Another Hypocrite Bites Dust!

talloola

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No assumptions...we have the facts.

No, you have no facts, you assume just as I am assuming, you're not fooling anyone, you're trashing him just because of his political party, not because
you think he is a hypocrite at all, if he was a republican you would not
trash him at all.



Do as he says, not as he does. Hypocrite
No, he's not a hypocrite, he is just like the rest of us, used to living in our
modern cushy little world, in which we are all responsible for, just because
he has the guts to start the ball rolling, and doesn't sit around waiting for
others to do it. Nothing hypocritical about that.
You are beating the word hypocrite to death, and it's becoming boring and
unbelievable, in the context you put it.



He should downsize or stop telling everyone else how to live.
And, you shouldn't be telling him how to live, do your own share of
cleaning up our earth, and learn how to do it, just as he is learning
on the job. Nothing hypocritical about that.
No need for anyone to downsize, just take care of 'what' you do have
in the cleanest method you can manage, and the rich are capable of
doing that much easier than the poor, they have the means to purchase
the latest technology, as I said before.

This isn't a thread about he being a hypocrite, it's a thread about trashing him because
he is a democrat and not a republican.
 

AnnaG

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If you aren't not going to tax the poor and middle class, then there's just not much use in taxing anyone- the numbers lie with the lower income groups.

JLM, there is no point in taxing the poor, you don’t raise a lot of revenues that way. I agree with you about middle class, significant revenues can be raised only by taxing the middle class. So middle class must be taxed.

Taxing the rich does not generate that much revenue, simply because there are not very many rich people. However rich people must be taxed because that is the fair thing to do. In the name of fairness, the rich must pay their share(and perhaps a bit more).
Sorry, Mr. Porter but you aren't quite right there. A little bit more than half of all personal income tax in both the States and Canada are paid by the rich.
 

EagleSmack

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No, you have no facts, you assume just as I am assuming, you're not fooling anyone, you're trashing him just because of his political party,


They ARE facts! He has multiple houses, travels the world in chartered jets, has caravans of limos and SUVs.

not because
you think he is a hypocrite at all,


I assure you...I believe he is the BIGGEST hypocrite on the political stage today. He is using you people for his own ego. He is the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen to be honest,

if he was a republican you would not
trash him at all.


That is so irrelevant. He is a liberal democrat and that is that. Oh and he is a hypocrite.


No, he's not a hypocrite, he is just like the rest of us, used to living in our
modern cushy little world, in which we are all responsible for,


No, you and I do not live a life of absolute luxury and waste while preaching to others to conserve.

just because
he has the guts to start the ball rolling,


Come on...guts?... you can't be serious. He has no guts. He will not even debate the opposition. He only speaks to people who will cheer him. He has never debated against anyone in opposition to global warming.

He has no guts at all.

and doesn't sit around waiting for
others to do it.


He doesn't do anything about his lavish lifestyle either.

Nothing hypocritical about that.
You are beating the word hypocrite to death, and it's becoming boring and
unbelievable, in the context you put it.


Really? It is all over this thread and all over your posts. In fact the thread has the word in it's title.

You just don't like me calling Al Bore what he is... a hypocrite.



He should downsize or stop telling everyone else how to live.
And, you shouldn't be telling him how to live,


I don't tell him how to live. I am just saying that he has a lot of nerve to tell the common man to conserve while he lives in the bogus lap of luxury. He has sacrificed nothing!

do your own share of
cleaning up our earth, and learn how to do it,


I do a heck of a lot more than that hypocrite.

just as he is learning
on the job. Nothing hypocritical about that.


Learning on the job. What is he doing?

No need for anyone to downsize, just take care of 'what' you do have
in the cleanest method you can manage, and the rich are capable of
doing that much easier than the poor, they have the means to purchase
the latest technology, as I said before.


Oh...can I go get an SUV? I can afford one and they are much nicer than my small economy car. I know it will be more in gas but I have the money to pay for that.

What about heating the house? Can i crank it up? I can afford it.

This isn't a thread about he being a hypocrite, it's a thread about trashing him because
he is a democrat and not a republican.

Oh no...it is about him being a hypocrite.
 

EagleSmack

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A friend of mine says that if Christians are all so fired up about spending eternity with their god, he would be more than obliging to help speed up the process. That would free up enough assets to wipe out the dept world wide.

So are you saying that your friend wants to kill Christians?
 

JLM

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I think it was (in his mind) a humanitarian gesture to assist them on their journey by speeding up the process.

I could see where one might think that way for a minute after having a couple of "Sunday morning visitors" peddling literature knocking on the door..:lol::lol::lol:
 

ironsides

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"No, you have no facts, you assume just as I am assuming, you're not fooling anyone, you're trashing him just because of his political party,"

What is wrong with trashing someone just because of their political party. That along is reason enough.
 

talloola

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"No, you have no facts, you assume just as I am assuming, you're not fooling anyone, you're trashing him just because of his political party,"

What is wrong with trashing someone just because of their political party. That along is reason enough.

No nothing wrong with that, it's just too bad that the politics get mixed up in
everything, and people are called names or accused of 'something or other' because they belong to the political party you don't like. The two points get
mixed up together. All of the republicans will say he is a hypocrite and all
of the democrats will say he isn't, doesn't prove anything but 'who' likes one
party or the other, and doesn't prove if he 'is' or 'isn't' actually a hypocrite.
Hence, the point I made earlier, if he was a republican, all of the opinions
would be the opposite.
 

Cannuck

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No nothing wrong with that, it's just too bad that the politics get mixed up in everything, and people are called names or accused of 'something or other' because they belong to the political party you don't like.
I don't know where you get this idea that people are trashing Gore because of the party he belongs to. He's a hypocrite and he would be a hypocrite regardless of his party affiliation. I think you like him, you like the Democrats and you are defending him because of that. Not everybody is like you. I think Gore is a hypocrite and I think Rush Limbaawww is a hypocrite. Makes no difference to me which way they swing.
All of the republicans will say he is a hypocrite and all of the democrats will say he isn't, doesn't prove anything but 'who' likes one party or the other, and doesn't prove if he 'is' or 'isn't' actually a hypocrite.
What about people like me that don't support either?How do you account for us?
Hence, the point I made earlier, if he was a republican, all of the opinions would be the opposite.
No, I would still call him a hypocrite. I base that label on his actions, not the party he's in. You should try judging people on their actions as well. It can be somewhat liberating.
 

JLM

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No nothing wrong with that, it's just too bad that the politics get mixed up in
everything, and people are called names or accused of 'something or other' because they belong to the political party you don't like. The two points get
mixed up together. All of the republicans will say he is a hypocrite and all
of the democrats will say he isn't, doesn't prove anything but 'who' likes one
party or the other, and doesn't prove if he 'is' or 'isn't' actually a hypocrite.
Hence, the point I made earlier, if he was a republican, all of the opinions
would be the opposite.

Yep, it sure is a coincidence isn't it how people with the exact same political beliefs happen to have the exact same religious beliefs. At the peril of being accused of hate mongering I'm going to say there is very little of either, that I believe, beyond the fact there is a "God" or supreme power but I don't think that pertains to politics...............:lol::lol:
 

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Cliffy; said:
A friend of mine says that if Christians are all so fired up about spending eternity with their god, he would be more than obliging to help speed up the process. That would free up enough assets to wipe out the dept world wide.



Amen!
 

ironsides

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The system needs reform, not a government take over. The government is full of corrupt politicians who get themselves richer and richer...and the liberals just worship at there feet like they are the gods in government. At what point in our life did they decide that we are helpless and cannot take care of ourselves? And we need some government burocrat to help you and make your decisions for you....Why is it the liberals want to sacrifice who we are as an individual to be part of the collective? Some people work harder than others, some people have more desire than others, some are more willing to take risk than others, those people should be rewarded, not punished. Eventually the whole country is going to look like CA, broke and buried in a huge government autocracy with no way to pay for it. We cannot raise taxes high enough to pay for what CA is doing. The great liberal experiment is a total failure. All you have done is replace people's ambition with dependency. Still we keep voting into national office those fools who helped bankrupt the state of California.

 

JLM

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The system needs reform, not a government take over. The government is full of corrupt politicians who get themselves richer and richer...and the liberals just worship at there feet like they are the gods in government. At what point in our life did they decide that we are helpless and cannot take care of ourselves? And we need some government burocrat to help you and make your decisions for you....Why is it the liberals want to sacrifice who we are as an individual to be part of the collective? Some people work harder than others, some people have more desire than others, some are more willing to take risk than others, those people should be rewarded, not punished. Eventually the whole country is going to look like CA, broke and buried in a huge government autocracy with no way to pay for it. We cannot raise taxes high enough to pay for what CA is doing. The great liberal experiment is a total failure. All you have done is replace people's ambition with dependency. Still we keep voting into national office those fools who helped bankrupt the state of California.


You've pretty well put my entire philosophy in a nutshell- BUT I think there has to be a humanitarian side for things like seeing to the well being of children, and those with physical and mental defects- but always looking toward a goal of all people being successful and self-sufficient to the best of their ability. There has to be some compassion for the broken man but in the way of a helping hand - not pity.
 

ironsides

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They always had compassion for the broken (out of work) person, it was to take care of them for 6 months while they actively had to look for a job. They did grant extensions if they could prove that they were really looking. All that changed though in the early 1960's has since evolved to what we have now.
 

gopher

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Can't speak for Canada, but here in the USA we are a lot happier and more optimistic about our future when there's a Dem in the White House. In fact many of my former Republican pals have either left that party or stopped voting altogether as they are mightily disappointed in the GOP.
 

normbc9

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Boy Gopher you sure have a way with words. Here in my area the Republicans have shrunk in spite of the population growth. Many are very disenchanted and Newt and his crew are not the answer to the fix they so desperately need. The recent record of misdeeds by some of their best and brightest doesn't help either. Right now the Registrar of Voters roles reveal there are a lot more registered Independents and I'll bet that is where the former GOP members are heading to.
 

EagleSmack

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Boy Gopher you sure have a way with words. Here in my area the Republicans have shrunk in spite of the population growth. Many are very disenchanted and Newt and his crew are not the answer to the fix they so desperately need. The recent record of misdeeds by some of their best and brightest doesn't help either. Right now the Registrar of Voters roles reveal there are a lot more registered Independents and I'll bet that is where the former GOP members are heading to.

I would bet a lot of people are going "unenrolled". It used to be called Independant until the Independant Party was formed. I was a Democrat and changed to "unenrolled". I was a Democrat because my parents were and I was a Union Member at one time but changed.
 

ironsides

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Here goes one source of clean energy, sure everyone wants to build the 'Wind farm", but no one want to build the new infrastructure needed to trnsmit the power. Pickens talked the walk, but couldn't walk the walk.


Reuters) – Texas oil billionaire T. Boone Pickens has called off plans to build the world's biggest wind farm in the Texas Panhandle, the Wall Street Journal said.
Pickens said the wind farm project was scuttled partly because of the lack of adequate transmission lines to carry the electricity from remote locations to cities, according to the paper.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090708/bs_nm/us_pickens_windfarm