Poll:- life better now or in 1959?

Nuggler

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I wonder what kind of school YOU went, to, ironsides. Use of the strap or the cane was quite common 50 years ago. I don’t’ know what was your government’s policy in those days (although I would be very surprised indeed if the strap was banned in public schools, USA just isn’t that progressive). But in private schools strap was used liberally. In Catholic Schools, those operated by nuns and priests, the strap was in common use.

As to myself no, I wasn’t picked on. And I did my secondary schooling in 60s anyway, I was born in 1950. But we used to hear rumors, stories told in hushed tones, some girl disappeared from school, she had gone to have a baby. Anybody who was even slightly different (like being a Jew) was mercilessly picked on in those days. That may be the case even today, but these days there is awareness about bullying and effort to get rid of it.

In those days, bullying was a passage of rite, and anybody who was slightly different (different religion, obese, no dad etc.) paid the price, became the victim.


We had the strap in public school. Doled out sparingly, but doled out none the less.

We also had several Jewish kids in our particular school, and anyone picking on them would have had the shyte kicked out of them. Most of them were our FRIENDS, and we tried to look after one another.

Course the concept of friend is probably quite alien to you.
 

JLM

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Nuggler- I get the feeling S.J. judges the rest of Canada by Ontario and you just can't be doing that if you want a snapshot of the typical Canadian. We've had quite a few Ontarions move out here over the years and I've met quite a few of them and worked with quite a few of them too, while I would never bad mouth them suffice it to say they are (on the most part) not terribly humble people. Now before anyone gets upset, remember the old adage "there's an exception to every rule", so of course there's some nice ones.
 

talloola

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I had been married one year in l959
Life was much better for people looking for work, one could get a pretty good
job right out of school, even if you had not graduated. One could save up and
buy a lot, then gradually build a 'modest' house, over time. That concept went
down the drain shortly after that time, big houses, big mortgages, and young
people were not satisfied with anything 'modest', or starting out simple and
work their up throughout the years, (we want it now attitude).
It is very difficult for young people these days, jobs are very scarce, and training
for almost any good job is very expensive, and by the time one is trained he/she
is deep in debt.
Life expectancy was just fine in l959, there have been more discoveries for the
treatment of desease, but people did just fine back then, it isn't that long ago.
NO DRUGS, we just had to see the misery of alchohol, but now the drugs are
a horrible addition to life these days, and is the most serious war for north
america, and there doesn't seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel.
And, the music was great.
Women were still struggling for equality, so that has improved quite a bit, but
still is not perfect.
I was a stay at home mom, don't know anyone no days who can do that, they
just cannot afford it, most of the kids are shipped out to daycares, and far too
many latch-key kids coming home to 'nothing', but a big house, with no one in
it.
My kids all have to work (daughters), but they all remember coming home from school each day, and I was there, it is a secure comfortable feeling for children.
And, we were so busy with after school activities, they all would have had to
depend on 'other' people to drive them to and from, if I had been at work.
I should have worked, because financially we would have done much better, but
we did not put the priorities in that order.
 

gerryh

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best thing about '59....for the most part...women still knew their place.
 

ironsides

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best thing about '59....for the most part...women still knew their place.


That was a very dangerous statement back then as it is now. Life was a lot simpler though back then, much less stress for the majority. Think about it, no wars happening because what we didn't know didn't bother us.
 

Nuggler

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Nuggler- I get the feeling S.J. judges the rest of Canada by Ontario and you just can't be doing that if you want a snapshot of the typical Canadian. We've had quite a few Ontarions move out here over the years and I've met quite a few of them and worked with quite a few of them too, while I would never bad mouth them suffice it to say they are (on the most part) not terribly humble people. Now before anyone gets upset, remember the old adage "there's an exception to every rule", so of course there's some nice ones.


I"m one of the most humblyest of humbles, and I have a lot to be humble for.......:lol:
 

JLM

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That was a very dangerous statement back then as it is now. Life was a lot simpler though back then, much less stress for the majority. Think about it, no wars happening because what we didn't know didn't bother us.

I would take that as a vote for life being better in '59. Even Gerry has a right to his opinion w/o feeling he's in danger........:lol::lol::lol:
 

Nuggler

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The 50's sucked big time, when it came to health care, etc.

Also Kanada was not an equal opportunity anything regarding women.

.........But that's a whole other bag o stuff. Mebbee a new thread, yathink??

2009 is where it's at. Unless you don't think so. Then it ain't.

8O
 

SirJosephPorter

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I had been married one year in l959
Life was much better for people looking for work, one could get a pretty good
job right out of school, even if you had not graduated. One could save up and
buy a lot, then gradually build a 'modest' house, over time. That concept went
down the drain shortly after that time, big houses, big mortgages, and young
people were not satisfied with anything 'modest', or starting out simple and
work their up throughout the years, (we want it now attitude).

Sure life was simpler, but you probably don’t realize the injustice of what you are saying. OK, one could get a pretty good job right out of school or even without school, but who could do that? Only white males. Did a black kid get a good job out of school? Fat chance, discrimination against blacks was rampant in those days. And it was officially tolerated too.

And what kind of ‘good job’ would a girl get right out of school? She was qualified only for two positions, secretary or Mrs.

So yes, life was simple. But it also was highly unjust.

I had been married one year in l959
It is very difficult for young people these days, jobs are very scarce, and training
for almost any good job is very expensive, and by the time one is trained he/she
is deep in debt. .

Indeed it is difficult, but that is the price of progress. These days in the high tech, fast changing world, high school education does not impart enough skills to compete in the workplace. In the old days, life was simpler and high school education was enough to get a good job. To me, that is an indication that society is much more knowledgeable, more sophisticated these days.

Life expectancy was just fine in l959, there have been more discoveries for the treatment of desease, but people did just fine back then, it isn't that long ago..

No doubt life expectancy was fine in those days. There is no ideal value of life expectancy, if you are used to 71 years, you would think that was fine. But now we have 81 years. If tomorrow our life expectancy suddenly plunged to 71 years, there will be a national outcry, a national scandal, nobody will be satisfied with 71 years today. While 71 years is fine, 81 years is undoubtedly better than 71.

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And, the music was great.
Women were still struggling for equality, so that has improved quite a bit, but
still is not perfect.
I was a stay at home mom, don't know anyone no days who can do that, they
just cannot afford it, most of the kids are shipped out to daycares, and far too
many latch-key kids coming home to 'nothing', but a big house, with no one in
it.

Music is still great, talloola, classical music or Gilbert and Sullivan has not gone anywhere.

And you were not the only one who stayed at home, I think most women did that in those days. A woman working outside the home was very much an oddity, except perhaps as a secretary or a nurse. And she usually quit her job after she got married.

Women can still do that these days, if they want to live with the same standard of living as 50 years ago. If a family wants to live in an apartment, one small car, no computer, no microwave, no DVD player, no cell phone etc., my guess is that it won’t cost any more to live today than 50 years ago, adjusted for inflation.

It is just that people expect a lot more from life these days, and that usually necessitates both spouses working. Also, women would be reluctant to leave the workforce, now that they are in it and have full, equal rights.