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Nuggler

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I'm too lazy to look it up again, quite a number allow open carry, but about 40 states allow some form of concealed carry, (will issue, shall issue or may issue licenses, there are nuances to each). I believe only Vermont and Alaska are "will issue" states where if you ask you will get.

My problem with open carry is that it invites a challenge, kinda like flashing four aces at a poker game. Me, I don't want a challenge, I don't want to show my cards unless or until the challenger shows me his/hers. If they also choose to hold their cards close there may be no challenge, or there may be some bluffing, I only want to have to show my cards when the bluff becomes real, then it comes down to not who has the bigger shinier shootin' iron, but who is better with the one they have. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, but better yet not to invite the need to need it.


True enough, Robert. An old friend of mine once said that they should never know you have a knife, till they feel it in their ribs...........Now, that's a bit over the top for me, but, that was him, eh.:cool:
 

bobnoorduyn

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lol Ok, Mr. Noorduyn. I think I understood that. I am sure that carrying an open sidearm would appear threatening to a lot of people. Hence all the licenses for concealed carrying. But that issue has its own problems, too. People might be more conscientious on the road if they knew the person they cut off had a Desert Eagle within reach. lmao

Actually, IMHO (to use the techno vernacular), I think that people would be more concientious if they even thought the other person on the road had a Desert Eagle. When you don't know what the other person has you might tend to be a bit more polite. The fact that I have witnessed armed (?) guards refilling bank machines with open firearms showing a gaping hole where the magazine should be leaves me shaking my head, but that's another issue altogether. All I'm saying is I should be allowed to keep my aces hidden, showing them attracts attention, not something I care for.
 

bobnoorduyn

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True enough, Robert. An old friend of mine once said that they should never know you have a knife, till they feel it in their ribs...........Now, that's a bit over the top for me, but, that was him, eh.:cool:

Yeah, but that's the problem with a knife, you pretty much have to use it for it to work. You can quickly bring a situation to a non violent conclusion pretty quickly when the bad guy is staring at the noisy end of a large bore pistol held by someone who knows how to use it. But knowing how to use it means you may have to bring it to a violent end too, bad guys can see that too, some don't, and only see a flash.
 

bobnoorduyn

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People might be more conscientious on the road if they knew the person they cut off had a Desert Eagle within reach. lmao

I just had to add that I do occasionally honk at inconsiderate drivers, my wife is quite polite and says, "you should be careful, they might be armed", to which I say, "well, so are we".
 

ironsides

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I'm not sure how that would work, as a Canadian I wouldn't be a resident even if I owned property there. I can't be a resident of two countries unless I have a work visa, and some sort of landed immigrant status there would negate my residence here. But I know I can go to Alaska and buy whatever I want at the Border Bandit store and while its legal there, the Mounties in Stewart won't let me bring it back here. Ho hum, guess that's why there's a long river, and an even longer border.


That is the catch, you would have to get a Florida drivers license becoming a resident along with owning a home to be able to purchase the pistol, no problem getting a rifle though, just give them the address your living at.
 

BornInToronto

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That is the catch, you would have to get a Florida drivers license becoming a resident along with owning a home to be able to purchase the pistol, no problem getting a rifle though, just give them the address your living at.
That's not quite so.

I am a Canadian citizen but an American resident. I moved to the USA about 12 years ago, and also have my permanent resident card (aka green card) from the INS.

When I first moved to the USA (Baltimore Maryland), I walked into the DMV, handed them my *expired* Canadian driver's license, and within 30 minutes, walked out with an American license. I did not have landed immigrant papers, I did not have a SSN (social security number <same as our SIN #'s>), but I did have to give them two pieces of mail (like my hydro & phone bills) and out I walked with my American driver's license.

It's not very hard to get a driver's license down here, and I have personally known people down here in Florida who have walked into a store and purchased a fire arm withOUT any sort of American ID.

Welcome to Florida!
 

ironsides

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Easier than I thought then, I recently moved to Florida, but never bought a rifle from a store here. Did get a "Concealed Weapon or Firearm License" though for buying a pistol. Not that easy in today's world to get a drivers license, 'Homeland Security" has gotten involved.
 

AnnaG

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Actually, IMHO (to use the techno vernacular), I think that people would be more concientious if they even thought the other person on the road had a Desert Eagle. When you don't know what the other person has you might tend to be a bit more polite. The fact that I have witnessed armed (?) guards refilling bank machines with open firearms showing a gaping hole where the magazine should be leaves me shaking my head, but that's another issue altogether. All I'm saying is I should be allowed to keep my aces hidden, showing them attracts attention, not something I care for.
That'd be my preference, too. After all, I am a lady, hardware isn't usually pretty although my own DE is black and gold colored and is quite pretty. It just seems incongrous strapped to the side of dresses. lol
 

AnnaG

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I just had to add that I do occasionally honk at inconsiderate drivers, my wife is quite polite and says, "you should be careful, they might be armed", to which I say, "well, so are we".
lol Hubby sits there and might say in his quiet voice, "Asshole". I have my head out the window letting the idiot know I think they are an idiot. lol There was a cop behind me one time. The person I screeched at found a parking spot, I found a parking spot (we were both headed for the same place), the cop mentioned that he would have a chat with the idiot but also that I should calm down. :D
 

AnnaG

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Now this I did not know. No one spoke of this at Woodstock.


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Nifty idea. My Dad is somewhat of a herbalist, though, he has remedies for a mass of discomforts and ailments; "Eye of newt, and toe of frog, Wool of bat, and tongue of dog, Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting, Lizard's leg, and owlet's wing, For a charm of powerful trouble, Like a hell-broth boil and bubble." and so on. lol (Thanks to Mr. W.S.) And it's too late anyway, I had two, that's enough. lol
 

bobnoorduyn

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lol Hubby sits there and might say in his quiet voice, "Asshole". I have my head out the window letting the idiot know I think they are an idiot. lol There was a cop behind me one time. The person I screeched at found a parking spot, I found a parking spot (we were both headed for the same place), the cop mentioned that he would have a chat with the idiot but also that I should calm down. :D

Yeah, sometimes its not worth my bother, unless they do something really dangerous. Just blow them a kiss, that usually really gets them miffed, well, in your case they may take it a bit differently ;-).
 

Dexter Sinister

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Better check Sask laws before you assume anything.
I'm assuming nothing, I'm stating a fact. The Public Legal Education Association of Saskatchewan publishes a pamphlet on criminal law, and in it, at the top of page 4, I find this" "A person may be fined or imprisoned for criminal offences or for provincial offences. Provincial offences are not criminal offences, but in some ways these two types of offences are alike. The Constitution of Canada gives the power to make criminal law only to the federal government." An offence against any provincial law is thus by definition not a crime.
 

AnnaG

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Yeah, sometimes its not worth my bother, unless they do something really dangerous. Just blow them a kiss, that usually really gets them miffed, well, in your case they may take it a bit differently ;-).
I have blown kisses from behind the wheel, but for a far different purpose than making them irritated. lol Sometimes I just honk, wave, and act friendly with a smile on my face, usually when I have anticipated they would do something insane. Not often, though.
 

petros

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I'm assuming nothing, I'm stating a fact. The Public Legal Education Association of Saskatchewan publishes a pamphlet on criminal law, and in it, at the top of page 4, I find this" "A person may be fined or imprisoned for criminal offences or for provincial offences. Provincial offences are not criminal offences, but in some ways these two types of offences are alike. The Constitution of Canada gives the power to make criminal law only to the federal government." An offence against any provincial law is thus by definition not a crime.
Does your pamphlet mention "hybrid offences" which are indictable until the crown decides on the charge?

Best check how they've changed the acts involved with driving without insurance to deal with chronic offenders and where a death has occured.
 

AnnaG

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Anyhooooooooooooo, last I heard, Gary Breitkreuz had a bill for dumping the registry. It makes sense to dump it. All we really need to do is enforce the firearms regs we had before and we'd be just as well off and we'd be wasting a lot less money.
 

petros

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Anyhooooooooooooo, last I heard, Gary Breitkreuz had a bill for dumping the registry. It makes sense to dump it. All we really need to do is enforce the firearms regs we had before and we'd be just as well off and we'd be wasting a lot less money.
Is it a gun registry or a gun owner registry or a criminal registry?
 

AnnaG

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You mean what we have right now? It's a firearms registry. I think that's what the thread is about, yes? Anyway, the registry doesn't work properly.
 

petros

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You mean what we have right now? It's a firearms registry. I think that's what the thread is about, yes? Anyway, the registry doesn't work properly.
Firearms can't register themselves so that makes it a firearm owner registry more than anything else and a misnomer.