Pat Robertson: Haiti ‘Cursed’ By ‘Pact To The Devil’

[coldstream]

Pat Robertson should read his Bible in Satan's temptations of Christ in the Wilderness.

Satan's temptations were of turning stone to bread (an allusion to worldly wealth and comfort), to jump from a pinnacle (for supremacy of a magical worldly church), for the throne of kingdoms (for political power).

You cannot find a country less wealthy, and worldly and powerful than Haiti. So there seems to be no evidence of any deal with the Devil.

The good old U.S. of A. though has acquired all those things, great wealth and grotesque consumption. The American Social Church, of which Robertson is a scion, is a product of Calvinistic Puritanism and the Deism of the Enlightenment, as material, worldly and pragmatic as you can get in religion. The political power of empire, backed by immense military force is obvious.

It seems Pat Robertson should be looking closer to home for evidence of 'pacts with the Devil'. And the rewards and punishments are not of this world. ;-)

 

[Ron in Regina]

I haven't read through the last four pages, & I'm not going to unless I have
to.....but on the Topic of Dumb reasons given (like Pat Robertson's) for
this tragedy hitting Haiti....wades in the Actor "Danny Glover:"

Haiti disaster caused by failure of Copenhagen summit – says actor Danny Glover – Telegraph Blogs

Glover comes in at about one minute into the video in the above link...

“What happened in Haiti could happen to anywhere in the Caribbean because all these island nations are in peril because of global warming.”
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“When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I’m saying? We have to act now!”
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Sorry if I've offended anyone with the above post. I though it was as ridiculous as
the stuff that Pat Robertson was spouting. Similar flavor, but different direction.

Nobodies blamed this Haiti disaster on Aliens or Area 51 yet? The CIA using
the "Nikola Tesla Earthquake Machine"? Etc...

 

[darkbeaver]

Before you start blithering nonsense you should check your facts. Billy Graham was raised Presbyterian.

Moses was raised Egyption, what is your point.

 

[AnnaG]

Moses was raised Egyption, what is your point.

You should lay off the pot, Beav. It is affecting your memory. Risus was correcting a post you made earlier mentioning that Graham was Jewish.

 

[darkbeaver]

You should lay off the pot, Beav. It is affecting your memory. Risus was correcting a post you made earlier mentioning that Graham was Jewish.

thankyou, he was a jew

 

[Nuggler]

Pat Robertson is a moron and an embarassment to other evangelists.

Mostly they're all embarassments. Rich morons.

 

[Downhome_Woman]

Billy Ghaham was not a Christian, but he did make lots of money off the bizz. I read somewhere that Billy was in fact a Jew.

Huh? You may have heard that but you should have checked - hope you weren't serious. I don't ususally refer to Wikipedia unless they quote their sources, but this is what they said;
"Born on a dairy farm near Charlotte, North Carolina, Billy Graham was raised in the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church by his parents, Morrow Coffey and William Franklin Graham. In 1933, when Prohibition in the United States ended, Graham's father forced Graham and his sister Katherine to drink beer until they vomited, which created a lifelong aversion, in both of them, to alcohol and drugs.[5] According to the Billy Graham Center, Billy Graham was converted in 1934 during a series of revival meetings in Charlotte which were led by evangelist Mordecai Ham.[6]"
On top of that, while he was a registered Democrat, he didn't 'support' any particular political party. he didn't support Jerry Faldwell and his so called 'Moral Majority'- he said, ""I'm for morality, but morality goes beyond sex to human freedom and social justice. We as clergy know so very little to speak with authority on the Panama Canal or superiority of armaments. Evangelists cannot be closely identified with any particular party or person. We have to stand in the middle in order to preach to all people, right and left. I haven't been faithful to my own advice in the past. I will be in the future."
He was against segregation and strongly supported Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. He was also anti aparteid.
I don't espouse his religious beliefs, but he seems to have been a sincere, good man - unlike the Faldwells and many of the other so called 'Christian' evangelists that like to think that they represent what it is to be Christian.
Oh - he really wasn't Jewish.

 

[Downhome_Woman]

Moses was raised Egyption, what is your point.

"Egyption' (do you mean Egyptian?) isn't a religion. And he may have been raised by the pan-theistic Egyptians, from what I've read in my Bible, it seems that both he and everyone else in Egypt knew where he came from. Just like I (and most others here) know that Billy Graham wasn't Jewish.
Please - PLEASE - tell me you aren't just trying to take the micky on this one!

 

[mt_pockets1000]

But Downhome what kind of message are these televangelists preaching? Most of them are racking in incredible amounts of money. They are fleecing little old ladies out of their retirement money. It's highway robbery!

 

[Bar Sinister]

Mr. Robertson appears to be up to his usual misguided nonsense. This is a man who has made millions fleecing the gullible and who has supported almost every ring wing cause that exists in the USA. No one should take anything he says seriously. It is entirely likely that he couldn't even find Haiti on a map.

 

[darkbeaver]

"Egyption' (do you mean Egyptian?) isn't a religion. And he may have been raised by the pan-theistic Egyptians, from what I've read in my Bible, it seems that both he and everyone else in Egypt knew where he came from. Just like I (and most others here) know that Billy Graham wasn't Jewish.
Please - PLEASE - tell me you aren't just trying to take the micky on this one!

Egyptian of course that's how to spell it. I get these spelling blocks more frequently now. You are what you eat, ole Billy ate at the Israel Cafe. You can't judge a book by it's cover, you have to read the words, and the words were always Cadillac and Israel.

 

[El Barto]

Egyptian of course that's how to spell it. I get these spelling blocks more frequently now. You are what you eat, ole Billy ate at the Israel Cafe. You can't judge a book by it's cover, you have to read the words, and the words were always Cadillac and Israel.

Leave it to Beaver
I want what your having :lol:

 

[Downhome_Woman]

But Downhome what kind of message are these televangelists preaching? Most of them are racking in incredible amounts of money. They are fleecing little old ladies out of their retirement money. It's highway robbery!

Hey I agree with you! But I think that Billy Graham was not like most evangelists - and he wasn't a Jew - that was my point.:smile:

 

[El Barto]

Hey I agree with you! But I think that Billy Graham was not like most evangelists - and he wasn't a Jew - that was my point.:smile:

The Jew comment was more aimed at his character than actually being one. Basically an insult.

 

[Downhome_Woman]

Egyptian of course that's how to spell it. I get these spelling blocks more frequently now. You are what you eat, ole Billy ate at the Israel Cafe. You can't judge a book by it's cover, you have to read the words, and the words were always Cadillac and Israel.

Can you be a little less good ole' bubba nudge nudge wink wink stuff and actually come out and say what you mean?
Are you really saying that because he supported Israel he was a money grubbing Jew? Because that's what you sound like you're saying. If that's your logic, it must stand that because he supported Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and was anti-aparteid, he must have been black.
Oh wait! He couldn't have been! Because we all know that just as all Jews are money grubbing, all blacks are on welfare! Help! The contradiction! It's confusing me!

 

[El Barto]

Looks like Downhome woman is ummm getting Down 8O

:smile:

 

[Downhome_Woman]

The Jew comment was more aimed at his character than actually being one. Basically an insult.

Yeah - figured that one out in a jiffy!:lol:

 

[El Barto]

Yeah - figured that one out in a jiffy!:lol:

DW, ummmmm do you bake? :smile:

 

[Downhome_Woman]

DW, ummmmm do you bake? :smile:

Actually I'm just about to bake a batch of Mandelbrot (I'll finish it off by dipping it in Maneshevitz and then sugar) - never made it before but the recipe looked 'real good', as they say in Alabama!:grin:

 

[El Barto]

Actually I'm just about to bake a batch of Mandelbrot (I'll finish it off by dipping it in Maneshevitz and then sugar) - never made it before but the recipe looked 'real good', as they say in Alabama!:grin:

That sounds jewish 8O What the hell is that .
By saying HELL i am staying on topic
I am actually looking for some fresh Bunns , was hoping you would help me hahahahaha