Inequaltity of wealth in Canada and everywhere

darkbeaver

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This thread is just too dammn funny.

LOL !!!

Thanks for being you, everyone !!!

But one person stands taller than all the rest: DARKBEAVER.

The Medal of Comedy goes to this man.

Please take a bow.

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Thankyou thankyou no please sit down thankyou (deafining applause) thankyou thankyou (thundering deafining applause) god bless (shower of undies) thankyou (several ladies in front row swoon) I'd like to thank my producer Jimmy and my partner Todd and the Loard for this medal, wait,that's friggin aluminum (police escort to limo).
 

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Thankyou thankyou no please sit down thankyou (deafining applause) thankyou thankyou (thundering deafining applause) god bless (shower of undies) thankyou (several ladies in front row swoon) I'd like to thank my producer Jimmy and my partner Todd and the Loard for this medal, wait,that's friggin aluminum (police escort to limo).



Hey, d.b.,
You should be so lucky!:lol::lol::lol:
 

jimmoyer

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So where are we with the concept of inequality ?

Equality of opportunity ?

Or flat out equal proportions of wealth ?

Or what makes the optimum distribution of wealth ?

What level of inequality is right ? How poor should the poor be in relation to the rich ?

Who gets to decide this ?

Is a central authority necessary to decide ?

Or is a decentralized authority such as the forces of market capitalism to decide ?
 

jimmoyer

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Time to resurrect an old thread.

The distribution of wealth. See the stats at the beginning of this thread.

Why does a capitalist system do no better than a socialist system or even an autocratic dictatorship in spreading the wealth around?

In each system named above the top 10 percent pay close to 50 percent of government costs or of society's infrastructure.

All this arguing which system is better and the result seems to always be the same whether it be a republic vs a parliamentary system, or capitalism vs socialism, or democracy vs dictatorship.
 

Tyr

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Time to resurrect an old thread.

The distribution of wealth. See the stats at the beginning of this thread.

Why does a capitalist system do no better than a socialist system or even an autocratic dictatorship in spreading the wealth around?

In each system named above the top 10 percent pay close to 50 percent of government costs or of society's infrastructure.

All this arguing which system is better and the result seems to always be the same whether it be a republic vs a parliamentary system, or capitalism vs socialism, or democracy vs dictatorship.

In each system named above the top 10 percent pay close to 50 percent of government costs or of society's infrastructure.

....that I find hard to believe

In any gov't "system", the weakest link is human nature. People spend inordinate amounts of time and energy trying to "beat" the system they just elected
 

jimmoyer

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You find it hard to believe, so do the research. See the stats at the beginning of the thread.

I was surprised too especially how you hear all the defenders of socialism or of capitalism; it matters little.

The distribution of wealth within that society shows the same lopsided bell curves statistically.

The statistic is double edged, because both sides use this statistic to their advantage. To the conservatives it proves the rich really do pay the lion share of taxes and to the liberals it proves the wealth is truly amazingly lopsided and unfairly concentrated.

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Trex

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Thank-you Juan, now perhaps the yapping whineing rich will stuff thier pie holes. I doubt it though other information indicates that many of them are psycopathic monsters who will continue to steal thier wealth out of the common allotment by all manner of deciet as they have for many generations.They represent the segment of humanity that must be pruned back substantially for the continuation and good of the many. Our species can no longer afford the useless wealthy, they have to go.

Hi DB,

The above seems a tad harsh to me.

Some people start a small business, work their tush off and then slowly become successful.
A few become quite well off, rich even.

There are, out there, some wealthy people who are not overly smart.
They are not manipulative or scheming either.

Some are just lucky people who started the right business at the right time in the right place.

Best of luck to them I say.

I say we go after the bankers and brokers.
The something for nothing types.

Trex
 

Tyr

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You find it hard to believe, so do the research. See the stats at the beginning of the thread.

I was surprised too especially how you hear all the defenders of socialism or of capitalism; it matters little.

The distribution of wealth within that society shows the same lopsided bell curves statistically.

The statistic is double edged, because both sides use this statistic to their advantage. To the conservatives it proves the rich really do pay the lion share of taxes and to the liberals it proves the wealth is truly amazingly lopsided and unfairly concentrated.

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10% of taxpayers with the highest incomes This group included taxpayers earning:
over $48,700 in 1990
over $64,500 in 2002


This is a population distribution stat, not a percentage of taxes paid per income group
 

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10% of taxpayers with the highest incomes This group included taxpayers earning:
over $48,700 in 1990
over $64,500 in 2002

This is a population distribution stat, not a percentage of taxes paid per income group

It tells me that 10% of the taxpayers are carrying over 50% of the load.
 

ironsides

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Wonder, did Canadians get a chance to vote on a income tax, I know the U.S. did not,
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The authority of the federal government to collect its income tax depends upon the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the federal income tax amendment, which was allegedly ratified in 1913. After a year of extensive research, Bill Benson discovered that The 16th Amendment was not ratified by the required 3/4 of the states, but nevertheless Secretary of State Philander Knox fraudulently announced ratification.[/FONT]
Text of the 16th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
 

taxslave

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You should never believe anything that comes out of CCPA. It is the propaganda arm of the NDP. What they don't like to say is where the disproportionate spending by government goes. By the time all the credits and freebees are taken into account the lowest income earners pay little if any tax and collect far more in benefits and government services.
 

captain morgan

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The distribution of wealth within that society shows the same lopsided bell curves statistically.

The statistic is double edged, because both sides use this statistic to their advantage. To the conservatives it proves the rich really do pay the lion share of taxes and to the liberals it proves the wealth is truly amazingly lopsided and unfairly concentrated.

.

You'll need to recognize that the 'wealth' must be created at some point. In terms of the money going to the different demographics, that represents the excess money in the system.

Eliminate the motivation to create excess and you'll soon see that the system will cave-in upon itself.
 

lone wolf

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You should never believe anything that comes out of CCPA. It is the propaganda arm of the NDP. What they don't like to say is where the disproportionate spending by government goes. By the time all the credits and freebees are taken into account the lowest income earners pay little if any tax and collect far more in benefits and government services.

Far more you say?

Man, are you ever out of touch with reality....
 

taxslave

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Jimmoyer: Heddy Fry also claims that there are crosses being burned in lawns in PR. George as she was speaking. Unfortunately (fortunately?) she was in a different time zone and the FX guys in PR George didn't get the fires lit.
You do have a point though. The problem is that while some may be making far more than they deserve they are working for it and making the wheels of commerce go round and pay lots of taxes while many of the poor contribute little or nothing to the economy but use taxpayer funded resources far out of proportion to the amount of taxes they pay. Basicly it is the middle class that gets screwed royally, When you add up all taxes and fees by all levels of government most of us pay around 50% of our income in taxes.