Should Iran be invited to join a UN-led co-alition to Afghanistan?
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Good. When I can vote for who sits at the UN table I'lll consider it's validity in promoting democracy.
No, it is not! The UN is a place where even the smallest nation can be heard. The joke is that the Americans pushed to have the UN, found they couldn't control it a had themselves a hissy fit. The League of Nations is another example where the Americans pushed for it to be organized, but didn't join themselves.
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Westerners just don't understand that Western "Democracy" is not considered Utopia by everyone.
Then what parts have to be modified so it does work to the advantage of all? Glass parking lot not really considered an option.
I'm tempted to go back over your posts to see if you have ever said anything about Gulf War 1&2 are perfectly legal because they were approved by some sort of vote in the UN or that Afghanistan has UN approval.
If Gaza asked the UN for the right to buy 20 nuclear carriers that are approaching the end of their service life they should be allowed to do so, if the money and materials were available. All they want to do is have them at anchor anyways so perfect running order is not an necessity, no contamination is a necessity as is free engine maintenance from the UN alone. The space on land gained by all that steel decking provides for many needs and services, as do the whole ships when fully operational. Scoot just to the south of Israel and that new heavy cargo seaport could be used a new transportation hub to the suddenly very rich but torn places. Ocean going vessles would be too large to use any shallow water because of the deep hydrofoils (wave stabalizers and not intended for surfing unless empty of cargo) Think anybody would complain about them having control of 20 mininuke power-plants, no build time they arrive already fully powered up. Zero votes, okay what is your suggestion.
Our agreement with America involves 'home and native land' by Canada's definition. If you need troops or whatever it involves the land within their borders. We would probably even pay for many planes and such if we actually get to fire them in defense of their 'home and native land' while actually in that same locale . Nobody should be allowed to join into a military pack. Have 5 separate services, have each of the 5 enforcer nations each produce only one of the 5 components of the war machine. That way one part could not strike out on it's own.
Surely if Canada is a portion of a proposed 'stabilization force' the people of Afghanistan should be up to date on who we are, like the means for everybody over there to be able to read (and reply thanks to text translators) declarations made by tax-payer supported individuals (like Harper's support for people they are not on good relationships with anyway). Would they choose lifelong servitude or pay for 3 months then it's free..... forever as when taking bids on communication networks. Streaming and blogs are on the rise while canned channels and large media are on the decline as far as public consumption so no s4ense selling them some used typewriters.
Mind you they might not understand why people are laughing at the answers some Americans make on utube type places that asks them relatively simple questions.
Iran would make a better refuge for people while their country is being rebuilt (poisons have to go first and that could be a 40 year project all by itself). With those two power stations they could support many more without lowering their own demand. Their access to the oceans would certainly be also useful.
It is a complete joke. The joke is that the UN tries to make it a place where it can control the US and extort from the US. It is as corrupt as it can be and has no teeth.
What does the League of Nations have anything to do with it or is this just another thread for you to bash the US?
...and that is the root of the problem that we find ourselves.
Afghanistan is not our country or our problem, but we "think" WE have the solution to somebodies elses problem. We try to export our value and belief systems into an area whose values and beliefs are at total odds to what we consider "moral and right"
To put it in perspective.
If Iran thought Canada would be a much better place if it was "fundamentally islamic" and invaded us to try and enforce that idea, do you think there'd be much opposition.....:angry3:
The Mormosexuals can exist in B.C. for reason beyond reality so we really have no oomph when it comes to any other religion as well.
In the formation of our nation we weren't give freedom of religion but freedom from religion. No single religion forms the Constitution Act of 1867 or the Charter of 1982 and be damned if one figures it has the authority to set policy over another outside our borders. If a single religion were to figure or acts outside of the the 1867 or 1982 outlines then they are not operating as Canadians.
Control the U.S.? It'd be nice. Maybe we could have saved 3 or 4 millions of Vietnamese, Cambodians, Laotians. Seems to me about a million Iraqis died as well as a result of what?.... American .....foreign policy???
Read the history of the U,S. and the League of Nations...
Hold onto your shorts, get Colpy to explain to you who the Magna Carta is written for and who is left out. I'm quite sure it is just the aristrocrats and upper levels of corporations that are given those freedoms, the poor are given just that the right to be kept poor. I'll let him correct any mistakes I may have already made on this point.
Why don't you explain to us how that was the result of Canadians making demons of ideals? Wasn't SE Asia mostly the result of paranoia induced by some "domino effect" and imposed on nationalist struggles.
How many South American dictators were trained by the CIA's School of the Americas and then installed by the oh so democratic CIA electioncopters and F-15 ballots?
My thoughts are the that the leadership of Iran, Syria and the Sudan would like to wipe the entire population of the Great Satan (USA) and the Little Satan's ( Canada, Western Europe, Australia and New Zealand) off the face of the earth.
Why on earth people insist on sucking up to despotic regimes which would seriously like to exterminate our very way of life baffles me.
So no.
Trex
Why on earth people insist on sucking up to despotic regimes which would seriously like to exterminate our very way of life baffles me.
So no.
Trex
When is it going to occur to you that if we stop acting like Satan's children (USA is just another pissant minion like the rest) they will stop calling us that?
Fair point.
It was an utter disaster.
And the reality is Canada is pretty much holding the bag for that one.
The Romeo Dallaire story is a sad one.
For all his speeches, documentaries, books and mental breakdowns he was, ultimately, a total failure.
Canadians are sympathetic to RD.
The Europeans tell a far different story about him.
Canadians should see a few of the European produced documentaries regarding Rwanda and RD.
The Belgians had crack, battle hardened troops in country.
They pulled them out because they felt Romeo Dallaire was completely unfit to command.
Canada changed the way its military was structured under the Liberal government of Pierre Trudeau.
Leadership in the Canadian military became a function of politics and connections and not experience.
It is thus possible to become a general in the Canadian forces without ever having led soldiers.
Or seen battle.
Romeo Dallaire was a product of that system.
He had never seen battle and he had never before led soldiers.
He was a purely political soldier that never once led.
And then they sent him to Rwanda.
And then they ignored him.
Its a really sad story.
Trex