Taking shoes off at peoples homes...

kiwi_NZ

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I'd take my shoes off as a polite gesture, and if the people you're visiting didn't mind you having the shoes on, they'd say not to bother and just come on in as you are. :) It's just the social thing to do, I guess.

So it is a pretty standard thing to do and the home owner is likely to be offended if you didn't take your shoes off then. Thank you as coming from different cultures it is best to understand what is the norm and what is expected.

I'm a really easy going person so don't really have expectations as such and I don't wave a sword (lol)

diarygirl I would love to have dinner at your place and I'll bring my own slippers! *smiles*
 

SirJosephPorter

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And as Nuggler mentioned, those shoes going up your rear if you ever think of wearing shoes in someone's home are not just some fluffy slippers. Have you ever seen those weapons... er, sorry, I meant pointy shoes that some women wear? Why do you think they wear those? It's so they can reach further up aftr a goo kicking.

Machjo, do you watch Married with Children? It is one of my favorite shows. In one episode, exactly the same thing happened. Marcy was annoyed at Jefferson (he got a tattoo of her name, but instead of ‘I love Marcy’, it came out I love Mary’), so she kicked him so hard that she actually lodged her pointy shoe inside his ass. He had to go to hospital to get it out.
 

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So what is it like in Kiwiland? Now I've got images of everyone clunking through homes in their streetshoes dragging in the dirt.

Well, I guess we can't blame you. After all, we're just a more evolved version of the British.
 

Diarygirl

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Ahhh kiwi_NZ, I'd love to have you..... :) I wouldn't mind you coming in with your clean shoes on as it only takes a quick mopping after you're gone to clean up!
Machjo....you on the other hand, would have to be very careful as I may have my stiletto heels on! LOL
 

kiwi_NZ

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When I go to visit somebody, I always take the shoes off at the door, unless the lady of the house specifically tells me that it is OK to leave them on. When somebody visits us, we expect them to take off the shoes as soon as they enter our house. We even have a small bench right next to the door expressly for that purpose.

If somebody doesn’t take his shoes off, we probably won’t say anything (we are good hosts), especially if the shoes are clean, but we won’t like it.

Kiwi, to be on the safe side, I would suggest that if you visit any Canadians in their homes, you take your shoes off at the entrance.

Incidentally, in the third world it is customary to take your shoes off at the door. Even if you visit Hindu temple, or a mosque, they expect you to remove your shoes when you enter.

I remember when President Carter visited India, he visited a Hindu temple. But of course, you don’t ask the President to take off his shoes. So they gave him specially made silk slippers to wear (on top of his shoes). If silk touched the floor of the temple, it is no big deal, silk is cloth. But I think such exceptions are made only for Presidents. Everybody else takes their shoes off.

Anyway, I think it is only good manners to remove ones shoes when one visits somebody. Even most tradesmen who enter our house take off their shoes without us asking them.

So remember, to be on the safe side, remove the shoes.


Thank you for such a detailed explanation, truly appreciated and said with kindness which is always polite.

It's amazing that such a simple Q attracted such a response but I take from that for it to be a very important part of the Canadian culture and that's okay with me.

I feel really uncomfortable with my shoes off and should I go to dinner at someones home I will know to take them off. Yes, in most Asian cultures this is standard practise and that is std here in NZ with our large Asian communities. Just not standard among Kiwi as the "norm".

What about if a guest is cold and wants to leave his / her coat on? Is that seen as just as rude?
 

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Ahhh kiwi_NZ, I'd love to have you..... :) I wouldn't mind you coming in with your clean shoes on as it only takes a quick mopping after you're gone to clean up!
Machjo....you on the other hand, would have to be very careful as I may have my stiletto heels on! LOL

See Kiwi. If you treat a woman like a lady, she'll be kind in return. But if you treat them like I do, now you see what ya get. Now I fall into the monk category.
 

Machjo

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Thank you for such a detailed explanation, truly appreciated and said with kindness which is always polite.

It's amazing that such a simple Q attracted such a response but I take from that for it to be a very important part of the Canadian culture and that's okay with me.

I feel really uncomfortable with my shoes off and should I go to dinner at someones home I will know to take them off. Yes, in most Asian cultures this is standard practise and that is std here in NZ with our large Asian communities. Just not standard among Kiwi as the "norm".

What about if a guest is cold and wants to leave his / her coat on? Is that seen as just as rude?

OK, on a serious note. If i should offer a person slippers and he asked to keep his shoes on, I might say yes, but would certainly not be offended. I'd probably just guess that he's got some good reason that's none of my business as to why he needs to keep his shoes on. I know that I'd need a good reason to ask to keep my shoes on and so would not be able to ask such a question lightly. For that reason, if someone else asked me to keep their shoes on, I'd just figure they've got a good rason for it.
 

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Quoting SirJosephPorter
Machjo, do you watch Married with Children? It is one of my favorite shows.

That explaines alot.

It certainly does, Machjo. I am thinking of posting a thread on my most favorite comedy show (and it is not married with Children, though it is one of my most favorite shows). But that will involve briefly reviewing all the comedy shows I have watched so far (and I have watched a lot of them, both American and British comedies). It will take a lot of writing. Some day I will get around to it.
 

Diarygirl

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LOL again Machjo....it's a woman thing!
Kiwi-NZ, I'd offer you a sweater if you were cold. Most people have enough heat in their homes to keep you warm though. Either way, I wouldn't be offended though if you wanted to keep your coat on. It all depends on the individual that you're visiting, I believe, where I come from, it's pretty normal to just be yourself. Unless you're going to visit new friends and don't know how they expect you to act. Feel the people out and look at how relaxed they are with their abode! Just use your natural instinct!
 

kiwi_NZ

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So what is it like in Kiwiland? Now I've got images of everyone clunking through homes in their streetshoes dragging in the dirt.

Well, I guess we can't blame you. After all, we're just a more evolved version of the British.

I guess us Kiwi's are probably a little more relaxed, down to earth and not miffed about such things or wouldn't be offended and (lol) no, we wouldn't traipse through someones home with muddy boots on. We would either not go inside, or change our shoes, or take them off ... but most Kiwi's if you came to their door and you started taking your shoes off they would say heck no, leave your shoes on.

The reason I asked the Q in the first place is where I am going for Xmas the home owner / lady of the house in Edmonton was really quite staunch and I felt so uncomfortable with her response as to me not wearing my own slippers or slipping something over my footwear that I'm now not sure if I would like to have Xmas at her home ?? What do you recommend I do or say? As it has become unpleasant?
 

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Just to clarify, SJP, since I know that sarcasm is not always obvious online, in this particular thread, unless stated otherwise, I've been responding humorously, so please don't take my comments in this thread seriously except those I've stated are serious.

I'm sure you understood it anyway, but just to be on the safe side.
 

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Thank you for such a detailed explanation, truly appreciated and said with kindness which is always polite.

What about if a guest is cold and wants to leave his / her coat on? Is that seen as just as rude?

Doesn’t’ happen, Kiwi. Canada has central heating everywhere (it is the law) and Canadians keep their homes at a comfortable temperature. I understand central heating is not a standard in New Zealand and it is not uncommon for people to wear sweaters, coats etc. indoors. But it doesn’t happen in Canada.

So there is little chance that you will be cold in a Canadian home. And if you are, I don’t think the hostess would feel offended, she will simply turn up the central heating for your benefit. But it is extremely unlikely that you will feel cold.
 

kiwi_NZ

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I certainly don't mean to offend anyone at all in Canada if that is the way things are...

See, I couldn't imagine eating my dinner smelling peoples feet, that would gross me out..

Maybe I'll just eat out (lol) ... Where do I buy Poutine, ha! ooh, and pumpkin pie? So want to try those two dishes :)
 

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I guess us Kiwi's are probably a little more relaxed, down to earth and not miffed about such things or wouldn't be offended and (lol) no, we wouldn't traipse through someones home with muddy boots on. We would either not go inside, or change our shoes, or take them off ... but most Kiwi's if you came to their door and you started taking your shoes off they would say heck no, leave your shoes on.

The reason I asked the Q in the first place is where I am going for Xmas the home owner / lady of the house in Edmonton was really quite staunch and I felt so uncomfortable with her response as to me not wearing my own slippers or slipping something over my footwear that I'm now not sure if I would like to have Xmas at her home ?? What do you recommend I do or say? As it has become unpleasant?

OK, another serious post here. We do have alot of diversity in Canada, and so though the majority take their shoes off, and the majority would let you take your shoes off, and some would offer you clean slippers to wear, there are also some who would ask you to keep your shoes on. As Diarygirl said, you might have to get to know the person to be sure. Even among Canadians, we need to do that. It's a big diverse country with different cultrual mixes from region to region. I'd probably feel like a foreigner in some towns in Nunavut, for example.
 

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I certainly don't mean to offend anyone at all in Canada if that is the way things are...

See, I couldn't imagine eating my dinner smelling peoples feet, that would gross me out..

Maybe I'll just eat out (lol) ... Where do I buy Poutine, ha! ooh, and pumpkin pie? So want to try those two dishes :)

You're going to vancouver to try poutine? Good luck, wrong part of the country by about a 5 hour flight.

As for offence, I didn't feel offended by your question in the least. That's how we learn. And as for your smelly sock statement, why do you think I offer slippers? You never know how long those socks have been fermenting on someone's feet.:p
 

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If my shoes are soiled in any way, they come off, if not, they don't always come off, but depends on type of floors, sometimes shoes have to stay on if floors are
very cold, or ceramic tile, I don't like walking on it, hard as concrete, especially if
it rough and textured, uncomfortable for feet.
I don't have stilletos, usually soft soled shoes.
Any woman who would enter someone's home in stilletos, (or any high heel),and not remove them,
should be tossed out the door.
 

kiwi_NZ

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Doesn’t happen, Kiwi. Canada has central heating everywhere (it is the law) and Canadians keep their homes at a comfortable temperature. I understand central heating is not a standard in New Zealand and it is not uncommon for people to wear sweaters, coats etc. indoors. But it doesn’t happen in Canada.

So there is little chance that you will be cold in a Canadian home. And if you are, I don’t think the hostess would feel offended, she will simply turn up the central heating for your benefit. But it is extremely unlikely that you will feel cold.

That would be how I would treat a guest in my home too and certainly makes sense. My daughter not coming from freezing temps keeps her coat on as the Canadian temps that are comfy indoors are still cold for her, I guess it may take a year or two to acclimatise, she has been told by her partners Mum that is rude to wear her coat inside as much as the shoes thing. I just want to make sure I'm not out of line on my visit that's all.

When I move there and have my own home you can all visit with your shoes on, your coats on and I won't need to turn up the heat *winks*

I think learning and accepting new ways and cultures is very exciting and no doubt will be fun too and frustrating maybe, but heck who cares, it's all about loving where you're at :) Cool! I'm a happy camper