Brian Mulroney's Legacy what will it be ?

[#juan]

No matter what you want to call it. Every year Mulroney was in office he wrote a deficit of of forty to sixty billion dollars, When kim Campbell left, she handed Chretien a deficit of about forty two billion to go with the total deficit of five hundred odd billion that Mulroney left. The Canadian voters sent Mulroney a good massege. The Conservatives went from a large majority to two seats in the house. If the voters had known about the paper bags full of money, he wouldn't even have gotten those two seats. Mulroney's lagacy? He was the worst prime minister Canada ever had.

 

[petros]

My favorite quote on politics is that the word is formed from two parts

poli - meaning many

and

tics - meaning blood sucking parasites.

It apply fits.

A David Icke fan I see.

 

[petros]

If any of the BM supportesr ever read and then gain an understanding of the FTA they'd burn his house down with him in it.

 

[Risus]

He also got caught brown bagging $1000 bills and kept it secret from revenue Canada, until the German fire arms dealer started talking, Mulroney did not declare to Revenue Canada the bribe money because he did not know how to truly classify this income, for all intends and purposes he thought if you make it out of the country you don’t have to pay tax. Oh well sh!t happens. What is really stupid and pathetic here is Mulroney’s then finance minister Michel Wilson had enacted the law that anyone earning money out of the country and is a permanent resident of Canada would have to pay tax on any foreign income, he went as far as also including any money made in the form of bribe and enacted the law that even bribe money has to be declared. That is Mulroney’s legacy the BROWN BAG PM.

Your record is still stuck, eh, soc???

 

[TenPenny]

If any of the BM supportesr ever read and then gain an understanding of the FTA they'd burn his house down with him in it.

Not really.

It's a pretty good agreement.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Your record is still stuck, eh, soc???

Hey good day Risus, no record stuck, just on the topic, nothing to debate on my comment because all of it is true. BUT AS WE ALL KNOW THE TROUTH HIRTS.

 

[#juan]

quoting Colpy:
He will be remembered as the architect of Free Trade.

The real architect of free trade was Ronald Reagan. Mulroney simply went along with it the way it was written.

 

[JLM]

No matter what you want to call it. Every year Mulroney was in office he wrote a deficit of of forty to sixty billion dollars, When kim Campbell left, she handed Chretien a deficit of about forty two billion to go with the total deficit of five hundred odd billion that Mulroney left. The Canadian voters sent Mulroney a good massege. The Conservatives went from a large majority to two seats in the house. If the voters had known about the paper bags full of money, he wouldn't even have gotten those two seats. Mulroney's lagacy? He was the worst prime minister Canada ever had.

Well, neck and neck with Trudeau anyhow.

 

[petros]

Not really.

It's a pretty good agreement.

When did you read it? What was good about it?

What are you opinions on Schedule 22.01in the tariffs section? In which ways does it benefit Canada?

How about Annex 301.2? Good or bad for the Canadian auto industry?

How about Sect 401 Chapter 6? Have any banned proven cancer inducing chemical agents ever been forced back into consumption of Canadians by their own choosing? Is this good or bad for Canadians? Ever heard of MMT? Was forcing Canadians to add the killer MMT to gasoline and then having to pay the manufacture $20 Million in damages for banning the carcinogen good for Canada and your health? Yes or no?

How about Article 2011? Do you think it is good for Canada that US has veto power of social programs? If our Govt decides to up CPP payments the US can say no.


How about NAFTA Chapter 15 especially article1502.b? Good for you and Canada or bad?

NAFTA Chapter 11 is it good US companies can sue the Canadian govt for providing or subsidizing affordable services to Canadians?

Is it okay UPS sued Canada asking to dismantle it's courier services because it subsidizes the postal service the same way the US govt subsidizes the USPS Priority service?

By the way if you say you read the FTA you'd be lying. It was never published for public perusal.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Brian's Legacy?

3($00,000) dead trolls in a baggie(brown paper bag)

 

[Tonington]

By the way if you say you read the FTA you'd be lying. It was never published for public perusal.

Why would he be lying? You can read it right now if you like. It's on the Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada website as a .pdf, rather large.

 

[petros]

Now it is yeah. It was never fully published and released to the public until NAFTA was signed and RATified.

 

[gerryh]

Now it is yeah. It was never fully published and released to the public until NAFTA was signed and RATified.

You just finished saying that it was NEVER published so therefore he could never have read it....... how about admitting your mistake and apologise for calling him a lier?

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Mulroneys Legacy should reflect the state he left both his party and the country in. The real Conservatives all but ceased to exist federally after 1993 and the nation just about split apart as the Bloq, a separatist party, became the official opposition.

It's hard to say what the economy would have been like without NAFTA, what we do know is that many jobs have migrated out of Canada since its' introduction and the divide between the rich and middle class and poor has rapidly widened as in the US. There were many who predicted the end of Canada as a nation in the late 1980s and that forcast almost became fact with the sovereignty fight in the mid 1990s.

In all I'd say that Mulroney has a very poor legacy and his receiving hundreds of thousands in cash in brown paper bags from a man he claimed in court to only know slightly only adds to the impression of a selfish and arrogant leader.

Trudeau also had a great deal of arrogance, but he directed it towards strengthening a distinct Canadian indentity, not tearing one down as Mulroney seemed bent on.

Mulroney was a good PM for the US and a poor one for Canada

 

[TenPenny]

By the way if you say you read the FTA you'd be lying. It was never published for public perusal.

You do a relly good impression of a moron.

 

[gerryh]

Mulroney was a good PM for the US and a poor one for Canada

I still remember him standing there singing "when irish eyes" with ronny raygun and thinking...oh my god...he's sold us down the river.

 

[gerryh]

You do a relly good impression of a moron.

That's not an impression

 

[petros]

I'll be damned. I'm in the midst of ****ing oracles who read NAFTA before it was published.

 

[gerryh]

I'll be damned. I'm in the midst of ****ing oracles who read NAFTA before it was published.

I haven't seen anyone claim to have read the agreement before it was published. The only one making erroneous claims was you by stating that it had NEVER been published for public consumption, yet there are numerous sites on the web that have published the documant, either in part or in whole.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

I still remember him standing there singing "when irish eyes" with ronny raygun and thinking...oh my god...he's sold us down the river.

I bet it kind of stung a bit when Regan refered to him as "PM Muldoon" though. for all his effort, I don't think he was ever really appreciated(or respected) by the Regan/Bush Sr. administration.