Quit picking on Obama……

YukonJack

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"At this point, people want a Jimmy Carter, not a Bush."

And that is EXACTLY what you got!

Look forward to an 18% inflation, 15 or more % mortgage rates and a 20% unemployment.
Also $4.50 or $5.00 per gallon of gas prices. And line-ups at gas stations.

Change you can believe in????
 

JLM

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SirJosephPorter, JLM and TenPenny, I am fully aware hthat there was an election that put this unprepared little boy in the most powerful office in the world.

But let us pretend for a minute that you had been eligible to vote in that election. Based on your posts, it is clear that you would have been part of the politically correct brainwashed and vote for Obama. Can you tell me WHY??

You're jumping to conclusions, I have no idea who I would have voted for. I liked things about both Obama and McCain. I think McCain had a stronger running mate. On the other hand I'd be leary of McCain on account of his age. I could really see nothing negative about Obama, well educted, articulate, good debater, not easily flustered and he had some experience in politics. Enough? That remains to be seen. But the burning question for me would be, how given my situation IF I lived in the U.S. which one would benefit me the most.
 

YukonJack

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"I could really see nothing negative about Obama, well educted, articulate, good debater, not easily flustered and he had some experience in politics. Enough?"
So, You could not see that this boy had nothing but a rousing speech to his credit? You could not see that he never run anything in his life, while Sarah Palin was elected to be mayor twice and Governor of the state that holds the most natural resources on America?

Of course, you probably did not fail to see that Palin was pro-life. I bet that if she had aborted her developmentally challenged child, and had encouraged her daughter to have an abortion, she would be your hero.

You probably also never saw that should Obama died in office the President would be the biggest joke as Vice President, born-with-foot-in-the-mouth Joe Biden.

Of course, for the likes of you, any successful woman who does not embrace infanticide via abortion is nothing but a piece of conservative dirt.

Other than voting "PRESENT" in more than 130 occasions in the Illinois and United States Senates, combined, what experience had Obama had to qualify him to be President?
 

Ron in Regina

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If there's a personal attack, name calling, etc....on other members in
your post, or a post you quote....don't expect it to be there for long.
If the behavior is repeated here after the Green Ink...know that there
are consequences.
 

SirJosephPorter

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"Incidentally, the last time USA had double digit unemployment was when you’re Messiah, Reagan was in office."

SirJosephPorter, first, check your grammar.

Do you really want to compare your grammar and mine, YJ?

Second, your nit-picking re unemployment and approval takes tha proverbial cake.

Well, in that case, here is your spelling mistake.

Third, check your unemployment figures. Welcome to the regime of Jimmy Carter II.

No, YOU check the unemployment figures. Unemployment was revised downward to 10% just today. As to Jimmy Carter II, you wish.
 

SirJosephPorter

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SirJosephPorter, JLM and TenPenny, I am fully aware hthat there was an election that put this unprepared little boy in the most powerful office in the world.

But let us pretend for a minute that you had been eligible to vote in that election. Based on your posts, it is clear that you would have been part of the politically correct brainwashed and vote for Obama. Can you tell me WHY??

That is easy, YJ. Republicans had been in power 8 years (presidency) or 12 years (Congress), depending upon how you wanted to look at it.

They had made a royal screw up, a gigantic mess of both the foreign policy (Iraq war) and the economy (the worst economic meltdown since the Depression). Somebody had to try to fix the Republican mess, obviously one cannot rely on Republicans to clean up the mess they created in the first place.

So Obama was a logical choice. And he is trying to clean up the huge mess left by Bush and the Republicans, it remains to be seen how successful be is at it.
 

SirJosephPorter

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"At this point, people want a Jimmy Carter, not a Bush."

And that is EXACTLY what you got!

Look forward to an 18% inflation, 15 or more % mortgage rates and a 20% unemployment.
Also $4.50 or $5.00 per gallon of gas prices. And line-ups at gas stations.

Change you can believe in????


I know Republicans are gleefully licking their chops, eagerly looking forward to 20% inflation, 25% unemployment (‘only’ 18% inflation and ‘only’ 20% unemployment? Are you getting soft Obama?) and so on, just so they could win the next election. Personally, I would wish such a fate on any nation, but that is just me, I don’t have the drive, the zeal for winning that Republicans evidently possess.

Anyway, you are likely to be sorely disappointed. The jobs outlook is improving, just today they revised the unemployment downward to 10% from 10,2 %. Most economists expect job creation to begin in the first quarter of 2010.

If that does happen (and I have no reason to see why it wouldn’t) and if Democrats pass the health care reform, Republicans will be in tough shape indeed for 2010 election.
 

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I was reading a quote somewhere that said" if you lined up all the worlds economists on the equator they would all still point in different directions". There is a chance that there will not ever be another American election,certainly not the usual puffy smelly type.
 

SirJosephPorter

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So, You could not see that this boy had nothing but a rousing speech to his credit? You could not see that he never run anything in his life, while Sarah Palin was elected to be mayor twice and Governor of the state that holds the most natural resources on America?

Of course, you probably did not fail to see that Palin was pro-life. I bet that if she had aborted her developmentally challenged child, and had encouraged her daughter to have an abortion, she would be your hero.

Of course, for the likes of you, any successful woman who does not embrace infanticide via abortion is nothing but a piece of conservative dirt.

You may sing the praises of Joan of Arc to high Heaven, YJ. But the problem was that she was intensely disliked by Americans in general. Liberals did not like her, that was to be expected. The problem was women did not like her, she was deeply unpopular among American women. So any defense of her by blaming liberals is really pointless. Her problem was not the liberals, her problem was the American voters, they simply did not think she was the presidential material (70 % of them still don’t).

Other than voting "PRESENT" in more than 130 occasions in the Illinois and United States Senates, combined, what experience had Obama had to qualify him to be President?

But why are you asking that question in this forum? This forum did not elect him the president, American people did. Ask this question to the American voters.
 

Francis2004

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I was reading a quote somewhere that said" if you lined up all the worlds economists on the equator they would all still point in different directions". There is a chance that there will not ever be another American election,certainly not the usual puffy smelly type.

Would you include Harper ( being an Economist ) in that long line on the equator ?
 

gopher

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''You know how you hear all that stuff about Canadians being so nice and polite and humble, gopher???? It is all true''

HAHA!! New York and the Twin Cities have one thing in common: they are overrun with what Minnesotans often call Canuckleheads (the term is not used in NY as it is considered offensive in those parts). So I know what you folks are all about socially speaking.
 

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A list of 12 very bad ideas; one for each day of Christmas

Mark J. Fitzgibbons

[FONT=times new roman,times]1. Letting a “[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]vehemently pro man-made global warming advoca[te][/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]” investigate Climategate.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]2. Trusting the climate experts in the Obama White House.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]3. Electing Barbara Boxer to office in the first place, then listening to what she says about Climategate.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]4. Blaming the Secret Service for the White House party crashers, and using the Separation of Powers doctrine to stonewall questioning of White House social secretary Desiree Rogers.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]5. Putting SEIU President Andy Stern on the team conducting an internal investigation of ACORN.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]6. California Attorney General Jerry Brown’s not recusing himself from investigating ACORN.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]7. Barney Frank’s investigating the housing bubble.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]8. Letting Chris Dodd anywhere near banking legislation.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]9. Asking Attorney General Eric Holder for legal precedent.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]10. Relying on the president, whose Cabinet has the least private sector experience since at least 1900, to create jobs.[/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]11. Letting certain mammals guard a henhouse. [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]12. Letting certain other mammals run a cheese factory.[/FONT]
 

SirJosephPorter

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''You know how you hear all that stuff about Canadians being so nice and polite and humble, gopher???? It is all true''

HAHA!! New York and the Twin Cities have one thing in common: they are overrun with what Minnesotans often call Canuckleheads (the term is not used in NY as it is considered offensive in those parts). So I know what you folks are all about socially speaking.


Here I must disagree with you, Gopher. Don’t go by some of the yahoos in the forum here. Internet anonymity brings out the worst in some people. Things they wouldn’t dare say to somebody’s face, they can say without any problem in the anonymity of internet.

However, you will see the difference between Americans and Canadian when you move away from the anonymity, when politicians, columnists etc. have to say something publicly, openly. Then Canadians are indeed are more polite.

Thus, we don’t have any equivalent of your hate radio., we don’t have an indigenous Rush ‘drug addict’ Limbaugh, we don’t have Ann Coulter, Dr. Laura etc., who spout poison, vitriol, filth, 24/7 and who continually keep poisoning the political discourse of USA.

Harper has plenty of political enemies here, in fact many more than Obama does. Obama has approval rating of about 50%; Conservatives here have approval rating of less than 40%. However you won’t see anybody in Canadian politics refer to Harper as a Nazi, a Communist, a Muslim terrorist, an illegal alien etc. The discourse in Canada is more polite, more civil than that in USA (though obviously we have our share of hate mongers, of yahoos).

So again, don’t go by what a few nuts say here in the anonymity of internet. Indeed, that is the test I myself adopt. Would I say something to somebody’s face? If I would, then I say it here, otherwise I don’t.
 

gopher

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SJP,

Over the years I have come across enough Canadian white supremacists, associates of the KKK, far right delusionals, and other haters who would fit quite neatly with Republicans or others of that extreme. True, there aren't quite as many as we have in the States. But you do have your share.

Of course, the vast majority of Canadians that I have known are good natured, polite, open minded, and absolutely no use for extremism or prejudices of any kind. Dealing with them is always a treat. I would never have come to this forum if this was not my experience or expectation.
 

SirJosephPorter

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SJP,

Over the years I have come across enough Canadian white supremacists, associates of the KKK, far right delusionals, and other haters who would fit quite neatly with Republicans or others of that extreme. True, there aren't quite as many as we have in the States. But you do have your share.

Of course, the vast majority of Canadians that I have known are good natured, polite, open minded, and absolutely no use for extremism or prejudices of any kind. Dealing with them is always a treat. I would never have come to this forum if this was not my experience or expectation.

Quite so, Gopher. We have our share of right wing loonies (Randy White, Cheryl Gallant, just to name two, you probably haven’t heard of them). But there are far fewer of them here in Canada, and so far they have not been able to poison the discourse, the political atmosphere here as much as they have done in USA.