Lots of homeless and poor people have concurrent mental health problems. Hiring them to pass a mop sounds like the final solutaion, just keep the number for the guys with the white van and straight jacket near by.
How best to help the poor?
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I have it on very good advice that the rich certainly did create the system, and they created it to serve them the rest of us on a platter. You cannot restructure anything without being focused on the problem. You can rename it you can study it you can consult with experts for decades you can lecture at length but you cannot restructure something with cosmetics especially a system that is definately serveing it's intended purpose if not the expressed. They won't let you. The rich always and still blame government bureaucracy for low efficiency as if the present crisis of private corporations greed and corruption has not revealed that to be the bull**** joke it always was.
Let the rich have more say where that charitable money goes and it'll go to the rich, where else? Of course this is only my opinion of the miserable parrasites.
There was a time when people down on their luck could go to the city/town and ask for work - they might have to cut grass - sweep the sidewalks or paint some fences. These tasks are all sewn up by public works departments now. Time was also when a person in need of work could knock on a few doors and find work gardening etc. from homeowners or a couple days at a factory - Sometimes women would open up their home to look after others children - now it is regulated in to a business not a service. We create public housing projects where if a person finds a good paying job they are kicked out because they make too much money but if you run a crack house or ***** house then it is accepted if not expected by those stalwart taxpayers that are just glad they don't live in the same neighbourhood.
We will never get to a point where we wish to help our neighbour until we get over the fear of our neighbours.
We will never get to a point where we wish to help our neighbour until we get over the fear of our neighbours.
First off I would have to say that you must accept that there will always be poor people. Some people choose that and there is no stopping their will, so accept it and move on to what you can help with.
Provide the basics needed to live and make that accessible to anyone who wants it.
Once stable, bring in education and training for specifics in the market place. Partner business with government initiative and provide supplemental training once a permanent position has been developed.
Workfare is the right direction if not the right vehicle.
Further, a return to technical instruction and streaming in middle and high school in a meaningful way to rebuild the service and manufacturing sector providing those areas with a larger pool of educated workers.
There will always be plenty of lawyers and doctors, but we should provide the wages to compensate doctors and nurses for opening practice outside highly populated centres to some degree to make that more attractive.
Not the whole answer but we mostly have that already in place and with a little better management, especially where working poor are concerned to transition from government aid to self support.
Other aspects such as mental health should be dealt with by medical interaction rather than Corrections Canada and the Emergency department.
Provide the basics needed to live and make that accessible to anyone who wants it.
Once stable, bring in education and training for specifics in the market place. Partner business with government initiative and provide supplemental training once a permanent position has been developed.
Workfare is the right direction if not the right vehicle.
Further, a return to technical instruction and streaming in middle and high school in a meaningful way to rebuild the service and manufacturing sector providing those areas with a larger pool of educated workers.
There will always be plenty of lawyers and doctors, but we should provide the wages to compensate doctors and nurses for opening practice outside highly populated centres to some degree to make that more attractive.
Not the whole answer but we mostly have that already in place and with a little better management, especially where working poor are concerned to transition from government aid to self support.
Other aspects such as mental health should be dealt with by medical interaction rather than Corrections Canada and the Emergency department.
I agree 99%, and there would be enough doctors too if all people took their health seriously and relied on themselves more. We have to simply get rid of that "drugstore mentality" in our society.
Take it one step further and work to eliminate the mentality that 'free' healthcare is not a right... Far too many people bitch about the lack-luster care they receive when they have no clue about the actual cost of that care. I think that if the individual were in required to pay for one tenth of the cost of the basic stuff and 1/100th of the major stuff, they'd shut-up quick enough and start making healthier choices.
The drunk men who sleep on sewer grates from Bay Street to Main Street Canada should be rounded up by the military and sent off to Afghanistan when this happens this will give the rest of the drunks motivation to sober up and get a job.
People that lose their jobs are covered by unemployment insurance to help them get retrained to find another jobs.
People that are on welfare who don’t have jobs should be shipped off to provinces that need workers.
A good example of this is that we are in a middle of a depression where tens of thousands of people are losing their jobs but in the province of Saskatchewan they need workers.
For the people that don’t want to leave their families then let the families support them.
For the mentaly ill put them back into the institutions.
There is always simple solutions, the only problem is that government do not want to act on it.
People that lose their jobs are covered by unemployment insurance to help them get retrained to find another jobs.
People that are on welfare who don’t have jobs should be shipped off to provinces that need workers.
A good example of this is that we are in a middle of a depression where tens of thousands of people are losing their jobs but in the province of Saskatchewan they need workers.
For the people that don’t want to leave their families then let the families support them.
For the mentaly ill put them back into the institutions.
There is always simple solutions, the only problem is that government do not want to act on it.
Health care so far is basically very cheap in CAnada, like $110 a month for a family. Health IMHO is about the most important asset you have (next to family and a good credit rating) and yet people are willing to spend 3 or 4 times the amount trying to destroy it than they are willing to pay to protect it. I think any family earning over $50 thousand should pay $150 a month and that would put the system back on it's feet, the other alternative being demand less service (don't run to the E.R. with a sniffy nose)
Do we really want to lose the war in Afghanistan? :lol::lol: Otherwise you are right on.
I try my best..............:lol::lol: Oooooooooooops guess that wasn't meant for me.
You gotta have patience with us old codgers, took me damn near 60 years to learn English and now it looks like I have to spend another 60 learning computerese. Not going to have time for many more languages. :lol::lol:
Do you even know who it is that is fighting on your behalf over in Afghanistan? Trust me, a homeless person with whatever problems they are suffering at the moment, wouldn't last ten minutes in Afghanistan. It takes nearly a year to train someone to go fight in the war over there, and those are healthy both physically and mentally, men and women working at the top of their game.
I find you attempt here at a solution is doomed to failure long before it starts.
Yeah once it kicks in. Then it's not all that long before it runs out. The majority manage to move from one job through the system and into their next job without too much trouble, but it's not really those people that need help.
Except that Charter thingy gets in the way. I think your solutions would have more traction if only we were the Nazis. But wait, we fought and died and eventually rebuked their ideals and final solution. So where does that leave you?
Yes workers not slaves. Migration will happen as needs and means dictate for the most part.
Sure those that can should, I'm all for that. Some people need various amounts of help and we should supply that help so that they can again return to making a livable wage as soon as possible.
What institutions? They were closed and the mentally ill sent home to their families so they can support them. Now that you're painted into the corner, what do you think you should do to get out?
It can be said that there are also stupid ideas that won't work no matter what. It's a good thing that the government doesn't implement every dumb idea that comes down the pike.
Yep, shipping the unemployed over to Afghanistan, would just be transporting the problem for someone else to contend with. A lot of these guys have their own demons to fight, without getting in other's way and probably end up being more of a threat than the enemy.