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[SirJosephPorter]

Sorry bud but I'll take the words of the elders over a media piece everytime.

Hope you understand why.

Well, let us agree to disagree on that. I say many Inuits think that Arctic is warming up (based upon the numerous articles in the literature); you say Arctic is either not warming or cooling (based upon your personal experience). Let us leave it at that.

Indeed, I haven't seen even one serious, scientific article which shows that Arctic is either not warming or is cooling.

 

[JLM]

Sorry bud but I'll take the words of the elders over a media piece everytime.

Hope you understand why.

But those media people quote statistics. :smile::smile:

 

[SirJosephPorter]

But those media people quote statistics. :smile::smile:

Indeed they quote statistics, which are much more reliable than anecdotal experience. But in this case, there is plenty of anecdotal experience as well, from Inuits themselves as to the warming of the Arctic. The link I have given says the following:

“Hundreds of Inuit are meeting in Alaska this week to discuss global warming and other matters critical to their survival. Shiela Watt Cloutier, the chairwoman of the Inuit Circumpolar Conference, talks with Alex Chadwick about how global warming has impacted life in the north.”

 

[lone wolf]

Indeed they quote statistics, which are much more reliable than anecdotal experience. But in this case, there is plenty of anecdotal experience as well, from Inuits themselves as to the warming of the Arctic. The link I have given says the following:

“Hundreds of Inuit are meeting in Alaska this week to discuss global warming and other matters critical to their survival. Shiela Watt Cloutier, the chairwoman of the Inuit Circumpolar Conference, talks with Alex Chadwick about how global warming has impacted life in the north.”

...and what rewards does your friend hope to reap from the climatic gravy train? Playing systems and trends aren't new gimmicks. Investors have long played them.

 

[Kakato]

But those media people quote statistics. :smile::smile:

Skewed stats,I will believe what I hear in the northen store or the restaraunt or the many I have lived with there,not some internet arctic armchair quarterback.

I have yet to meet any Inuk that would agree with you except for a small handfull but thats to be expected.
Check out my arctic pics if you want to see what life is really like up there.
I have been around,you obviously havent.

 

[Kakato]

Indeed they quote statistics, which are much more reliable than anecdotal experience. But in this case, there is plenty of anecdotal experience as well, from Inuits themselves as to the warming of the Arctic. The link I have given says the following:

“Hundreds of Inuit are meeting in Alaska this week to discuss global warming and other matters critical to their survival. Shiela Watt Cloutier, the chairwoman of the Inuit Circumpolar Conference, talks with Alex Chadwick about how global warming has impacted life in the north.”

Ha ha ha! agenda my friend,a true Inuk would never solve government matters in Alaska as they dont live there.:roll: That's the USA for one and not the same tribe,try the Deni.

You should do some more research before commenting on our Arctic,your ignorance has been nothing but astounding so far.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Skewed stats,I will believe what I hear in the northen store or the restaraunt or the many I have lived with there,not some internet arctic armchair quarterback.

I have yet to meet any Inuk that would agree with you except for a small handfull but thats to be expected.
Check out my arctic pics if you want to see what life is really like up there.
I have been around,you obviously havent.

Again, let us agree to disagree. I prefer to believe the Inuits who are in the news, they think that their way of life is threatened due to global warming. You prefer to believe the Inuits you have talked to, and they don't think that their way of life is in any danger. Let us leave it at that.

 

[lone wolf]

Again, let us agree to disagree. I prefer to believe the Inutst who are in the news, they think that their way of life is threatened due to global warming. You prefer to believe the Inuits you have talked to, and they don't think that their way of life is in any danger. Let us leave ti at that.

*ahem*.... talked to ... and LIVED AMONG....

 

[Ron in Regina]

Keep it Clean Guys...

 

[Kakato]

Again, let us agree to disagree. I prefer to believe the Inuits who are in the news, they think that their way of life is threatened due to global warming. You prefer to believe the Inuits you have talked to, and they don't think that their way of life is in any danger. Let us leave it at that.

No dude,i lived with them for over 3 years and have yet to hear one single one spout what you say they are so give it a break.
Thats peeps from over 5000 miles so I think I got a pretty good idea on what the population thinks,98% of inuk's would laugh at you for that comment.

Your Innuit's in the news are a handfull of activists and they are also tthe reason the innuit are so pissed at the government(Canadian and USA) for cutting their quota's on polar hunts.

Read up on CBC north,read the local papers from Nunavut to see how the peeps that live there feel about this,I can tell you right now the Nunavut government is going to tell the rest of the world to go fu*k themselves pretty soon and they can.They have the diamonds and gold and Uranium and really arent going to get pissed around anymore by stupid envirofreaks that cost them so many jobs 20 years ago when they turned down applications for a mine that would have made lots of community's rich with jobs it was because of a few loudmouth armchair activists that id didnt go through.

I'm confident though that they are starting to look at jobs where there was none before and stop listening to the chicken littles like you.

 

[MHz]

;-) Don't tell anyone but I still do the tank 'n' spreader tube thing to oil the dust down. Is chloride good for the environment ... or CIL?

Try and get the material that gets removed just before any street in a city is repaved. Once in place it is there forever.

It should almost be free if you can haul it away as it is classified as a waste product. (it is trucked away and put into a huge stockpile. That pile is usually on the property of an asphalt company that lets it sit there a few years (proving it is a waste product) and then they bring in a crusher and grind it back up and send it through the asphalt plant and resold to the city at full price). The taxpayers keep paying through the nose. The way it should work is the truck that gets loaded with this waste books it to the plant, dumps his load and it goes into the plant at a rate of 60% old material and 40% new gravel/sand/oil. Since that waste material belongs to the city their cost come down in that proportion thereby saving the taxpayers some loot. The only thing lost are the winter vacations this scam nets the city officials and the paving/trucking companies.
Just about anybody with a garage could burn the oil to produce heat. Most full serve stations have a container for such things.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I'm confident though that they are starting to look at jobs where there was none before and stop listening to the chicken littles like you.

It is not I who is saying that Inuit's way of life is threatened, kakato. It is the Inuits themselves saying that (much as you may not like the fact).

Google for it and you will find numerous articles as to how Inuits think that their way of life is threatened.

 

[Kakato]

It is not I who is saying that Inuit's way of life is threatened, kakato. It is the Inuits themselves saying that (much as you may not like the fact).

Google for it and you will find numerous articles as to how Inuits think that their way of life is threatened.

I could google it but I think living with the Innuit for 3 years is a way better source for information.;-)
Your quoting the arctic version of greenpeace though so please keep on,it's quite entertaining.

Their well known amongst the arctic,as environuts.:lol:

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I could google it but I think living with the Innuit for 3 years is a way better source for information.;-)
Your quoting the arctic version of greenpeace though so please keep on,it's quite entertaining.

Their well known amongst the arctic,as environuts.:lol:

So let me get this straight, The Inuits who disagree with you are environuts? That tells me more than anything else where you stand when it comes to environment.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Try and get the material that gets removed just before any street in a city is repaved. Once in place it is there forever.

It should almost be free if you can haul it away as it is classified as a waste product. (it is trucked away and put into a huge stockpile. That pile is usually on the property of an asphalt company that lets it sit there a few years (proving it is a waste product) and then they bring in a crusher and grind it back up and send it through the asphalt plant and resold to the city at full price). The taxpayers keep paying through the nose. The way it should work is the truck that gets loaded with this waste books it to the plant, dumps his load and it goes into the plant at a rate of 60% old material and 40% new gravel/sand/oil. Since that waste material belongs to the city their cost come down in that proportion thereby saving the taxpayers some loot. The only thing lost are the winter vacations this scam nets the city officials and the paving/trucking companies.
Just about anybody with a garage could burn the oil to produce heat. Most full serve stations have a container for such things.

I used to like this recycling business, when it worked for me. I was one of few who heated with oil in Saskatchewan. When we had an airplane that needed its fuel tanks drained it cost twice as much to get rid of the bad stuff than to pump in the good, stange, and we're not talking small amounts here either. The crew chief would call me and ask if I could help out, sure, I would take "contaminated" fuel away for free. Heated my house with it for years. Hey, I did my part for recycling, I just wish I still lived there to be still doing it. I understand the game, but I didn't profit from it, in so many words, I guess.