matter what facts you have."


You see how obvious it is that she denies ignoring the facts yet at the same time she admits to deliberately ignore the facts towards the very article she is responding too thus reveals obviously that she is clearly lying in defense of religion but then again I can't say it surprises me considering that is primarily what religion teaches people. Clearly an example to say the least that ignorance is religions only defense. Then after revealing her delusional mind set makes yet another vacant un backed claim, in desperate attempt to make what is into what she would rather it be because quite simply when it comes to the non contestable facts which back my claims she has no leg to stand on so she attempts to make me out to be a hater.


Again I love and care about the life on this planet which is exactly why I fight for the well being of the future of this planet by sharing simple fact in this case which proves that the very fundamental of every religion is based upon lies. Not only that but I deeply concerns me that for thousands of years such lies have been used by the greedy and the selfish to take advantage of those from a time of weakness for power and control over the many and has lead the globe to war and divide for thousands of years and that this sick nightmare of brain disease known as religion is still going on! To top it off for backing my claims I get the pleasure of watching the selfish and the greedy squirm with ignorance towards hat fact so easily proves all the while trying to make me out to be the bad guy with no more that vacant un backed claims. In this instance Karrie is trying to make me out to be something I am not with no more than a vacant un backed claim because Karrie, like every other person in the world, is not able to contest the very facts which back my claims which reveals every religion for what it really is, and that it's obviously a long time coming to stop war and divide over such disgusting lies as any religion is factually proven to be based upon.


Your so called opinions and delusions mean absolutely nothing in contestion of these very facts Karrie and thanks for sharing you fine examples that ignorance is religions only defense.




Petros wrote:


"Would it still work under those perimeters if religion wasn't included?


Yes or no?"


The answer is quite obviously no because after all it is called Age Of Mythology! I mean how duh are these so called responses going to get?


Oh don't tell me you are implying that I ever claimed religion was the only source of war and divide? I mean if you are I would have expected you to show me the quote for me to even take you seriously. And don't bother trying to give me the old "don't put the murderer in jail because there are plenty of murderers out there and going to murder anyway" speech in defense of religion because I'm telling you now you'd be wasting your time.


Perhaps you will wise up and realize I have been through all this before so you might actually want to take he time to think before you write a response.


Here is yet another spew of obvious jibber from Karrie:




"or, you must have been raped to be religious. Neither makes a lick of sense.


You give vacant crap that makes no sense, you'll get it back. This forum is wonderful for that.


If you came in and talked about your reasons you felt there is no God, and no basis for religion, without making it all about how horrible religious PEOPLE are, you likely would have gotten a lively discussion from quite a few science minded folks and religious folks alike.


But you didn't. And I doubt you ever will."


For anything to make sense to you Karrie you first might want to strive for a more coherent brain otherwise your brain remains delusional as you have already demonstrated.


Where did I ever only claim one had to be raped to be religious? Being raped is only one of the many "times of weakness" when the religious get their selfish greedy little meat hooks in you as I clearly demonstrated within the very article beginning this very thread. To no surprise Karrie ignores that it is only one of the clearly demonstrated times of weakness within the very article to which she responds and instead desperately scrambles to put words into my mouth with no more than the impositions of her clearly demonstrated delusions.


an excerpt from that very quote:


"You give vacant crap that makes no sense, you'll get it back. This forum is wonderful for that."


Well if what I share makes no sense then obviously you will have no problem giving just one factual example of anything being able to go poof into existence out of nothingness? Oh, what's this? You can't contradict the very fundamental non contestable factual evidence proving that every religion is based upon a fundamental of lies.


Or perhaps you claim that Jesus being killed for spewing his religious lies to those of other religious lies thus a fine example of religion leading to war and divide?


You obviously demonstrate to be the one who';s full of crap and in this instance crap being vacant un backed claims because quite simply ignorance is religion only defense.


I didn't come to discuss reasons I felt there is no god, I came to share the very non contestable factual evidence which proves beyond any shadow of doubt that there is no such thing as a god and that every religions fundamental is based upon factually proven lies. Something I notice you avoid contesting at every cost and again is simply because ignorance towards fact is religions only defense.


Then we have Greenfish who wrote:


"I will agree on 1 thing...You don't have to believe in religion in order to believe in something greater than 1 self..Us all..(God? or whatever you call IT.)


I will agree on 1 thing...You don't have to believe in religion in order to believe in something greater than 1 self..Us all..(God? or whatever you call it.)


It's built into the system we all live in/on....


If only we knew then what we know now...


Good thing we have learned How to Read/ understand/Predict the future a little betters. to the past and right now we're in the present...on line..


Wow ...All I can say is ...You said a mouthful ..David.Jeffrey.S


Otherwise I'm speechless


All the best to you on your journey into the future..


Gotta have faith."


When it comes to us all I mean the life on the planet something that factually does exist and trying to compare us all with something factually proven not to exist just to promote religious factually proven lies is quite the insult to the life on this planet! When I say us all I mean us all not some factually proven lie!


and faith at least does exist for I have faith in my abilities (something that is factually proven to exist for I am able and demonstrating) to get through to the world the non contestable factual evidence which proves that the fundamental of every religion is based upon lies thus putting an end to this sick cycle of corruption of war and divide over such lies manifested within society which obvously have existed so the greedy can can take advantage of those from a time of weakness for power and control over the many by using such disgusting lowly decietfull lies!


Having faith in the abilities of things factually proven to exist is at least acceptable. Having faith in something factually proven not to exist is ignorance!


Oh and just so that the sleeper is clear on this, I never claimed to know everything, I do not know the president or prime minster of China's name is for example ;)


I learn more everyday, such as how much easier it gets day by day to plow through such drivel I see such as so called responses left for me here.


Karrie wrote:


"I especially like how he explains the flaw behind the term 'homophobe'. Oh no... no hate in this guy."


There is no such thing as a homophobe Karrie but this is obviously not the place for that discussion. Rest assured I will sometime in the near future be willing and ready to drop an article here with of course sharing the very non contestable factual evidence which simply proves that there is no such thing asa homophobe, then I suppose it would be more appropriate for the subject to be addressed there rather then to use it as yet another excuse to exemplify yet another example that ignorance is religions only defense on this thread. And here you go calling me a hater for standing up for heterosexuals who are being slandered with a name by those who whine and cry about being called names in the first place. So sad for you that you are so transparent and you are obviously clueless as to how transparent you really are.


Again Karrie wrote:


"We haven't forgotten anything beaver. We still know to band together as a tribe and beat the snot out of the people who don't walk or grunt or wear the same animal skins as us. We still know to take what we want and destroy what we don't.


We have added to what we used to know, expanded it an infinitesimal amount every generation, so that now we try not to beat the others as often. Try to recycle a bit instead of destroy what we're done with. Try to reach out and give a little more. Allow different view points. Small change in small ways, small bits at a time.


Some of us anyway."


Well that's funny because quite simply no matter how many of you there are, not one of you contests the very factual evidence which proves every religion is based upon a fundamental of lies which really reveals to have the same effect as one of you. Numbers mean nothing when it comes to contesting fact and in this instance makes it extremely easy for me to gang up on all of you no matter how many of you squirm out from under the rug exemplifying ignorance as religions only defense time and time again.


Yet again another segment from Karrie:


"Now I really can't help but raise a red flag when I hear people walking that path... attempting to belittle, demonize, or dismiss an entire segment of society. It treads the path of history, and bothers me that more people don't hear it and recognize it."




Ok first of all she chooses a religious garbage word I care not even to acknowledge beyond mentioning it's immoral value and irrelevance. I reveal how these people have been belittling themselves by quite simply sharing the very factual evidence that proves it. That very evidence which is clearly illustrated within the very article beginning this very thread that Karrie continues to avoid because Karrie has no leg to stand on and again Karrie instead desperately scrambles to make what is into what she would rather it be just top suit her own selfish means. Karrie is apparently ok with the greedy and the selfish taking advantage of those from a time of weakness for power and control over the many by fabricating lies as truth and belief which has lead the globe to thousands of years of war and divide. I think that pretty much makes clear how much Karrie can be trusted and how selfish Karrie really is.






Cliffy wrote:


"Warning: Please do not feed the nut jobs!
Thank you - the management."


Oh it's no trouble, it is really my pleasure to feed the nut jobs with a dose of fact it is of course in part how I plan to accomplish my primary directive which is all for the well being fo the future of the life on th planet as I so clearly demonstrate. They obviously need it to get them away from the lies which have them pretty much brainwashed for now. No sweat ;)


darkbeaver wrote and were at message 53 now:


"There are religious lowlifes, are we supposed to excuse the other heavyweight scumbags like journalistic lowlifes, military lowlifes, financial lowlifes or the newly popular herds of non denominational lowlifes. I think the author of the OP should prioritize his list of scumbags. That is not to say that organized religion isn't a very suitable bucket to spew bile into but he should realize that lowlifes have long ago branched out into secular pastures. Maybe his flics mentioned that, if so,"

Thanks for sharing yet another example that ignorance is religions only defense but since you brought it up I do fight for mandatory education on governing ways kindergarten throughout high school which really is part of the entire solution in bringing as sense of understanding to our societies instead of suffering from ignorance greed and selfishness in this age of manipulation we now life.


I will likely drop an article on this subject here sometime in the near future ... I've already written hundreds over the last decade. It will obviously be an appropriate place to have such a discussion. There are some video's as some of you appear to be potentially aware of.


Karrie again writes:


"They spend some time ranting about how disgusting gays are. They spend some time ripping on transsexuals. So I suppose you could say he's branched out into the 'lowlifes' that are outside religion (in his mind at least)"


Which is yet another example that ignorance is religions only defense yet notice she does not lend an ounce of contradiction to the very fundamental non contestable facts which back my claims. First of all this is not the appropriate place for the discussion however trashing marriage, referring to sexual orientation etc. as an equal or human right when non contestable fact proves it is not thus messing with the heads of millions or even billions with such ignorance is completely disgusting! Just because you are ignorant towards what facts which back my claims prove Karrie doesn't make me anything less than someone who cares abut the well being of the future of the life on this planet. By the way, what makes a man a man is that the man was born with a penis. What kind of man the man turns out to be is determined by the course of actions in the mans life. What makes a woman a woman is that the woman was born with a vagina. What kind of woman the woman turns out to be is determined by the course of actions in the womans life. A man with an inverted penis is nothing more than a man with an inverted penis just like a woman with an ex verted vagina is nothing more than a woman with an ex verted vagina and it is absolutely disgusting that these selfish individuals use such deceit just to take advantage of unsuspecting heterosexuals! There is no such thing as a sex change and it is highly offensive that people for now are getting away with such deceit against unsuspecting heterosexuals! Again, I will likely post something on that subject in an article where it can be discussed in the appropriate place instead of you using it as well as yet another excuse to exemplify yet another example that ignorance is religions only defense here on this thread.




Karrie wrote:


I'm not quite sure what part of the postings you're replying to here JLM, but, if it's the fact that religious groups are going into Haiti, and you don't like it, then you might want to scratch the Salvation Army off your list of approved charities.


Why would someone support religion taking advantage of those in a time of weakness by fabricating lies as truth and belief which has lead the globe to war and divide for thousands of years and in this case the starving / homeless when they can support organizations that are not trying to take advantage of those from a time of weakness, those who just want to help and not attribute that help to a fundamental of factually proven lies which have lead the globe to war and divide for thousands of years! It is sad really they have public food drives for the food banks only to have many of these religious organizations take from the food banks only to promote their lies upon those in their time of weakness when starving when distributing public food donations as religious gifts.


If you want to help people that is nice it really is, but if your doing it to promote factually proven lies which have lead the globe to war and divide for thousands of years in support of the greedy and th selfish taking advantage of those from a time of weakness for power and control over the many that is quite obviously an inexcusable disgrace to abuse society with such rhetoric!




JLM writes:


"Hi Karrie- Now you have me worried. I always thought that the Salvation Army was an honorable and trustworthy charity, but of course I don't have any proof. The term "religious lowlife" is a bit of an oxymoron to me (generally speaking)- a better term would be "lowlife masquerading as religious". Could you please clarify. Have a good day."


What makes the religious low life's is that they value a factually proven following of lies which have lead the globe to war and divide for thousands of years just to support the greedy and the selfish in taking advantage of those from a time of weakness for power and control over the many more that these religious people obviously value the well being of the future of the life on this planet and non contestable factual evidence proves it is indeed being carrying such a low morality to continue being religious is what clearly defines them as low life.


So you see, at at least I take the time to demonstrate factual examples which back my claims because I'm not ignorant when it comes to the fundamentals of the issues I address to say the least on my own behalf.


again every single one of them avoids the very non contestable factual evidence proving every religion is based upon a fundamental of lies, and instead desperately scrambles to make anything else the issue, squirms to try and make what is into what they would rather it be with no more than vacant un backed claims all the while demonstrating time and time again what I already know and what I have been sharing all along with you which is the simple fact that ignorance towards fact is religions only defense. Ignorance greed and selfishness go hand in hand which the responses I have been getting so clearly demonstrate.


I'll come to a close in this response with an excerpt from the very article beginning this very thread:


"The greedy and the selfish religious obviously will try and do anything just to be able to continue to take advantage of those from a time of weakness by fabricating lies as truth and belief for power and control over the many."


because as people who have responded to the very article beginning this very thread has demonstrated exactly as that quotation clearly points out!


In other words, been through it all so many times with so many religious I already know what the greedy and selfish ignorant religious are already capable of.


I love backing claims with fact and do you think you know why? It is quite simply because when it comes to fact there is no argument, there is only recognition of fact or ignorance towards fact and for those greedy and selfish always choose ignorance towards fact until come the day they open their eyes to the fools they so obviously reveal themselves to be and actually develop a conscience.


and I certainly hope you don't expect me to feel obligated to keep answering for your ignorance! Why not even try addressing the fundamental of this issue instead? Are you way to weak, way to blinded by selfishness, greed and ignorance?


Anyone can come here and see for themselves that out of every response not one response addresses the very fundamental of this issue, and that is quite simply because they are not able to contest what factual evidence backing the fundamental claims made within the very article beginning this very thread proves. This is exactly why they are trying to make me out to be something I am not, as well scrambling to make anything else the issue and that is simply because they are stupid enough to think that by bashing me it somehow hides the facts they so deliberately / obviously avoid because their lies fabricated as truth and belief crumble when pit vs. fact every time! I want to thank them for backing the claim I made as examples that ignorance is religions only defense. Bet they had no clue they were being used in such a way but I got to admit it looks good on them!


So here we have war and divide over a factually proven following of lies for thousands of years just so that the greedy can continue to take advantage of those from a time of weakness for power and control over the many. Then we have me here to put an end to such nonsense but to top it off we have people trying to make me out to be the bad guy for putting an end to such nonsense and again with no more than vacant un backed claims. They obviously want more people to suffer war and divide over such disgusting lies and I'm the bad guy according to their vacant un backed claims. Uh yeah right. How could anyone possibly feel trust with these people?!! They obviously lack something called a conscience.


Go ahead and root through all the responses because not one of them addresses the very fundamentals of this issue as clearly made claims back by non contestable fact demonstrate within the very article beginning this very thread! Again don't be surprised, just be aware.


David Jeffrey Spetch
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karrie

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Mr. Spetch. Welcome back. I was worried you'd left and the laughter was gone from the forum for good.
 

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The problem is not the socalled religious 'low lifes' but the criminals that are looting, stealing, raping and kidnapping children. These are the people who are the problem and the army needs to take care of them.
 

karrie

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The problem is not the socalled religious 'low lifes' but the criminals that are looting, stealing, raping and kidnapping children. These are the people who are the problem and the army needs to take care of them.

Amen to that.

I think db put it best when he said that lowlives of all sorts will go in and capitalize in their own way on a bad situation.
 

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Although I obviously include a complete example in the majority of my articles, I keep still the ignorant pious (, who ignorance is only defense of the religions), me over over " ask; From where do energy and affair of David come? " Well again, after it is the question, which you can now recognize this proof which is based on facts, not contentiously placed, because the lies, which as truth and faith is produced, if pit against fact each mark zerbröckeln. If you examine this energy, affair and if you (three things, which exist being based on facts) set, always were, it is and always becomes its is that she treats affair of energy being based on facts and time to the RH causes energy and constitutes time firmly. In other words is the proof very much which is based on facts, which examines it the fact that all Poof does not enter out into consisting of Nichtse, because it treats the fact remnants affair of energy and time to the RH causes energy and constitutes. Also nothing, which exists, rises Poof in nothing, because the fact remains the fact that it affair of energy treated and time to the RH causes energy in and constitutes.
 

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Although I obviously include a complete example in the majority of my articles, I keep still the ignorant pious (, who ignorance is only defense of the religions), me over over " ask; From where do energy and affair of David come? " Well again, after it is the question, which you can now recognize this proof which is based on facts, not contentiously placed, because the lies, which as truth and faith is produced, if pit against fact each mark zerbröckeln. If you examine this energy, affair and if you (three things, which exist being based on facts) set, always were, it is and always becomes its is that she treats affair of energy being based on facts and time to the RH causes energy and constitutes time firmly. In other words is the proof very much which is based on facts, which examines it the fact that all Poof does not enter out into consisting of Nichtse, because it treats the fact remnants affair of energy and time to the RH causes energy and constitutes. Also nothing, which exists, rises Poof in nothing, because the fact remains the fact that it affair of energy treated and time to the RH causes energy in and constitutes.

What are you smoking? I want some!