And the Chinese do not spy on us? My aren't we the hypocrit.
Freedom is freedom as you define it I suppose.
Freedom of the Seas baby. I bet we got the info we needed too.
Chinese ships play dangerous game with US researchers
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And the Chinese do not spy on us? My aren't we the hypocrit.
Freedom is freedom as you define it I suppose.
Freedom of the Seas baby. I bet we got the info we needed too.
Your off topic. The discussion is the USA spying on China - try and focus.
Well now, you suppose right, very good and here I thought you were an idiot.
You bet and that was that China isn't your bitch :lol:
Very much on topic but you don't like what I had to say.
Sending a bunch of trawlers to throw trash. Oooookay.
I bet we found all those neat little hiding spots for those diesel subs they have. Maybe one day there will be a nice little present waiting for them if they decide to get silly.
Geez, I wonder if they parked a Russian surveillance ship outside of Quantico it'd attract any attention:roll:
The US are lucky the Chinese didn't sink it ala Pueblo
Are you talking about hose nice Chinese diesel electric subs that popped up in the middle of a US battlegroup making the entire US navy useless?
This is just too damn funny.
The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced
By MATTHEW HICKLEY
Last updated at 00:13 10 November 2007
When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.
At least a dozen warships (including Canadian frigates) provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.
That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.
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American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.
By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.
According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.
The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.
One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.
The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.
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The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.
And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.
According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.
It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence.
Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard".
The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels.
Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors.
Commodore Stephen Saunders, editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and a former Royal Navy anti-submarine specialist, said the U.S. had paid relatively little attention to this form of warfare since the end of the Cold War.
He said: "It was certainly a wake-up call for the Americans.
"It would tie in with what we see the Chinese trying to do, which appears to be to deter the Americans from interfering or operating in their backyard, particularly in relation to Taiwan."
In January China carried a successful missile test, shooting down a satellite in orbit for the first time.
ha ha ha ha ha
Funny how the Americans take offense about this, yet they never complained about the USS Liberty.
I remember back in the day reading something that said most of the AEGIS systems the chinesse use were stolen from the states, i dont have a link... It was a long time ago i read it
not a clue dude, i just read that chinese americans were paid off by the chinesse government, thats all i can remember... It was from a times magainze
I didn't mind it but it wasn't relevant to the topic. You were trying to change the subject. I'm sure you know that though.
If that's all it takes then why not?
It's called being fiscally responsible and following the principles of mini max, something your country might consider learning about.
How did "US Researchers" (the OP's words in the title) get on a US Navy spy ship?
The mission of Impeccable is to directly support the Navy by using SURTASS passive and active low frequency sonar arrays to detect and track undersea threats.
...and what did they do to threaten it?
The Impeccable was shadowed by five Chinese ships, including a Bureau of Maritime Fisheries Patrol Vessel, a State Oceanographic Administration patrol vessel, a Chinese Navy intelligence collection ship, and two small Chinese-flagged trawlers.
Considering where it was (inside China's inclusion zone for miilitary vessels) and what it was doing (spying), it was very lucky it wasn't sunk or boarded
I guess the US has forgotten the Pueblo incident.
USS Pueblo (AGER-2) is a Banner-class "technical research ship" (Navy intelligence) which was boarded and captured by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea, or short DPRK) on 23 January 1968
The mission of Impeccable is to directly support the Navy by using SURTASS passive and active low frequency sonar arrays to detect and track undersea threats.
...and what did they do to threaten it?
The Impeccable was shadowed by five Chinese ships, including a Bureau of Maritime Fisheries Patrol Vessel, a State Oceanographic Administration patrol vessel, a Chinese Navy intelligence collection ship, and two small Chinese-flagged trawlers.
Considering where it was (inside China's inclusion zone for miilitary vessels) and what it was doing (spying), it was very lucky it wasn't sunk or boarded
I guess the US has forgotten the Pueblo incident.
USS Pueblo (AGER-2) is a Banner-class "technical research ship" (Navy intelligence) which was boarded and captured by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea, or short DPRK) on 23 January 1968
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