Death knell for AGW

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For Immediate ReleaseDecember 3, 2009Contact: Tom Kise(916) 425-1314 or tkise@blackrockgrp.comLos Angeles, CA — Today, Roger L. Simon and Lionel Chetwynd, both members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences and Oscar nominees, called on the Academy to rescind Al Gore’s Oscar in light of the Climategate revelations.Simon, also the CEO of Pajamas Media and PJTV, said the following during his and Chetwynd’s co-hosted Poliwood program on PJTV:I personally call for the Academy to rescind this Oscar.[In] the history of the Academy … not to my knowledge has an Oscar ever been rescinded … I think they should rescind this one.Climategate began on November 19th, when a whistleblower released a series of documents from the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit. These documents exposed a coordinated effort among climate scientists to distort the facts regarding man-made “Global Warming.”
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Hollywood is itself a coordinated effort to reveal the truth through fiction. Truth discloses itself, not in plain propositions, but in lies, mistakes, trickery, and tall stories. (see Jeremy Campbell, The Liar's Tale- A History of Falsehood, New York: W.W. Norton, 2001)
 
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Whistleblowers?? I've seen quite a few of those emails posted elsewhere, some of which are unambiguously benign. Dealing with researchers asking questions about where to go for certain sources of data, in some cases talking about travel plans, and one researcher travelling home for his wife's birthday.

That's not a whistleblower, that's an invasion of privacy, they're hackers, and what they did is wrong.
 
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Wow! I just watched BBC news and was startled to see that camel drivers in Timbuktu are no longer using camels but are using trucks to haul salt because the weather has gotten too hot for camels!!!!


UNFRIGGIN' REAL!!!
 
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Whistleblowers?? I've seen quite a few of those emails posted elsewhere, some of which are unambiguously benign. Dealing with researchers asking questions about where to go for certain sources of data, in some cases talking about travel plans, and one researcher travelling home for his wife's birthday.

That's not a whistleblower, that's an invasion of privacy, they're hackers, and what they did is wrong.
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... and it neither proves climate change claims nor does it disprove them. It's a side issue.
 
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YouTube - Rex Murphy on Climategate
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He has a point, but he forgot to mention that deniers have abandoned investigation and have attached themselves to the habit of just denying anything and everything to do with climate change. So in effect, he's doing exactly the same thing that the authors of the emails did: omit or try to downplay any of the oppositions points.
The investigation is still proceeding and eventually we will find out. In the meantime, is it responsible to just keep going along as if pollution doesn't matter, or do we act responsibly?
 
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"-gate" means it is a scandal only in the US.
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Chretien came up with his Shawinigate shenanigans.
Why don't you quit popping out with these inane little fortune cookie comments and try saying intelligent stuff?
 
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In the meantime, is it responsible to just keep going along as if pollution doesn't matter, or do we act responsibly?
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CO2 is not a pollutant and this is what the AGWers want us to do away with.
 
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CO2 is not a pollutant and this is what the AGWers want us to do away with.
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CO2 is a pollutant when the concentration of it is more than normal.
Water is a good thing right? Lots of things need water. Trees need water to grow and they are made of wood. So throwing water in your fireplace should be a good thing. :roll:
You like sugar in your coffee? Pour yourself a cup and then add a kilogram of sugar.
 
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CO2 is a pollutant when the concentration of it is more than normal.
Water is a good thing right? Lots of things need water. Trees need water to grow and they are made of wood. So throwing water in your fireplace should be a good thing. :roll:
You like sugar in your coffee? Pour yourself a cup and then add a kilogram of sugar.
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Whatever, keep your CO2 on your property.
 
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CO2 is not a pollutant and this is what the AGWers want us to do away with.
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So where is all the carbonic acid coming from? How would you explain the shifting carbonate equilibrium in ocean waters?
 
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