They have to be stopped. What ever it takes, enough of withdrawing been doing to much of that lately.
Quit picking on Obama……
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The Democrats perpetuate racial thinking in south.
KINSTON, N.C. | Voters in this small city decided overwhelmingly last year to do away with the party affiliation of candidates in local elections, but the Obama administration recently overruled the electorate and decided that equal rights for black voters cannot be achieved without the Democratic Party.
The Justice Department's ruling, which affects races for City Council and mayor, went so far as to say partisan elections are needed so that black voters can elect their "candidates of choice" - identified by the department as those who are Democrats and almost exclusively black.
The department ruled that white voters in Kinston will vote for blacks only if they are Democrats and that therefore the city cannot get rid of party affiliations for local elections because that would violate black voters' right to elect the candidates they want.
Stephen LaRoque, a former Republican state lawmaker "On top of that, you have an unelected bureaucrat in Washington, D.C., overturning a valid election," he said. "That is un-American."
In Kinston, William Barker is the only City Council member who voted to continue discussing whether to challenge the Justice Department's ruling.
He said he voted against eliminating partisan elections because the proposed new system would declare a winner simply on who received a plurality of votes instead requiring candidates to reach certain threshold of votes based on turnout.
Kinston, William Barker is the only City Council member who voted to continue discussing whether to challenge the Justice Department's ruling.
He said he voted against eliminating partisan elections because the proposed new system would declare a winner simply on who received a plurality of votes instead requiring candidates to reach certain threshold of votes based on turnout.
"Based on the fact that the voters voted overwhelmingly for it, I would like to see us challenge it based on that fact. My fight is solely based on fighting what the voters voted on," he said. "It bothers me, even though I'm on the winning side now, that you have a small group, an outside group coming in and saying, 'Your vote doesn't matter.' "
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/20/justice-dept-blocks-ncs-nonpartisan-vote//print/
KINSTON, N.C. | Voters in this small city decided overwhelmingly last year to do away with the party affiliation of candidates in local elections, but the Obama administration recently overruled the electorate and decided that equal rights for black voters cannot be achieved without the Democratic Party.
The Justice Department's ruling, which affects races for City Council and mayor, went so far as to say partisan elections are needed so that black voters can elect their "candidates of choice" - identified by the department as those who are Democrats and almost exclusively black.
The department ruled that white voters in Kinston will vote for blacks only if they are Democrats and that therefore the city cannot get rid of party affiliations for local elections because that would violate black voters' right to elect the candidates they want.
Stephen LaRoque, a former Republican state lawmaker "On top of that, you have an unelected bureaucrat in Washington, D.C., overturning a valid election," he said. "That is un-American."
In Kinston, William Barker is the only City Council member who voted to continue discussing whether to challenge the Justice Department's ruling.
He said he voted against eliminating partisan elections because the proposed new system would declare a winner simply on who received a plurality of votes instead requiring candidates to reach certain threshold of votes based on turnout.
Kinston, William Barker is the only City Council member who voted to continue discussing whether to challenge the Justice Department's ruling.
He said he voted against eliminating partisan elections because the proposed new system would declare a winner simply on who received a plurality of votes instead requiring candidates to reach certain threshold of votes based on turnout.
"Based on the fact that the voters voted overwhelmingly for it, I would like to see us challenge it based on that fact. My fight is solely based on fighting what the voters voted on," he said. "It bothers me, even though I'm on the winning side now, that you have a small group, an outside group coming in and saying, 'Your vote doesn't matter.' "
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/20/justice-dept-blocks-ncs-nonpartisan-vote//print/
Same reason we got out of Vietnam, we were not defeated on the battlefield, we were defeated at home by politics, the people had enough.
The casuality rate is no where a reason to withdraw, nothing like Vietnam. Some may think 1 death is to much and it is, but we were sent there to do a job, just let them do it.
I agree they have to be stopped, ironsides. But you seem to think that using a bigger hammer is the answer, it is not. It is easy enough to deploy more troops, but that by itself won’t solve the problem.
The important thing is to decide how to deploy the troops, what they should be doing. If it was as easy as deploying more troops, attack the Taliban and destroy them, even Bush could have done that.
Guerrilla warfare is very tricky. When the conventional army thinks the way you do (use a bigger hammer, strike harder), they generally lose. USA already has more than enough troops in Afghanistan so that in a straight battle, USA would utterly smash the Taliban. But guerrilla warfare is a different thing altogether.
Fighting against the guerrillas is not as easy as you seem to think.
Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Who's blaming him for anything? I'm not even making fun of Obama. It's a comment on the inanities of the Nobel people. BUT, if Obama wants to live up to his Peace Prize, he might want to start doing something peaceful besides just talking about it. lol
Actually, the last I heard was Canada, as a part of the NATO forces, was there to provide security until Afghanistan was stable.
There's a long, long trail a-winding
Into the land of my dreams,
Where the nightingales are singing
And a white moon beams:
There's a long, long night of waiting
Until my dreams all come true;
Till the day when I'll be going down
That long, long trail with you.
No, not a bigger hammer, maybe even a smaller hammer, What I am saying is that if you send in military to do a job, keep politics out of it. When you have to resort to a military action, it means that politicians have failed. The army's and Marines there know how to fight, just let them do their job with out worrying about getting repercussions for doing what they know best.
It is important to leave troops there ,for the present to have some say in the area ..It is not a good idea to go in there ..stir up more trouble then we have ,then leave . ..Time for Afgans and allied neigbours to step up ... Protect their own country ..
Hey ...Here's one ...for discussions sake.. Why not put the Taliban or Alqaeda on the ballet box ?.In the name of democracy (?)...See if they win...At least we would know who we were dealing with ..No?
Give them a voice in the country ..
If not ..Why not..?
Is there any place Taliba and Alqaeda are elected?
Hey ...Here's one ...for discussions sake.. Why not put the Taliban or Alqaeda on the ballet box ?.In the name of democracy (?)...See if they win...At least we would know who we were dealing with ..No?
Give them a voice in the country ..
If not ..Why not..?
Is there any place Taliba and Alqaeda are elected?
Obama is evolving into tricky Dick, now he emulates another not to popular President. Now I know what he meant about change..Yes gerryh I am a American. Hey look, Obama is also.
Senator urges Obama: Don't start enemies list.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A top Republican invoked the memory of the scandal-marred Nixon administration on Wednesday to urge U.S. President Barack Obama to "back up" and not "start an enemies list."
Senator Lamar Alexander told Reuters he has begun to see the Obama White House adopting an attitude similar to that of the Richard Nixon White House four decades ago, that "everybody is against us and we are going to get them."
Alexander cited as examples the Obama administration's suggestion that it may support stripping the insurance industry of its exemption of federal anti-trust laws, its clash with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the president saying he will call out people who oppose him and boycott Fox News network.
Senator urges Obama: Don't start enemies list - Yahoo! News
Never saw either the Taliban or Al Qaeda on a ballot. Taliban are from Afghanistan mainly, the Al Qaeda are for the most part outsiders and not much liked by anyone.
i don't think you or the Republicans want to invoke the example of Nixon, ironsides. In case you don't remember, Nixon won the reelection by a landslide.
That came later, EagleSmack. But he won a landslide election first. I don’t think Republicans would want repeat of that history, would you? That will mean presidency will remain in Democratic hands until 2016. According to many Republicans, Obama has already done irreversible damage to US economy and to US society. Think how much more damage Democrats will inflict if they retain the presidency until 2016. Why there may be nothing left but to sing the swan song of the late great USA.
Nah...Obama will just keep printing money and bailing out everyone and increasing spending for massive sink hole programs like ObamaCare. All will be well.
Obama Quarterly Approval Average Slips Nine Points to 53%
Largest second- to third-quarter drop for an elected president
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ -- In Gallup Daily tracking that spans Barack Obama's third quarter in office (July 20 through Oct. 19), the president averaged a 53% job approval rating. That is down sharply from his prior quarterly averages, which were both above 60%.
In fact, the 9-point drop in the most recent quarter is the largest Gallup has ever measured for an elected president between the second and third quarters of his term, dating back to 1953.
Largest second- to third-quarter drop for an elected president
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ -- In Gallup Daily tracking that spans Barack Obama's third quarter in office (July 20 through Oct. 19), the president averaged a 53% job approval rating. That is down sharply from his prior quarterly averages, which were both above 60%.
