....... or Liberal gov't. lol'' since when has our government shown acuity towards reality?''
Certainly not when you had a conservative government.
Democratically Elected President Is Ousted By Fascists In Honduras
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So far I have yet to see any condemnation of the fascist overthrow of that popular government that has majority support.
When Saddam was illegally toppled by Bush there were some celebrations on the streets. Celebrations that were orchestrated by there was at least some approval.
By contrast, there have been massive anti-fascist protests in Honduras and parts of the world. The reason for this being obvious.
Cool. I'm just noticing what I notice and commenting. I also noticed that you've typically been socialist. Something's changed? Fascism is much like socialism.
Still holding on to the good ol'd days Gopher? How many times have you come in and said...
"Remember when Bush did..." or "Remember the right wingers when Bush..."
It's over Gopher. Bush his gone. Get over it.
Indeed it was. The Honduran President had a less than 30% approval rating. These left wing presidents know that eventually they will be voted out of office so they need to get as much done to shore up their power. To change the constitutions so they can continually run for office and steal the elections like they did in Iran.
The good people of Honduras so this for what it was...a new Chavez.
And they did.
You are forgetting the congress of Honduras is also elected, and the congress forced the president out. A power they have, in fact a power most congresses have. He was president of the country, not ruler of the country. He was one elected official, he forced out by the rest of the elected official. The new president is also an elected official..elected with the knowledge that he could become president in cases just like this.
Have you forgotten Nixon was forced out?
A lot of local powers (What are often refered to as Imperial) with strong influence are upset with the changes to what they view as their domain, this is most notable in Venezuala and the USA. Both of whom used to be Colonial powers in Honduras (as Gran Columbia and United Fruit) respectively.
''I also noticed that you've typically been socialist.''
LOL! you haven't read my posts pal. Who else on this forum called for the elimnation of the Income Tax like I did?
Do your homework buddy.
LOL! you haven't read my posts pal. Who else on this forum called for the elimnation of the Income Tax like I did?
Do your homework buddy.
''Have you forgotten Nixon was forced out?''
I cannot believe the ignorance on this forum. Nixon resigned when he was impeached by the Democratic majority in the House of Representatives. There was no coup at that time and he was not forced out.
I cannot believe the ignorance on this forum. Nixon resigned when he was impeached by the Democratic majority in the House of Representatives. There was no coup at that time and he was not forced out.
''30 % approval rating''
There were over 10,000 who protested in his favor:
AFP: Zelaya faces arrest in Honduras as protests rise
In a tiny country like that this represents a huge part of the population.
By the way, nobody protested when Nixon resigned. LOL!
There were over 10,000 who protested in his favor:
AFP: Zelaya faces arrest in Honduras as protests rise
In a tiny country like that this represents a huge part of the population.
By the way, nobody protested when Nixon resigned. LOL!
When discussing things of this nature, intelligent discussion, is the furthest thing from the minds of the morally bankrupt left.
Funny, this asshat was trying to circumvent democracy, yet you endorse him...morally bankrupt left at its best.
But he leans left Trex, therefore the morally bankrupt left love him.
Now had he been a right wing dictator wannbe, in bed with the US, this would be seen as a great victory...;-)
Thanx for the facts Z...
Unless of course he's a right wing dictator wannbe that doesn't sit well with the morally bankrupt left...right gopher?
Funny, we still do have a Conservation Gov't. They would be the formal Gov't that draft that condemnation...;-)Certainly not when you had a conservative government.
It didn't have majority support. He failed to have the laws changed prior to the end of his term. The election was a fruad. He was inelligable to be on the ballot. The duly elected Congress of Honduras voted to have him ousted. He lost.
Only the morally bankrupt left see erroneous behavior from some yet to be disclosed "fascist" boogieman here.
I have, and you certainly are a card carrying member of the morally bankrupt left gopher. You continuously dismiss fact, evidence and commonsense to hold up your strawman theories and silly love of all left wing dictators.
Don't hold your breath, with gopher and the morally bankrupt left, you'll be waiting a long time.
Too funny!
I LOVE how you call other people on this forum ignorant and in the same post claim that Nixon was impeached.
Nixon was NEVER impeached. Only two presidents were impeached... Johnson and CLINTON.
Now who is ignorant?
A coup such as this - when a government, even a democratically elected one, is displaced by armed force - is more likely to happen in a republic than a constitutional monarchy because in a constitutional monarchy, the non-political monarch is Head of the Armed Forces, so a would-be dictator CANNOT control the Armed Forces, whereas in a republic the Head of Government is usually Head of the Armed Forces.
Another reason why constitutional monarchy is a better system of governance than a republic, no matter what jealous republicans say.
The last coup in Britain occurred way back in 1688, when the protestant William of Orange deposed the catholic King James II to establish parliamentary democracy.
We in Britain can be thankful that our constitutional monarchy has given us political stability that probably no other country on the planet can match.
"We should all bear carefully in mind the constitutional safeguards inherent in the monarchy:
While the Queen occupies the highest office of state, no one can take over the government. While she is head of the law, no politician can take over the courts. While she is ultimately in command of the Armed Forces, no would-be dictator can take over the Army.
The Queen’s only power, in short, is to deny power to anyone else. Any attempt to tamper with the royal prerogative must be firmly resisted."
D G O Hughes, letter to The Daily Telegraph, 1st September 1998.
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The most odious and repressive regimes in the 20th century have ‘people’s’ or ‘democratic’ in their names, and that is no accident. The theoretical basis for democracy, egalitarianism, was responsible for the worst excesses of the French revolution; little blood was shed in support of liberty and fraternity. Had the hereditary principle been upheld in places as diverse as Libya, Greece, Albania, even Russia, had those monarchies not been overthrown and replaced by monstrous people's regimes, the very lives, never mind prosperity, of those peoples would have been saved.
It is not necessary to try to prove the superiority of the hereditary principle over mass democracy, nor to spend much time over democracy’s supposed greatest achievement - the US.
Peter Scanlan, letter to Country Life, 4th February 1999.
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Britain’s constitutional monarchy is one of its greatest strengths as well as one of its greatest attractions. The monarch is detached from party politics in a way no president could be. For years, the existence of a monarchy was the guarantee that no would-be dictator could stage a coup by deploying troops, as the monarch controls the armed services. No latter-day Cromwell could win power by force. We have had no civil war since Cromwell’s and much of that is due to having had a constitutional monarchy as a focus of loyalty.
Ann Widdecombe MP, BBC History Magazine, September 2000.
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He(Nixon) resigned because the other option was being impeached and forcibley removed, he resignd right before the impeachent vote went down, he did not want to go down in history as the first US president to be impeached (as the senate would not acquit him like they did Johnson and would later Clinton). He decided to take what grace he had left and go. Likewise Zelaya was impeached the majority of congress with approval from the supreme court, he decided not to resign but to drag this out.