Pot may prolong pain, not relieve it: Study

Cliffy

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Sure I read some of it but that's not really the point. You are acting like Joey, moving the goal posts when it's clear you've been hammered.

You are raving like a lunatic. I talk about corporations and you say I'm accusing someone I don't know of being a murderer. How did you make that leap? Who is changing the subject? You are setting up goal posts all over the place and accusing me of moving them. I beginning to think you are going through male menopause. Or did you get in touch with your feminine side and find out she's a bitch?:lol:
 

Unforgiven

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Smoking Pot Alters More Than Mood — Human Immune System Affected, USF/UCLA Study Finds

""This suggests marijuana or cannabinoids might benefit someone with chronic inflammatory disease, but not someone who has a chronic infectious disease such as HIV infection," said Dr. Klein, lead investigator of the study."

Pot is not as bad as its opponents would have us believe but it certainly isn't as good as its proponents suggest. Of course, there is also the loss of cognitive thinking skills associated with its use.

Memory, Speed of Thinking Get Worse over Time with Marijuana Use

"St. Paul, Minn. – Memory, speed of thinking and other cognitive abilities get worse over time with marijuana use, according to a new study published in the March 14, 2006, issue of Neurology, the scientific journal of the American Academy of Neurology.
The study found that frequent marijuana users performed worse than non-users on tests of cognitive abilities, including divided attention (ability to pay attention to more than one stimulus at a time) and verbal fluency (number of words generated within a time limit). Those who had used marijuana for 10 years or more had more problems with their thinking abilities than those who had used marijuana for five to 10 years. All of the marijuana users were heavy users, which was defined as smoking four or more joints per week."


One only has to read some of the posts on this forum to see the detrimental effects of marijuana.


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]March 9, 2006 - Utrecht, Netherlands

Utrecht, the Netherlands: Frequent cannabis use is not associated with cognitive deficits in memory or attention, according to trial data published in the forthcoming issue of the journal Psychopharmacology.

Investigators at the Rudolf Magnus Institute of Neuroscience assessed brain function in "frequent but relatively moderate" cannabis users in the domains of working memory and selective attention using functional magnetic resonance imagining (fMRI).

"No evidence was found for long-term deficits in working memory and selective attention in frequent cannabis users after one week of abstinence" compared to non-using healthy controls, authors concluded. "Furthermore, cannabis users did not differ from controls in terms of overall patterns of brain activity in the regions involved in these cognitive functions."

Previous trials on cannabis use and cognition have reached similar conclusions. An October 2004 study published in the journal Psychological Medicine examining the potential long-term residual effects of cannabis on cognition in monozygotic male twins reported "an absence of marked long-term residual effects of marijuana use on cognitive abilities."

A 2003 meta-analysis published in the Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society also "failed to reveal a substantial, systematic effect of long-term, regular cannabis consumption on the neurocognitive functioning of users who were not acutely intoxicated," and a 2002 clinical trial published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal determined, "Marijuana does not have a long-term negative impact on global intelligence."

For more information, please contact Paul Armentano, NORML Senior Policy Analyst, at (202) 483-5500. Full text of the study, "Long-term effects of frequent cannabis use on working memory and attention: an fMRI study," will appear in the journal Psychopharmacology. A summary of clinical studies assessing the impact of cannabis on cognition is available online at: http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6812
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Unforgiven

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Marijuana isn't harmless. But I'd rate it as less harmful to the individual and society than tobacco or alcohol. People who use these "legal products" and claim they don't use drugs are fooling themselves.

Well then how about you list the proof on the dangers associated with Cannabis right here? :lol:
 

Unforgiven

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You are raving like a lunatic. I talk about corporations and you say I'm accusing someone I don't know of being a murderer. How did you make that leap? Who is changing the subject? You are setting up goal posts all over the place and accusing me of moving them. I beginning to think you are going through male menopause. Or did you get in touch with your feminine side and find out she's a bitch?:lol:

Oh Cliffy. :roll:
You're being trolled, drawn into a position to defend something other than the topic you original posted on and frustrated in a distraction from the point. It's a bit of an old trick. Don't fall for it anymore.

The point is that posting a study bought and paid for based on the results isn't going to fly when people, like a number of those found on this forum, know it's bull, know the other studies on the same subject prove otherwise, and know that Canuck is doing nothing more than trolling the thread in order to get a bite and perhaps some entertainment.

The fact is, the more we study the real effects of Cannabis on humans, the more we reveal the pack of lies used to prohibit this wonderful plant.
 

darkbeaver

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Really? And just where have I said anything of the sort? Could this be a prime example of the cognitive problems I have been referring to?

It definitely is a prime example of cognitive problems. If you'll refer again to my post you'll see that I said "you seem" not "you said". Since you are an avowed non user of cannabis we can assume that your own diminutive cognitive abilitys must be the result of some other brain impairment, possibly congenital.
 

Unforgiven

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It definitely is a prime example of cognitive problems. If you'll refer again to my post you'll see that I said "you seem" not "you said". Since you are an avowed non user of cannabis we can assume that your own diminutive cognitive abilitys must be the result of some other brain impairment, possibly congenital.

Hello Alzheimer's!
 

Cannuck

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Since you are an avowed non user of cannabis we can assume that your own diminutive cognitive abilitys must be the result of some other brain impairment, possibly congenital.

Yet again...where have I said I was an avowed non user. You really do have a problem understanding the written word.
 

Unforgiven

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It will be a very short list.

So many people have been blindsided by the false claims of danger and out right lies about Cannabis that they don't know what is real or not any more. But even the slightest harm is inflated to near life and death so as to polarize the discussion thus grinding it to a halt.

jitteriness and nervousness
upset stomach
headaches
difficulty concentrating
difficulty sleeping
increased heart rate
increased blood pressure

This is what can happen from giving a kid a can of Coke.

Abruptly stopping caffeine may cause withdrawal symptoms (headaches, muscle aches, temporary depression, and irritability), especially for those who are used to consuming a lot.

Caffeine can aggravate heart problems or nervous disorders, and some kids may not be aware that they're at risk.

Yet pop is sold over the counter and in vending machines to anyone who has some money to buy it. Not in the government regulated stores where use can be regulated.

The biggest problem with Cannabis is that it's use makes people difficult to manage as they become less fearful of each other, open to new ideas and far more creative than destructive. Not so good for consumerism my friend.
 

coldstream

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No kidding a successful practice build on exhaustive hands on research and development spanning at least twelve thousand years, they say. High is a natural state of the balanced healthy body. People who don't like to be happy and therefore high suffer from repressed guilt complexes, they say. AH HA, it's a sin to be happy, maybe? ;-)


DB, I don't think dancing around a fire in a mystical trance counts as 'research', which probably wipes out all but 50 years of the 12 thousand years of your clinical evidence.

My own experience with it, and its been a while, is that apart from almost causing me to flunk out of college.. it made me paranoid, isolated, depressed, incommunicative and incomprehensible to those around me, with nonsensical 'insights' of utterly no value.. how much happiness can come from feeling completely alone, and steadily losing your grip on reality. :roll:
 

lone wolf

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DB, I don't think dancing around a fire in a mystical trance counts as 'research', which probably wipes out all but 50 years of the 12 thousand years of your clinical evidence.

My own experience with it, and its been a while, is that apart from almost causing me to flunk out of college.. it made me paranoid, isolated, depressed, incommunicative and incomprehensible to those around me, with nonsensical 'insights' of utterly no value.. how much happiness can come from feeling completely alone, and steadily losing your grip on reality. :roll:

It sounds like YOU had a problem. Toxins affect different people in different ways. My only problems with it were of the legal variety. Now, that doctor-prescribed junk on the other hand....
 

Cliffy

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DB, I don't think dancing around a fire in a mystical trance counts as 'research', which probably wipes out all but 50 years of the 12 thousand years of your clinical evidence.

My own experience with it, and its been a while, is that apart from almost causing me to flunk out of college.. it made me paranoid, isolated, depressed, incommunicative and incomprehensible to those around me, with nonsensical 'insights' of utterly no value.. how much happiness can come from feeling completely alone, and steadily losing your grip on reality. :roll:

That would explain your need for the crutch of religion. Your adherence to catholic dogma and your depressing world view is no different that the one pot highlighted back in the day. Pot does tend to exaggerate our neuroses. Many can't handle facing them.