Wouldn't you need 'character' for me to take shots at?
Your 'issue' here is with the Harper Gov't, on purely ideological grounds.
Take a close look at the time line...
Try spreading the blame around accordingly. Then I might take you seriously.
Mr. Abdelrazik abandoned by Harper Government
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Your 'issue' here is with the Harper Gov't, on purely ideological grounds.
Take a close look at the time line...
Try spreading the blame around accordingly. Then I might take you seriously.
Whatever.
The fact is, is that our governments so far have been failing Canadians. Mr. Abwhatsit, has been failed by Canada.
The fact is, is that our governments so far have been failing Canadians. Mr. Abwhatsit, has been failed by Canada.
And the fact is, that trying to focus on one man, (so honest and loving to this nation, that he didn't even drop his foriegn citizenship when he immigrated here), is ignorant, when thousands suffer daily within our borders.
Simple as that.
The crap stuffed into the many posts by this Member about the Harper Gov't, illuminates the real agenda here. Here's a hint, it ain't this dude...;-)
The possiblity exists, but more then likely, just one of those ideologically driven fools.Elevenevele is a politician? aaaahahhahahahaha Prolly a lawyer, too.
They're a dime a dozen and ring hollow when flicked. ;-)
As was stated earlier in the thread, please cease with the personal attacks. This is the final warning. Thank you.
It isn't illegal to to have dual citizenship in this country. If you care so much about that then you can try to petition to have the laws changed. That said you can't fault a person for having dual citizenship. Neither does it mean one is any less committed, or less patriotic to Canada, or any less a Canadian Citizen under our laws.
Me thinks some Conservative types need to read the works of Benjamin Disraeli and they will find what they thought was Conserative is purely Socialistic.
Says you...I disagree. I can easily get an American citizenship and go which ever way the wind blows. I don't, I'm loyal to one Nation and will only hold one citizenship. Those that choose to do otherwise, aren't worthy of our support or protection, simple as that. Perhaps he should seek a new life in the Sudan. It was important enough to lay claim to as a source of citizenship. Why not head there now?
I'm not a Conservative.
Nope...
I don't care if Bob and Doug wanna get married and adopt Timmy.
I don't care if Christianity ever gets back into the School system.
I don't believe that Creationism is a valid 'science'.
I don't support the Conservative Gov't lockstep.
I do not support Harper's handcuffing and gagging of his caucus.
I do not like Liberal and NDP spending habits.
I do not agree with giving away the farm to anyone, including my own Native community.
I believe fully in free speech, not just for one side of the ideological equation.
And so on...
No, I'm not a Conservative type, I'm not a Liberal type...I'm just a Canadian trying to survive in a word where hard work, perseverance, responsibility and accountability have gone the way of the Dodo.
I do hate hacks, that live by one ideological stance and all others are moot, null, void or otherwise easily dismissed. Solely on the grounds of ideological foundation.
BS, pure and simple.
I've have not hidden my belief that I don't feel Harper and his government are fit to run this country. However I've done so through providing material by which I base that so people can debate whether or not I'm making a substantive argument, and then challenge me on my statements or whatever material I provide.
I don't require having to belittle someone, or try to invent a persona around the person who debates me. I simply go on my arguments and the material I use to back them up.
I argued against Harper becoming leader initially because of his right-wing speeches that denigrated segments of the Canadian Electorate. I didn't like the right wing direction he gave indication he would move this country toward when he lead the Reform/Alliance Party. Is it any surprise now how he has polarized Canadians against on another? How he has pitted provinces against one another? Then when Harper supported the Iraq War, went on our media blasting us for not involving ourselves, that sealed it for me.
To be consistent I also heavily criticized Ignatieff's bid for Liberal Leadership as well for the reasons that he also supported the Iraq War. The incredible loss of life, injustice, chaos, misery, based on a decision by anyone in leadership is not to be taken lightly. On the march to war there was enough evidence that pointed to an invasion of Iraq not having enough justification. Much of the world was saying no, and Canada said no, and we can see now how thankful we should be for that.
I have yet to throw support Ignatieff's way. I do realize he wrote a lengthy retraction on such a position. Something which Harper hasn't done and come the next election I'll have to weigh everything before I decide where I'll throw my vote.
What I do know however is what I think of Stephen Harper, and I will continue to be very upfront about that and as to why. I've also criticized the other Political Parties wherever warranted.
I even tried to give Stephen Harper credit for defending the Arctic but he totally dropped the ball there too. What a complete dud this guy is.
Sorry but while there was a time when I argued against Stephen Harper because of what I thought he would do to this country once he got into power, I now find myself sadly arguing against what he has already done. This example with how he treats a Canadian Citizen just another on a long list that keeps growing.
Go ahead and try to make a valid point against my arguments. Resorting to character assassination is simply a waste of everyone's time and only degenerates the debate and the person making them.
I don't require having to belittle someone, or try to invent a persona around the person who debates me. I simply go on my arguments and the material I use to back them up.
I argued against Harper becoming leader initially because of his right-wing speeches that denigrated segments of the Canadian Electorate. I didn't like the right wing direction he gave indication he would move this country toward when he lead the Reform/Alliance Party. Is it any surprise now how he has polarized Canadians against on another? How he has pitted provinces against one another? Then when Harper supported the Iraq War, went on our media blasting us for not involving ourselves, that sealed it for me.
To be consistent I also heavily criticized Ignatieff's bid for Liberal Leadership as well for the reasons that he also supported the Iraq War. The incredible loss of life, injustice, chaos, misery, based on a decision by anyone in leadership is not to be taken lightly. On the march to war there was enough evidence that pointed to an invasion of Iraq not having enough justification. Much of the world was saying no, and Canada said no, and we can see now how thankful we should be for that.
I have yet to throw support Ignatieff's way. I do realize he wrote a lengthy retraction on such a position. Something which Harper hasn't done and come the next election I'll have to weigh everything before I decide where I'll throw my vote.
What I do know however is what I think of Stephen Harper, and I will continue to be very upfront about that and as to why. I've also criticized the other Political Parties wherever warranted.
I even tried to give Stephen Harper credit for defending the Arctic but he totally dropped the ball there too. What a complete dud this guy is.
Sorry but while there was a time when I argued against Stephen Harper because of what I thought he would do to this country once he got into power, I now find myself sadly arguing against what he has already done. This example with how he treats a Canadian Citizen just another on a long list that keeps growing.
Go ahead and try to make a valid point against my arguments. Resorting to character assassination is simply a waste of everyone's time and only degenerates the debate and the person making them.
Says our laws, CDNBear. What you do with your citizenship and how you wish to personally view your approach to your citizenship says nothing of someone else. Neither does it make you more Canadian. Your welcome to have that opinion however.
Yeah, this situation is pretty disgraceful.
As to the argument that it's only one man- what happens when it's YOU??
That is why it is not in any way a minor issue. If "citizenship" can be devalued to this level then what is it we're paying for, what IS citizenship if it's applied unevenly based on seemingly arbitrary factors??
As to the argument that it's only one man- what happens when it's YOU??
That is why it is not in any way a minor issue. If "citizenship" can be devalued to this level then what is it we're paying for, what IS citizenship if it's applied unevenly based on seemingly arbitrary factors??
From where I sit and from what I've read from you...that entire post is a load of crap.
Your ideology is what drives your opinion of Harper and not one thing could do, that would change your opinion of him, period.
From your own posts, you would exhaust the entire Canadian system, to save but one man that hasn't the respect or care to give himself solely to the Nation, of which he now demands support.
He can rot in a rat infested prison cell for all I care. You're free to join him.
Yes it does. It shows how devoted they are in becoming a part of the social fabric, of which they will undoubtedly use to shield themselves.
Yes it does. I choose to invest myself solely in my Nation. Unlike this jackass.
I know I am. You're welcome to yours as well. But I suggest you suck it up buttercup. When you lie down with dog's, you're bound to get fleas.
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Wouldn't, couldn't be me. I can say that safely too.
Citizenship of 'convenience' is what it is. It sometimes comes back to bite you in the ass.
Nuggler, don't figure anything. What's valid is the consistency behind one's statements and actions. Not personal claims. I think there is enough consistency to know who is who on here without needing political identification.
OT. Interestingly enough (re-spending habits), Manitoba with an NDP Premier is the one province to run a surplus with their budget. I'll save discussion on Harper's spending habits on a more appropriate forum. Hint: It doesn't begin with a Liberal surplus and it ends in deficits.
OT. Interestingly enough (re-spending habits), Manitoba with an NDP Premier is the one province to run a surplus with their budget. I'll save discussion on Harper's spending habits on a more appropriate forum. Hint: It doesn't begin with a Liberal surplus and it ends in deficits.