I think you have to be a fat ugly guy to be a Tory so they don't have much choice.
Could Jason Kenny Be the Next PM
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I think you have to be a fat ugly guy to be a Tory so they don't have much choice.
lol It doesn't stop at Tories.
Look at this fat lump (that's Martin on the left):
and this thing sure ain't pretty. lol Hard to say if he's smiling or grimacing:
and look at this thing:
I'm not suggesting that Kenny couldn't or can't do anything. My argument is about whether he should. In your world, the public safety department makes rules and the immigration department ignores them. That is not a recipe for a well run and effective government. It is a recipe for a disjointed incremental approach to problem solving and is, in my opinion, one of the biggest problems we have in government. Far from being criticized, Kenny should be given a pat on the back for his handling of this case as well as the George Galloway incident.
First off, as much as I liked Jason Kenney as the head of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and approved of his performance as my MP while I was living in Calgary, I have doubts about him as an effective national leader. I think his work ethic and personality enable him in being an effective minister and party whip personality but he has issues that don't reflect well as far as Prime Ministerial ambitions go.
a) Central Canada does not trust Western leaders. Period. Ontario and Quebec are never happy unless they are constantly pandered to, whatever your feelings about how justified it is or not, and Western politicians tend to have less sensitivity in bruising Central Canadian feelings.
b) Kenney tends to be overly sarcastic and flippant at times. One of the occasions I remember best was in the Gay Marriage debate when he insisted homosexuals already had the right to be married in Canada... to a member of the opposite sex. That type of answer adds nothing to the debate of an important issue.
c) Kenney's social conservatism. He is one, although not perhaps as overt or well known for it as Harper. I think the CPC needs a social moderate if it wants to expand its appeal.
As for specifics, I think its a little early to be getting on Kenney over the Lennikov case: the fact that there are still ongoing legal avenues (such as the September judicial review as shown by a link above) says that the case is not closed, thus the Minister doesn't need to intervene. Ministers should be setting policy not micro-managing individual cases.
a) Central Canada does not trust Western leaders. Period. Ontario and Quebec are never happy unless they are constantly pandered to, whatever your feelings about how justified it is or not, and Western politicians tend to have less sensitivity in bruising Central Canadian feelings.
b) Kenney tends to be overly sarcastic and flippant at times. One of the occasions I remember best was in the Gay Marriage debate when he insisted homosexuals already had the right to be married in Canada... to a member of the opposite sex. That type of answer adds nothing to the debate of an important issue.
c) Kenney's social conservatism. He is one, although not perhaps as overt or well known for it as Harper. I think the CPC needs a social moderate if it wants to expand its appeal.
As for specifics, I think its a little early to be getting on Kenney over the Lennikov case: the fact that there are still ongoing legal avenues (such as the September judicial review as shown by a link above) says that the case is not closed, thus the Minister doesn't need to intervene. Ministers should be setting policy not micro-managing individual cases.
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Oh please. Substitute Alberta for Ontario and Quebec, and it's the same sentiment - the only difference is 65% of the population of the country is from Ontario/Quebec, and 10-15% is from Alberta. Perhaps if a leader from the West came and s/he wasn't a complete putz, the East would have no problem voting for them. There is much more anti-Eastern bias than Anti-Western bias, in my experience.
I would say points 2 and 3 would be a bigger reason why Ontario and Quebec would not vote for Kenney than point 1.
No. Albertans don't want to be pandered to. They generally want to see less of Ottawa than more. That's why the Dippers don't do particularly well in this province.
The basic concept of Canada from day 1 till somewhere later in the 20th century that the rest of Canada (lLower Canada and Rupert's Land) existed for the benefit of Upper Canada and in some ways still is that way. Most of Canadians cannot handle anyone from outside of Ontario or Quebec having their hands on the reins. Well guess where most Canadians live ...
Upper Canada is the orange bit:
Lower Canada is the green bit and the rest is Rupert's Land:
Upper Canada is the orange bit:
Lower Canada is the green bit and the rest is Rupert's Land:
Lower Canada is the green bit and the rest is Rupert's Land:
Feel free to learn some Canadian History.
Because, other than Upper Canada and Lower Canada, there was New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland, none of which are/were Rupert's Land.
That's not the sentiment I am referring to. I'm referring to the "do not trust Eastern leaders" sentiment.
BTW - most Ontario-ans don't want to be "pandered" to either. Perhaps Toronto is different, but where I live, we would rather the Feds back off some too. Check the electoral map - quite a few Conservatives were elected here.
You are wrong on that account as well. Albertans don't have a problem with eastern leaders. Peter MacKay would sell pretty good out here. Albertans have a problem with Quebec leaders...probably because the country has been screwed by them almost nonstop for the last 40 years.
Well, it's been a few years since I took history. And I hated it. lol Memorizing dates and events instead of what was important about the event that happened on such and such a date was/is a waste of brainspace.
I still think so.
They bitch a lot about leaders from Ontario as well... when I say "East" I mean Ontario/Quebec. Guess I should use "central" (although, in my mind, that's Manitoba...)