British MP banned from entering Canada

[earth_as_one]

PM feared Galloway's message

Tags: CURRENT EVENTS
Anyone who has ever seen George Galloway in action knows why he had to be stopped at the border. He definitely poses a threat – although not the security one alleged by the Harper government.
Rather, Galloway, a five-times elected member of the British Parliament, poses a threat to Stephen Harper's ability to sell Canadians on our involvement in the Afghan war and on Ottawa's support for Israel in its battle against the Palestinians.

TheStar.com | Opinion | PM feared Galloway's message

The article also mentions that a majority of Canadians view Israel negatively. Internationally Israel is officially the world's most loathed nation, below Iran, the US and North Korea

In the same poll Canada came out on top, ahead of Japan and the EU.
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Israel, Iran top 'negative list'

Regarding the campaign to suppress criticizm of Israel in Canada.

Jewish Canadians Concerned About Suppression of Criticism of Israel

March 10, 2009

More than 170 Jewish Canadians have signed a statement expressing their concerns about the campaign to suppress criticism of Israel that is being carried on within Canada. The signatories include many prominent Canadians, including Ursula Franklin O.C., Anton Kuerti O.C., Naomi Klein, Dr. Gabor Mate, and professors Meyer Brownstone (recipient of Pearson Peace Medal), Natalie Zemon Davis (former president of the American Historical Association), and Judy Rebick...

...Statement: Jewish Canadians Concerned about Suppression of Criticism of Israel

We are Jewish Canadians concerned about all expressions of racism, anti-Semitism, and social injustice. We believe that the Holocaust legacy "Never again" means never again for all peoples. It is a tragic turn of history that the State of Israel, with its ideals of democracy and its dream of being a safe haven for Jewish people, causes immeasurable suffering and injustice to the Palestinian people.

We are appalled by recent attempts of prominent Jewish organizations and leading Canadian politicians to silence protest against the State of Israel. We are alarmed by the escalation of fear tactics...

Jewish Canadians Concerned About Suppression of Criticism of Israel

 

[einmensch]

Actually "We" don't arm the Israelis. The Israeli weapons development industry is more than self sufficient, we also don't "Allow" Israel these excesses as they are a sovereign nation. We also don't "allow" North Korea or "allow" China or "allow" Russia to do things.

But quite frankly DB, I doubt you've ever even met an Israeli, so why let that stop your certainties of how they are.

Canada doesn't but: U.S. military equipment stockpile in Israel, which is available to Israeli forces in case of a military emergency. . Three quarters of the military aid to Israel goes for importing US-made military equipment such as F-16 and Apache attack helicopters. This creates a job market for US citizens and transforms Palestine into a test ground for US made weaponry, used daily against Palestinians. The U.S. supports Israel's dominance so it can serve as "a surrogate for American interests in this vital strategic region."

 

[Trex]

The story of Mr. Galloway continues on.

Upon his return to his home in the UK Mr.Galloway had a bit of a shock.
He has been notified by British authorities that his personel bank accounts and assets have been frozen, as have all fundraising "charity" related accounts linked to him.

He has been told to lawyer up and present himself before a leading judge and explain just why it appears he is fundraising for terrorist organizations.
He has also been notified charges may follow.

This guy is a traitor to his own country and its people.
His main scam appears to be a charity organization which claims to be raising funds for treating children with cancer in Iran.
The money allegedly is then funnled into munitions purchases for Hamas.

Mr Galloway has responded by ranting about his well known conspiracy theories mainly consisting of blaming all the worlds ill's on the Jews.

Its nice to see Canada starting to get back ahead of the curve and start to punch in its proper weight class.
We had Gorgeous George pegged as a terrorist fundraiser weeks ago and now the Europeans are seeing the light.
The Americans and Euro's are recognizing that our national banking and financing systems are among the most responsible.
And now our immigration minister is saying he would like to exclude terrorists and criminals from Canadian citizenship.
What next?

Trex

 

[Cannuck]

Its nice to see Canada starting to get back ahead of the curve and start to punch in its proper weight class.
We had Gorgeous George pegged as a terrorist fundraiser weeks ago and now the Europeans are seeing the light.

...and it's interesting to see people criticize Canada for taking a leading role. How many times on this thread have we heard that "nobody else" had a problem with Galloway, as if that was reason enough to ignore this waste of skin.

 

[MHz]

Leading role???? How is bowing to Israeli pressure taking a leading role, the ban came after Israeli insistence it take place did it not? Now when she (Canada) remains silent over the illegal invasion of Iraq, taking part in an, most likely, illegal invasion of Afghanistan (no charges, no convictions just the say-so of known liars, the US)
Supporting a State that has more violations listed at the UN than anybody, yep way to go Canada. Seems she only likes to support her 'preferred terrorists'.

 

[MHz]

EaO said



Unfortunately, EaO, your posts have shown that statement to be absolutely ludicrous.....you do support Hamas....you mouth its platitudes, support its aims, and uphold its honesty.....

I am proudly pro-Israeli.......and I know it.

I find it hard to believe you can't recognize your own partisanship.

Other than the numbers the genocide against Jews in WWII is not dissimilar to the genocide that has been taking place in Israel for 6 decades. It's quite apparent you do support genocide but only if the Jews are doing the killing.
Yeah that's really something to be proud of.

 

[Zzarchov]

Canada doesn't but: U.S. military equipment stockpile in Israel, which is available to Israeli forces in case of a military emergency. . Three quarters of the military aid to Israel goes for importing US-made military equipment such as F-16 and Apache attack helicopters. This creates a job market for US citizens and transforms Palestine into a test ground for US made weaponry, used daily against Palestinians. The U.S. supports Israel's dominance so it can serve as "a surrogate for American interests in this vital strategic region."

And you are aware the price of that is a non-compete for Israel weapons firms? Thats above all else a business deal. Thats about Jobs and Money. And America is more than happy to give weapons to anyone not interested in screaming wars of Genocidal conquest in the region. Like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait

 

[MHz]

And you are aware the price of that is a non-compete for Israel weapons firms? Thats above all else a business deal. Thats about Jobs and Money. And America is more than happy to give weapons to anyone not interested in screaming wars of Genocidal conquest in the region. Like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait

You seem to have only listed their partners, lately that is the only thing they have to export. The only wars going on are the one conducted by America and Israel, both certainly look like genocidal conquests from the POV of the people that are doing most of the dying. Your opinion from you lazy-boy actually means squat.

 

[Zzarchov]

You seem to have only listed their partners, lately that is the only thing they have to export. The only wars going on are the one conducted by America and Israel, both certainly look like genocidal conquests from the POV of the people that are doing most of the dying. Your opinion from you lazy-boy actually means squat.

Your lazy boy opinion however, pure gold :roll:


And yes, one tends only to trade and do business (especially with defense contracts) with your allies.

Thats a shock to you?

Seriously? Few people knowingly sell people the rope to hang them with.

And while you with your lazyboy opinion may think someone is dying off in some genocidal war, the facts prove you wrong. Population is growing, not dying off.

 

[MHz]

Your lazy boy opinion however, pure gold :roll:
And yes, one tends only to trade and do business (especially with defense contracts) with your allies.
Thats a shock to you?
Seriously? Few people knowingly sell people the rope to hang them with.
And while you with your lazyboy opinion may think someone is dying off in some genocidal war, the facts prove you wrong. Population is growing, not dying off.

Isn't that where you are when you get your news, safely in your warm home.
If the US freely sells or give military hardware to some in the area they how can they (or Israel) complain when the countries not on that list are out shopping for the same thing but from different suppliers. It is only Israel and the US that whine when Iran is seeking S-400 air defense systems. Defensive is a key word in that BTW. Seriously all the phosphorus bombs America gives Israel are given with the full knowledge that they will be used against civilian targets, what do you expect from the country that firebombed Dresden, a city full of refugees that had no military value.
The population is less than it should be, the peoples lives are controlled by Israel more than it should be, Israel is taking land away every day. Genocide is targeting a specific group, in the 6 decades it is Israel targeting Palestinians.

When do these guys in the video below get banned from Canada while the ones who illegally use Canadian passports in assignation attempts get a free ride?
YouTube - If Americans Knew What Israel Is Doing! VIDEO WAS CENSORED!

 

[gopher]

''Zionism is the bane of humanity. ''


It certainly is. And its proponents have all been socialists:



Socialist Zionism

''Labor Zionism - The Labor Zionist movement believed in founding the Jewish national home on Jewish labor and includes Socialist Zionists as well as adherents of Aaron David (A.D.) Gordon. It includes or included the Israel Labor Party (formerly MAPAI, the former MAPAM party and the former Achdut Ha'avoda. Achdut Ha'avoda was the original united labor party formed by David Ben-Gurion in 1920.''



How ironic that so many far right radical azzholes defend it.

 

[Zzarchov]

Zionism is a long dead word for "Jewish Colonialism" , because we feel the need to differentiate it from "European Colonialism", "Japanese Colonialism" or "Arab Colonialism" (the last of which is still going on).

I don't support Colonialism, but that doesn't mean I think the nations that sprang from them should be destroyed for the actions of their ancestors.

Zionism is long since dead and over with.

 

[einmensch]

Israel continues to colonize so how can Zionism be dead?

 

[Just the Facts]

Israel continues to colonize so how can Zionism be dead?

:?: Where is Israel colonizing?

 

[CDNBear]

:?: Where is Israel colonizing?

Do you real want to hear the irrational answer to that question?

You know nothing based on reality will come of this right?

;-)

 

[earth_as_one]

:?: Where is Israel colonizing?

Are you being ridiculous?

This map by the Israeli Human Rights group B'Tselem clearly shows that the Jewish only colonies and roadways have sliced the West Bank up into a series of walled in Palestinian ghettos:
http://www.btselem.org/Download/Settlements_Map_Eng.PDF

Settlement of occupied territory is a war crime.
War crime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jewish only colonies in the West Bank are illegal under international law. Nearly 500,000 Israeli citizens live illegally in occupied Palestinian territory:
Israeli settlement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This war crime is ongoing and expanding.
B'Tselem - 27 Feb. '09: Settlement expansion plans

Ethnic cleansing, illegal Israeli colonization and the resulting displacement of 4.5 million people is the root cause of violence in this region.

 

[Colpy]

Are you being ridiculous?

This map by the Israeli Human Rights group B'Tselem clearly shows that the Jewish only colonies and roadways have sliced the West Bank up into a series of walled in Palestinian ghettos:
http://www.btselem.org/Download/Settlements_Map_Eng.PDF

Settlement of occupied territory is a war crime.
War crime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jewish only colonies in the West Bank are illegal under international law. Nearly 500,000 Israeli citizens live illegally in occupied Palestinian territory:
Israeli settlement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This war crime is ongoing and expanding.
B'Tselem - 27 Feb. '09: Settlement expansion plans

Ethnic cleansing, illegal Israeli colonization and the resulting displacement of 4.5 million people is the root cause of violence in this region.

So, is littering in occupied territory a "war crime"????

EaO, you make the accusation so often it becomes not only boring, but tedious, and therefore completely ineffectual, if not counter-productive to your cause.

Do yourself, and all the rest of us, a favour: restrict the war crimes accusations to acts of violence........to intentional attacks on civilians........

BTW, I do wish you guys would make up your minds.......are the West Bank and Gaza "occupied territory"? If so, the Israelis have every right to put down dissent with a very heavy hand..........are the West Bank and Gaza part of greater
Greater Palestine, as in the "one state" solution????? If so, Jews have every right to live anywhere in that area.........or are the West Bank and Gaza a de facto independent state.........in which case Israel is perfectly correct in bombing the Hell out of them when they are attacked from their territory......or are the West Bank and Gaza simply defined in whatever manner strikes you as most detrimental to Israel at that moment, subject to change on a whim??????

I personally think it is the latter......

 

[MHz]

Do yourself, and all the rest of us, a favour: restrict the war crimes accusations to acts of violence........to intentional attacks on civilians........

Does anybody have an actual list. I've only seen the bits and pieces that are referenced to certain events. Attacks on power, water and sewage facilities are also war crimes are they not? Intention with-holding of food and medicine also comes in there I think.
For example a woman from Gaza need medical treatment for a life-threatening injury but she cannot get the proper operation in Gaza because of bomb damage that never got repaired. She is held up at a Israeli check-stop for some hours and she dies right there. I would call that a war-crime. It was a Government Military operated barricade to the right to free travel and to seek medical treatment. The ones running the blockade should be able to be charged, if they can pass the buck by giving up the one who gave them the instruction then that's alright as long as it doesn't end up as 1,000 die and only 1 is charged. Were similar acts in WWII deemed to be crimes (that does not mean they were prosecuted to any extent, they were remembered by having a law put into place that forbid such acts)?

As far as I know 'occupied' means every square inch as defined by lines established before the League of nations things was signed into being.

If Israel need to do all those things on her won the obviously they are not God's people. Is the concept of god protecting His people absolutely foreign to you and to the ones running Israel today.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you does not mean unloading a month's worth of bombs on a people from who means of defense has been withheld. Probably a war-crime in itself.

 

[CDNBear]

Does anybody have an actual list. I've only seen the bits and pieces that are referenced to certain events. Attacks on power, water and sewage facilities are also war crimes are they not?

No it isn't.

International Law pertaining to the targeting of civilian infrastructure uses the term "Disproportionate". AI, which is eao's source for this absurd claim, is incorrectly using that to redefine what constitutes a 'war crime'.

No GC signatory country in the world considers targeting civilian infrastructure as a war crime as defined in International law. Period.

Intention with-holding of food and medicine also come in their I think.

Though on the surface this may seem like a terrible thing and at face value, I would agree. Israel is guilty of not allowing their borders to be used. It in no way confiscated, nor forcibly halted or seized any aid. The convoyes moving said aid, were free to use other venues of movement. Funny how many countries surrounding the area were doing the same thing, for various reasons.

Foe example a woman from Gaza need medical treatment for a life-threatening injury but she cannot get the proper operation in Gaza because of bomb damage that never got repaired. She is held up at a Israeli check-stop for some hours and she dies right there. I would call that a war-crime.

It is that kind of rhetoric that casts doubt on your objectivity and rationality.

Are you aware that both American and Canadian civilians have died at border stops enroute to 'life saving' operations, while waiting to be cleared?

Are Canadian or American border Guards guilty of 'war crimes' too?

It was a Government Military operated barricade to the right to free travel and to seek medical treatment. If not why were similar acts in WWII deemed to be crimes (that does not mean they were prosecuted to any extent, they were remembered by having a law put into place that forbid such acts.

You would be incorrect in assuming so.

 

[L Gilbert]

Thought this was about a British MP not being allowed here.