Anouncing a new web site: The Science of 9/11
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Me, too, but I think this might be one of those events like the Kennedy assassination where we will likely never know a final story. So in the meantime there'll be the official story and the conspiracy "theories" rattling on forever.
They most likely did, helped getting on-board even, assurred that they could take control of the cabin. Flying instruction in case the pilots died. Otherwise they would have had the agenda of landing somewhere and doing whatever. They would not have been told this was their last day on earth. So they get the cabin and are able to turn off the transponder. From that point they could be taken over by a remote pilot who did the flights to the towers. Nothing anybody could do.
George and Dick were not the planners, they will get very rich for their helping see it through (years after things are still connected to that day).
You are asking the wrong person, first off I have only what bits and pieces I have, your fellow countrymen have done an exhaustive search in most of the possibilities, that is who you should be tapping for the minute details.
The last time 3,000 American civilians died it was their entry into WWII. This also led to war, there will always be a war as long as the ones pulling the strings want one to exist.
Remote this: in Boeings (and others), each aircraft has redundancies built into every single major system. No one techie works on every system. It's a ridiculous idea. And I hear Boeing is even thinking about wireless plus dual redundancies.
Besides that: http://www.911-strike.com/remote_bb.htm
Besides that: http://www.911-strike.com/remote_bb.htm
Well now we are getting somewhere and I commend you for at least attempting. It seems like the others would rather just keep silent.
I am sincere... thank you for at least trying.
Sorry but I had to laugh here. In case they died? Like from having a boxcutter slashed across their throat? I would think that there was a pretty good chance that having their throats cut would result in death don't you?
So now we are getting somewhere. The "operatives" gain access and accidently kill all or most of the pilots. Turn off transponders and the planes are now taken over by remote control.
By who? Who is guiding the planes?
How did they put the equipment in the plane to now make it able to be guided remotely? Who installed the equipment? Were the airlines involved?
Ok. But George and Dick gave the approval. When was the planning started?
No I think I am asking the right person. You seem to have reams of info of what didn't happen so you must know what did happen. To come out and rip the official explanation of what did happen and not have an exact alternative scenario is a cop out. That is too easy. I asked one poster here before the same question and he said...
"Go ask your government"
The government has told us what they believe. I want to hear what happened by the ones who say this is a conspiracy by the government. I want to hear about the conspiracy and how it was pulled off.
I ain't silent. lol If it makes you feel any better, I think the planes were hijacked, too. Remote controlling them without anyone getting twitchy about techs loading RC systems on board them and installing them would be the next thing to impossible and I can't see Boeing being in on a conspiracy to trash their planes and the towers. The idea is just freakin hilarious. They'd have to put RC in all the redundant systems, too.
That there was collusion involved I have no doubt, but WHO were involved in it is up for grabs and so far, any conspiracy "theory" has been as full of holes as the official version.
Eagle it is 10:30 where I am and I have to be up at 5 so this is just to let you know I am not copping out. Anna posted a link that deals with remote control. The capability might be installed in every recent plane built. Her link is one and on that same page there is another article about it. From the fast read I gave it it was installed as a means to regain control of a plane that was hi-jacked. If these things are a fact then the only other thing needed might be some extra software. Any laptop could be used at any serviceing the plane got.
Anyway that is something to read and hopefully tomorrow will be a shorter day.
Anyway that is something to read and hopefully tomorrow will be a shorter day.
But of course he did. I saw a thing about it on the internet, so it must be true.
What is the difference between ordering it and the truth which was knowing about it but doing nothing about it to make entering a war appealing to the public?
That's not a nice thing to do.
You were aware of that piece of histroy weren't you? FDR and Pearl Harbour was a silly choice to compare to 9-11.
It sounds very familar to many people in the world and I don't blame them since far far worse things have happened to trusting citizens of seemingly peaceful nations.
Be careful of who you politically worship for magical economic reform and rallying for national unity.
He may have a cup o Timmy's in one hand and a death list rolled up in the other.
10:28 where I am and I have a bit of time. Anna's link also has a link to another remote control page. In it it has this observation.
"Now, I have no inside knowledge, but as an engineer, Vialls' story rings true. I believe that "hijack recovery" would have been a very obvious feature to incorporate into a computerized aircraft control system, and also that European customers of Boeing aircraft would find this a very troublesome and controversial feature.
On the other hand, Joe Vialls goes on to make some very absurd claims about this "Home Run" system. For example, that the system would require the Cockpit Voice Recorder to go blank. What kind of idiotic engineering team would design a system that would require the voice recorder go silent during the critical moments following a hijack attempt?
Furthermore,........."
In even a 'B' grade movie it would be toi not record the 'hi-jacked pilot' from saying. I don't have any control, the manual overrides do not work because the computer says everything is functioning. (or whatever) Maybe the 'hi-jacker' wants a few minutes to blab about who hired him to do something that is not 'according to plan'. In that sort of event you do not want dead witnesses speaking out against you.
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Sorry but I had to laugh here. In case they died? Like from having a boxcutter slashed across their throat? I would think that there was a pretty good chance that having their throats cut would result in death don't you?[/quote]
In a 'normal hi-jacking a weapon is first used as an intimidation tool. To use it against the 'best driver' might not be the best move. Threats are the first offer, then threats. A cold blooded attack might have one or more of the crew sliced in front of them as a means of persuasion. To order him to crash into the towers would most likely require his death. They had time to kill the whole plane, on this sort of mission that would be the wisest thing to do.. That way no riot when people see they are flying into NY (literally).
Part of a pilots training would be what to do during a hi-jack. Bankers have little hidden buttons. On a new plane activating that button would open a back-door to anti-jacking instructions to the plane. In an normal situation it would be 'head for the nearest airport and park at the far end of the most distant runway and turn off all power. That could be used to take control of a fake hi-jacking, and , like I said the comment was question why no voice recording. Nothing came from the towers black boxes, flt93 was palyed for the families but never released.
Like I was saying if the pilot would have agreed to landing at NY there would be no need to kill him. When control was taken he would have been even more confused than the jackers. The sounds in that last 10 minutes would clarify all of the above. Are they available???
In a post I just lost I alluded to it is way past FDR. It is as basic as some sectors of humanity have decided that they are the cream of the crop and they deserve as much as they want. It has been going on for 100's of years.
Supposed royality is the most public display, although politicians are gettong better at huge parties for the elite.
The taxpayer hires a lot of people, a certain percentage of those hold meeting behind closed door that determine what will next be done to these ones that must be kept in line and in the dark. Who would think up such a plan and the publically say what America needs is a new pearl harbor. They needed that because the vast majority are not interventiualists. The Americam military are for actions, any kind, covert or public. Do you not see any kind of warning when the Gov admits the hire PR firms so they cam market themselves better to their bosses (the taxpayer)
None of the above, it was originally marketed to the airlines as a anti-Hi-jacking software, (or loss of concious flight crew, wahtever, came from the factory with software that could be hacked into by the 'protectors'.
It woiuld be more truthful to say when 'this piece of the plan'. Depends on what part of the plan. A more watched homeland (the tax-payers not the feds). Energy security. Iraq??? Dick and George only have ties to that cartel they are not the founders.
Lots have found their own answers just because the Gov is slow of flat-out stone-walling some things.
You don't want me for this, others have already done the work. If I was to do it we would be starting in the 1800's and cover about 50 before WWII. I already gave you that list some time back.
Did you know tha Admiral was finally cleared of any wrong-doing? lol The net might even have it by now. How many people are you a -yes-men- too anyway??
And I saw a video of him doing the ordering. lol Some idiot suggested that his words were actually dubbed in to make it SEEM like he did the ordering, but they can't fool me. It was actually him alright.
lol Who is they and how do you determine who the idiot is, other than just going by your opinion? Is this the vid you hold so dear?
Expert Goes On Record: Bin Laden 9/11 Confession Is Bogus
Perhaps these links should be followed.
Justice for 9/11 Complaint and Petition -- [www.justicefor911.org]
I particularily like the link to this story, getting medical help and a visit from the CIA but no arrest for previous crimes.
(in part)
An article in the French daily Le Figaro confirms that Osama bin Laden underwent surgery in an American Hospital in Dubai in July.
During his stay in the hospital, he met with a CIA official. While on the World's "most wanted list", no attempt was made to arrest him during his two week stay in the hospital, shedding doubt on the Administration's resolve to track down Osama bin Laden.
Barely a few days ago Defense Secretary Rumsfeld stated that it would be difficult to find him and extradite him. Its like "searching for a needle in a stack of hay". But the US could have ordered his arrest and extradition in Dubai last July. But then they would not have had a pretext of waging a war. Meanwhile, innocent civilians are being killed by B-52 Bombers as means "to go after" Osama bin Laden. According to UN sources, the so-called "campaign against international terrorism" could lead to the death of several million people from an impending famine.
The original article in French is also posted on the CRG webpage.
Michel Chossudovsky, CRG. 2 November 2001
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No I did not know that. Reason being is that Adm. Kimmel was never exonerated. Back in the 90's the Senate passed a "NON-BINDING" resolution and asked the President to exonerate Kimmel but he never did.
So as it stands to this day, Adm. Kimmel and Gen. Short bear the bulk of the responisibility for being unprepared.
MHZ... you are still not telling me what happened that day. I don't need to know details of what happened in the cockpit. We all know the pilots had their throats slashed.
You are avoiding answering now.
Give me a general overview. Thats all.
So as it stands... Bush and Cheney approved the events of 9/11.
The hijackers entered the cockpit only to intimidate the pilots but all the pilots managed to get their throats cut.
The hijackers turn off the transponders and... what?
Who takes over the planes remotely?
You are avoiding answering now.
Give me a general overview. Thats all.
So as it stands... Bush and Cheney approved the events of 9/11.
The hijackers entered the cockpit only to intimidate the pilots but all the pilots managed to get their throats cut.
The hijackers turn off the transponders and... what?
Who takes over the planes remotely?