Another Hypocrite Bites Dust!!!

[TenPenny]

Promise keepers KEEP THEIR PROMISE.

Only to a liberal is keeping a promise is a fault.

So, can you explain how having an extramarital affair is keeping his promise?
I think I missed that class.

 

[EagleSmack]

EagleSmack, I just heard in the news that Ensign has stepped down from the chairmanship of a Congressional committee (apparently he was chairman of some committee). So he did pay a price for his hypocrisy.

No...he did what is right

If this had been a Democratic Senator having sex with his staffer, I doubt that he would have to step down. As Niflmir pointed out, it is the hypocrisy that is important, not the adultery. Adultery is not illegal; it is between him and his wife.

Because the Dems hardly ever do what is right. As I pointed out the Dems use the family values speech just as much. They think it is perfectly OK.

Just like Congressman Barney Frank allowing his lover to run a prostitution ring out of his apartment. He saw nothing wrong with it.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

The Dems response to an attack on their own is to quickly point out past GOP incidents and calls the GOP hypocrits. They say that their private lives are their own business and that the GOP is "mean spirited" in their attacks.

And they are right in saying so, EagelSmack. Ensign’s private life is his own and nobody’s business. He is not being attacked for adultery. That is between himself, his wife, his mistress and the mistress’ husband, nobody else’s business.

Ensign is paying the political price for hypocrisy, not for adultery,

 

[EagleSmack]

That had nothing to do with hypocrisy, EagleSmack. Thomas was being considered for the Supreme Court and it was the duty of all the Senators to enquire into his credentials for it.

So wanting to see if Clarence Thomas rented adult videos (which is legal) was the duty of the committee?

It was a Democratic attempt to give an African American a high tech lynching for daring to not kneel before the liberals.

That had nothing to do with hypocrisy. If Kenney et al had been guilty of some objectionable conduct; their constituents will deal with it. Same as Thomas’ constituents (in this case the Senators) had to deal with his credentials.

He was guilty as he pleaded guilty to lesser charges. He was a married man who left a party (drunk) with a young woman and drove off a bridge. Instead of going to the police he walked home and called his lawyers and got the Kennedy machine rolling. The next day they decided to call the police and inform them many hours later that he had driven off a bridge and their was a woman still in the car.

So to have him question anyones morals is hypocritical.

Incidentally, I still don’t think he should have been confirmed. He is the most loyal Republican on the bench; he simply closes his eyes and votes Republican on each and every issue. Thus when the Texas Sodomy law was before the Supreme Court (which made sodomy a crime punishable by ten years of imprisonment), Thomas again closed his eyes and voted the official Republican Party line, he voted to uphold the law. Fortunately other Justices were not so partisan, the law was struck down.

Gee...what a surprise! I never would have thought that.

In my opinion, Thomas is the weakest member of the bench; I think he was confirmed just because he was black. At least a few Senators were guilted into voting for him. Had he been white, he would have suffered the same fate as Robert Bork.

Weakest because he doesn't think like you?

He was attacked by old liberal white senators because he was an African American who dared not kneel to pay hommage to them.

 

[EagleSmack]

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And they are right in saying so, EagelSmack. Ensign’s private life is his own and nobody’s business. He is not being attacked for adultery. That is between himself, his wife, his mistress and the mistress’ husband, nobody else’s business.

Ensign is paying the political price for hypocrisy, not for adultery,

Really?

Did Ensign start this thread?

 

[YukonJack]

No one is a worse hypocrit than the pro baby-killing (delicately and falsely called pro-choice) Catholic Democrats who belly up to the altar and have the nerve of taking communion.

Like John Kerry and Teddy Kennedy. Nancy Pelosi. And many more.

The one that is possibly worse hypocrite is the Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard the totally senile Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia. Or the former marine who forgot the Marine credo, the pathetic John Murtha. Or "This war is Lost", Harry Reid. Or former joke of a President, Jimminy Cricket Carter. Or William Jeffrerson Clinton.

Hypocrisy is far more than just sex or adultery. The Democrats/liberals are the perfect proof of that. At least republicans/conservatives do not denigrate their own country.

 

[YukonJack]

Response to posts #40 and 41.

I realize that some promises we give we will not keep. At least not 100% of the time. But if one of the Promise Keepers failed (feel document it otherwise) one among thousands (or perhaps millions) that is not a shabby record. Could those of liberal persuation claim otherwise?

Once again, SirJosephPorter, I ask you to provide a link where it says that the Promise Keepers and those who believe in what the Promise Keepers believe in is keeping wives slaves - as you claim. Are you stomped? No surprise. Your mouth usually runs way ahead of your brain.

TenPenney, you were, obviously, SirJosephPorter's classmate.

 

[Cliffy]

Promise keepers KEEP THEIR PROMISE.

Only to a liberal is keeping a promise is a fault.

And only you don't get the story and the reason for it because you are blinded by your right wing view that the right wing can do no wrong. He didn't keep his promise. Having an affair is a breach of the marriage vows. He preached one thing and did the opposite. That is hypocrisy. You are being contrary for the sake of being contrary. Get over yourself.

 

[TenPenny]

TenPenney, you were, obviously, SirJosephPorter's classmate.

I don't follow you.

I'm simply pointing out that he is a hypocrite for not keeping a promise. As a well-publicized member of the Promise Keepers, he publicly makes an issue out of his promise keeping. When he doesn't keeep that promise, and on top of that engages in behaviour that he condemns in others, that makes him a hypocrite.

Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm fairly sure that you can follow that. Don't go adding other issues, like abortion, or party affiliation, to my comments. I'm not cutting this on party lines. My issue is, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

[YukonJack]

Response to #48 and #49:

Appreciate your replies.

However, you obvoiusly never had a chance to my post #47.

Nobody is perfect. And nobody is a perfect hypocrit.

Only conservatives, in the minds of malicious liberal bastards who never miss an opportunity to bash conservatives, but never say boo when a liberal is caught in the web.

 

[TenPenny]

Nobody is perfect. And nobody is a perfect hypocrit.

Are you saying that a promise isn't really a promise, because nobody is perfect, and therefore we should expect them to fail?

I read your post, and you don't make any sense.
Just because nobody is perfect, that doesn't rule out them being a hypocrite for doing exactly what they criticise in others, and also promise not to do.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

He was guilty as he pleaded guilty to lesser charges. He was a married man who left a party (drunk) with a young woman and drove off a bridge. Instead of going to the police he walked home and called his lawyers and got the Kennedy machine rolling. The next day they decided to call the police and inform them many hours later that he had driven off a bridge and their was a woman still in the car.

EagleSmack, I assume you are referring to Kennedy. He was given the due process of law. It was up to his constituents to pass judgment on his morals, and apparently they don’t have any problem with him.

So to have him question anyones morals is hypocritical.

And just when did he question anybody’s morals?

He was attacked by old liberal white senators because he was an African American who dared not kneel to pay hommage to them.

As I recall, Thomas was approved by a 52 to 48 vote, he just managed to squeak through. At least a handful of Senators were quilted into voting for him because he is black. That is why I said, if he had been white, he would have gone the way of Robert Bork.

 

[karrie]

Now here's something that struck me as funny... is a Promise Keeper hypocritical if he fails in his personal quest to be accountable?

If you go on a diet, and you slip up and eat chocolate one day, does that make you a hypocrite? No.

If you go to church, and you commit what you consider to be a sin, does that make you a hypocrite? No.

It's only if you are treading that path to push it on others that you turn into a hypocrite if you don't follow it. But from what I read about Promise Keepers, it's a personal path, kind of like AA, or your diet, or your workout commitment.

Considering that this guy obviously had troubles upholding his marriage vows, I think the AA comparison is even more apt.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

No one is a worse hypocrit than the pro baby-killing (delicately and falsely called pro-choice) Catholic Democrats who belly up to the altar and have the nerve of taking communion.

Like John Kerry and Teddy Kennedy. Nancy Pelosi. And many more.

That is not hypocrisy Yukon, that is theological disagreement. Apparently these politicians and their priests don’t think there is anything wrong with holding pro choice views and taking communion.

Anyway, as I recall, a great majority of Catholics disagree with Pope’s teaching on abortion and contraception. If Pope banned all those from taking communion, Catholic Church will go out of business overnight..

The one that is possibly worse hypocrite is the Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard the totally senile Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia.

That is nonsense, how is Byrd a hypocrite?

Or the former marine who forgot the Marine credo, the pathetic John Murtha. Or "This war is Lost", Harry Reid. Or former joke of a President, Jimminy Cricket Carter. Or William Jeffrerson Clinton.

These are all politicians with whom you disagree. They may not be right in your opinion, but to lump them together as hypocrites is nonsense. How are any of them guilty of hypocrisy?

 

[YukonJack]

The liberal Democrats added a new word to the English language, a synonym to hate, personal destruction, in other words typical liberalism: BORKING.

With the same credentials a Black, Hispanic, gay or any female would have strolled right thru. But to the politically correct yahooes, like Joe Biden and Ted Kennedy, Bork needed to be borked.

In all fairness same thing should happen to Sotomayor.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Response to #48 and #49:

Appreciate your replies.

However, you obvoiusly never had a chance to my post #47.

Nobody is perfect. And nobody is a perfect hypocrit.

Only conservatives, in the minds of malicious liberal bastards who never miss an opportunity to bash conservatives, but never say boo when a liberal is caught in the web.

Sorry Yukon, but when it comes to hypocrisy, conservatives are the masters at it, hands down. Conservatives are always telling others who they should live their lives, liberals generally tend to avoid preaching and moralizing.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

The liberal Democrats added a new word to the English language, a synonym to hate, personal destruction, in other words typical liberalism: BORKING.

With the same credentials a Black, Hispanic, gay or any female would have strolled right thru. But to the politically correct yahooes, like Joe Biden and Ted Kennedy, Bork needed to be borked.

In all fairness same thing should happen to Sotomayor.

Bork was ‘borked’ because he held extreme right wing views. As I recall, he was defeated by 58 to 42 vote, which means that several Republicans voted against confirming him. The opposition to Bork was bipartisan.

 

[JLM]

Not so true. When Clarence Thomas was going through his Supreme Court Hearings the Democrats found out that he rented videos. They wanted to get the list to see if he had rented porn so that they could shame him.

Sen Ted Kennedy led the charge against Clarence Thomas with the Anita Hill accusations. Teddy, the man who had a fling with Mary Jo Kopechne and drove her into a watery grave and took off leaving her to drown was the champion of moral values in those hearings seeking to electronically lynch an African American jurist.

Who was being hypocritical.

It's all about shaming the other party.

You're always on a slippery slope when judging other's marriages, affairs etc. I strongly believe in "to death do us part", but once in awhile a guy picks himself up a real bitch.

 

[petros]

Appreciate your replies.

However, you obvoiusly never had a chance to my post #47.

Nobody is perfect. And nobody is a perfect hypocrit.

Only conservatives, in the minds of malicious liberal bastards who never miss an opportunity to bash conservatives, but never say boo when a liberal is caught in the web.

Sorry Yukon, but when it comes to hypocrisy, conservatives are the masters at it, hands down. Conservatives are always telling others who they should live their lives, liberals generally tend to avoid preaching and moralizing.

Do you honestly deep down believe that these two parties are seperate in their goals and aims and that each has it's own vision and plan?

 

[YukonJack]

"That is not hypocrisy Yukon, that is theological disagreement. Apparently these politicians and their priests don’t think there is anything wrong with holding pro choice views and taking communion."

So, Ensign may not have thought that his infidelity and adultery was hypocritical. He may have just thought that it was theological dsagreement.

So, to recall your favourite phrase: provide links when you say:

"Anyway, as I recall, a great majority of Catholics disagree with Pope’s teaching on abortion and contraception."

What poll, what survey???

"...how is Byrd a hypocrite?"

Look up his history. Travel thru West Virginia.

"These are all politicians with whom you disagree. They may not be right in your opinion, but to lump them together as hypocrites is nonsense. How are any of them guilty of hypocrisy?"

Their actions, votes and words clearly groups them in the "do as I say, not as I do" category. and THAT is hypocrisy.