Another Hypocrite Bites Dust!

[SirJosephPorter]

Or, for example, if he claimed to be a Catholic, he would be a hypocrite for being an adulterer as well.

Not necessarily, TenPenny. Do we really know what is in somebody’s heart? We don’t know what he meant by Catholic. Catholicism means different things to different people. There are some homosexuals, who insist that they are Catholic.

So do we really know how he felt about adultery? We don’t unless he gave a sermon on adultery, or preached to others that adultery is wrong. If he said nothing, I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt and assume that he felt ambivalent about adultery.

I am sure there are millions of Catholics in USA who commit adultery, it doesn’t’ make them all hypocrites. Or there are still many gays in the closet, married to someone of other gender. That doesn’t make them hypocrites.

Hypocrites is a term applied to a small group of people, who preach to others one way of life and then they themselves live another way.

 

[TenPenny]

Not necessarily, TenPenny. Do we really know what is in somebody’s heart? We don’t know what he meant by Catholic. Catholicism means different things to different people. There are some homosexuals, who insist that they are Catholic.

Well then, he'd be a hypocrite for claiming to be a Catholic while not following in the Church's beliefs, wouldn't he?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Well then, he'd be a hypocrite for claiming to be a Catholic while not following in the Church's beliefs, wouldn't he?

No he wouldn’t. You don’t have to follow the official Catholic beliefs as outlined by the Pope in order to be a Catholic.

Catholics disagree with the Pope on many issues. Many of them don’t have a problem with contraception. They use contraception, they have abortions. Many of them believe that women should be priests etc. They are not excommunicated by the Church, they are not denied Communion, they are still considered Catholic.

Indeed, if the Catholic Church proclaimed that only those who believe in the official policies outlined by the Vatican are Catholic, the Catholic Church would empty in a short order, at least here in North America.

 

[TenPenny]

No he wouldn’t. You don’t have to follow the official Catholic beliefs as outlined by the Pope in order to be a Catholic.

That's good to know.

 

[petros]

Well then, he'd be a hypocrite for claiming to be a Catholic while not following in the Church's beliefs, wouldn't he?

In adultery what it all boils down to is what your wife believes or disbelieves.

 

[TenPenny]

In adultery what it all boils down to is what your wife believes or disbelieves.

That's a new interpretation. You must be a good Catholic, like SJP.

 

[petros]

That's a new interpretation. You must be a good Catholic, like SJP.

No. I just fear my wife far more than i do a church, Jesus or Yahweh (one of several gods known as Elohim but chosen as favourite by the hebrews who killed god's wife Ashera in 622BC freeing Yahweh to go around boinking virgins).

 

[YukonJack]

"Ten Commandments are open to interpretation, Tonington. E.g. does ‘thou shalt not kill’ oppose abortion? Some will say yes, others will say not. Does ‘love thy neighbour’ also mean love thy homosexual neighbour? Some will say yes, some will say no."

Once again, SirJosephPorter, yo displayed your stunning ignorance.

"Love thy/your neighbour" is NOT one of the Ten Commandments.

Perhaps that is why you so often and so flagrantly disrespect it.

 

[petros]

"Ten Commandments are open to interpretation, Tonington. E.g. does ‘thou shalt not kill’ oppose abortion? Some will say yes, others will say not. Does ‘love thy neighbour’ also mean love thy homosexual neighbour? Some will say yes, some will say no."

Once again, SirJosephPorter, yo displayed your stunning ignorance.

"Love thy/your neighbour" is NOT one of the Ten Commandments.

Perhaps that is why you so often and so flagrantly disrespect it.

How do you explain the part about incest being okay when Lot's daughters got their dad drunk to boink him?

This **** is better than TV. No wonder the bible was kept secret in Latin for 1600 years. It's PORN!

 

[petros]

Or how about the guy God demanded he boink his dead brother's wife but he whacked him because he pulled out and ejaculated on the ground?

Now god is doing snuff porn?

 

[TenPenny]

Not necessarily, TenPenny. Do we really know what is in somebody’s heart? We don’t know what he meant by Catholic. Catholicism means different things to different people. There are some homosexuals, who insist that they are Catholic.

So do we really know how he felt about adultery? We don’t unless he gave a sermon on adultery, or preached to others that adultery is wrong. If he said nothing, I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt and assume that he felt ambivalent about adultery.

I am sure there are millions of Catholics in USA who commit adultery, it doesn’t’ make them all hypocrites. Or there are still many gays in the closet, married to someone of other gender. That doesn’t make them hypocrites.

Hypocrites is a term applied to a small group of people, who preach to others one way of life and then they themselves live another way.

So in other words, your original post, where you claim someone is a hypocrite because of his adultery, you are completely wrong, because you are now arguing that being a religious adulterer does not make you a hypocrite.

You've managed to grow up quite a bit in the course of this thread.

 

[EagleSmack]

So you are defending Mike Duvall, are you? Well, as a conservative you would, I suppose.

Did I mention anything about Mike Duvall?

I can hear those mindless, unthinking guttural sounds from you.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

So in other words, your original post, where you claim someone is a hypocrite because of his adultery, you are completely wrong, because you are now arguing that being a religious adulterer does not make you a hypocrite.

You've managed to grow up quite a bit in the course of this thread.

TenPenny, I never said that Duvall’s adultery made him a hypocrite. Read my original post. It is the fact that he committed adultery AND he used to preach to others how they should live their lives (he got 100% rating, from the conservative, family values organization, Capitol Resource Institute), that makes him a hypocrite.

I would never say that committing adultery would make somebody a hypocrite. Basically if someone preaches to others that they should live a certain lifestyle and then he himself does not live by his own rules, that make him a hypocrite.

 

[lone wolf]

Ah.... Another JP Squid session....

 

[TenPenny]

TenPenny, I never said that Duvall’s adultery made him a hypocrite. Read my original post. It is the fact that he committed adultery AND he used to preach to others how they should live their lives (he got 100% rating, from the conservative, family values organization, Capitol Resource Institute), that makes him a hypocrite.

I would never say that committing adultery would make somebody a hypocrite. Basically if someone preaches to others that they should live a certain lifestyle and then he himself does not live by his own rules, that make him a hypocrite.

You cannot say that, because you do not know what was in his heart.

 

[YukonJack]

SirJosephPorter's response to my two requests, i. e.:

1. Quote any of the Republicans he accuses of hypocrisy, IN THEIR OWN WORDS
2. What he thinks about Democrat scumbag, Don Siegelman

has been (so far) deafening silence.

No surprise. Hypocrites are silent when caught.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

You cannot say that, because you do not know what was in his heart.

I may not know what was in his heart, but I know perfectly well what he preached. He strongly opposed gay marriage, he strongly supported other ‘pro-family’ causes, abortion etc. (that is why he got a 100% rating from a far right organization).

He did not practice what he preached, that makes him a hypocrite.

 

[TenPenny]

I may not know what was in his heart, but I know perfectly well what he preached. He strongly opposed gay marriage, he strongly supported other ‘pro-family’ causes, abortion etc. (that is why he got a 100% rating from a far right organization).

He did not practice what he preached, that makes him a hypocrite.

No, it doesn't make him a hypocrite, because, by your own words, you do not know what was in his heart.

 

[YukonJack]

"He did not practice what he preached, that makes him a hypocrite."

The greatest proponent of homosexuality is you. At Least based on your posts.

So if you are NOT a homosexual, you are a hypocrite.

 

[AnnaG]

Ouite right, Cannuck. He truly is the man with the red-carpet-tongue. I wonder how the return loop is re threaded through the vocal mechanism?

It passes under the sole, past the eyelets, under the insole, and wiggles around on his heel.