It just looks good for the lefties and appears to make the Cons and the RCMP look like they're hiding something.
You know? The old bait and switch routine. ;-)
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You know? The old bait and switch routine. ;-)
No charges for RCMP in airport Tasering: Report
Thank God the video exists. Without it I truly believe this death would
have been in the news for two days and then swept under the rug with
no real questions asked, no inquiry, nothing. Nothing to see here...
Look at the story that first came out when the RCMP had possession
of the amateur video and thought they could hold it as "evidence" for an
indefinent (leading to permanent) period, without the public ever seeing
it. The man that shot this video, after his Lawyer got it finally back into
his possession, did the absolute smartest thing possible by then
immediately posting it onto Youtube for the world to see.
Thank God the video exists. Without it I truly believe this death would
have been in the news for two days and then swept under the rug with
no real questions asked, no inquiry, nothing. Nothing to see here...
Look at the story that first came out when the RCMP had possession
of the amateur video and thought they could hold it as "evidence" for an
indefinent (leading to permanent) period, without the public ever seeing
it. The man that shot this video, after his Lawyer got it finally back into
his possession, did the absolute smartest thing possible by then
immediately posting it onto Youtube for the world to see.
There definitely is serious need for some soul searching with in the force with respect to letting the truth be what it is, not extorted or distorted for self serving reasons.
The victim deserves to have the truth talked, not hidden to cover someone’s mistakes with in the force and the airport.
I'm talking about their actual training. The Inquiry even made reference to this. They were off procedure from the moment they got there.
I'm not saying that everything they did was not procedure, but their primary actions were very much so. My point was that this deviation from procedure (combined with their hostility) resulted in Dziekanski's death.
If you meant from the presepective of airport personnel then fine, but they allowed it to get out of control because of their own incompetence. They were the cause of the situation. Although they were not responsible for Dziekanski's death--the officers were responsible for that.
As far as the RCMP officers are concerned however, a situation like this was in no way out of their control. They were in complete control of the situation from the fist moment to the last. That is one of the main criticisms of their actions: none of their actions were forced upon them by the situation. They had multiple options right up to the point where they took him down, that would have resulted in all parties coming out of it unharmed.
I never said you did. As for the training, see above.
There are factors in police training that should be addressed but the vast majority of problems arise from cops deviating from procedure. The mentality that tends to unofficially dominate in police and armed forces is that they form part of a club where their loyalty is to each other (to a certain degree) over the population and that they are somehow above the law.
The official training is fairly standard for the western world.
In this case, the individual officers are very much the problem.
That said, the RCMP in particular suffers from a serious morality deficit. It's most noticable at the patrol level (a lot of brutes there--though obvioulsy not exclusively) but the far less visible rotten core consists of an 'old guard' that make the four guys at YVR look like naughty pre-schoolers.
The RCMP could be made into an upstanding organization with a huge effort on the part of government, but I think it would ultimately be far simpler to just disband it and create new state security force, transferring over the RCMP personnel. This would allow for the problem officers (of which there are many more than most Canadians seem to be aware) to be filtered out in the process. Then take measures to ensure that no more psychos get in.
And yes, training could definitely be improved where threat assessment is concerned as well as adding limits on use of force. But this must be accompanied by measures forcing officers to stick strictly to procedure. That said, developing more effective methods of filtering out applicants prone to behaviour such as that displayed at YVR would really have to take priority.
That's just it, they wouldn't have cared enough to to take those steps.
Better training for airport personnel could have averted this tragedy...hmm, where have I heard that before?
He'd been calmed down by a citizen with no special training, who didn't speak polish. The RCMP should have training in talking people down. I'd have thought it would be part of their job, to talk people down rather then talking them up.
They would have recognized right away that he didn't speak english. We are so multiculteral here that my city that some of the street signs are in sanskrit and english. Richmond has signs in cantonese.
Worse, that you say there is translation phone service too. They really have no excuse for not helping him.
They do have training in talking people down Twila. Most cops don't carry tasers remember. They have to use their training properly though. These guys didn't. Even without language available, you can get a fair bit done with non-verbal communication. But, I see no reason why the airport staff couldn't have used translation services over the phone. They probably never would have had to call police if they hadn't been so stupid.
Anyway, so much for the policeman as your friend. They seem to tend to be confrontational rather than helpful these days, at least in a few cases including this one.
I don't see them as hiding anything. I see them simply as failing their duties to justice and they are obviously not hiding that.
This is the same sort of thing you could expect if a Canadian tourist is killed on foriegn soil. We can ask for an inquiry, and we have to take their word that the situation was investigated and taken care of to that countries standards. We can not ask them to send the local criminal to Canada to be put on trial for the crime.
Now, if a Canadian commited a crime in Poland and came home, they would have the right to ask for him to be sent back to Poland to stand trial and serve his sentence.
There are also the new sex tourist laws that say that you go home to stand trial for the crime. This is for countries that more or less allow the child sex trade.
Now, if a Canadian commited a crime in Poland and came home, they would have the right to ask for him to be sent back to Poland to stand trial and serve his sentence.
There are also the new sex tourist laws that say that you go home to stand trial for the crime. This is for countries that more or less allow the child sex trade.
Canada withholding information on Dziekanski case, Poland says
Canada withholding information on Dziekanski case, Poland says
March 2, 2009 at 4:46
VANCOUVER — The Mounties involved in the fatal airport confrontation with Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski don't have to fear criminal Polish prosecutors pursuing charges against them, says a spokeswoman for the country's embassy in Canada.
Although Polish prosecutors have launched an investigation into the case, the effort was sparked because of Mr. Dziekanski's Polish citizenry and is not aimed at making a case against the officers, Sylwia Domisiewicz, the embassy's press and protocol officer, said in an interview.
"I think it's important to realize we are not going to charge those officers. This is not the intention of the Polish side," Ms. Domisiewicz said.
Prosecutors in British Columbia have ruled out criminal charges against the four officers.
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Mr. Dziekanski died on Oct. 14, 2007, after his erratic behaviour at the international arrivals area of Vancouver International Airport prompted a call to police. The four Mounties who responded tasered and tackled him. Captured on a bystander's video that was seen around the world, the incident has fuelled debate on the police use of stun guns.
Ms. Domisiewicz said Poland wants to be "involved and informed" about the Braidwood inquiry into Mr. Dziekanski's death. Under the terms of the bilateral Treaty on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters, which dates from the mid-1990s, that is supposed to happen. However, there is some confusion about the state of the agreement.
Ms. Domisiewicz said Canada has suspended co-operation under the treaty, denying Poland access to material from the inquiry. Ms. Domisiewicz suggested B.C's Ministry of the Attorney General has not been co-operating in providing information of interest to Poland, but a ministry spokesman said he was not aware of those concerns.
Carole Saindon, senior media relations adviser with the federal Justice Department, said in an e-mail that "Canada has not rescinded, or suspended the treaty." Poland has a lawyer with standing at the Braidwood inquiry, and its consul-general in Vancouver has been attending the hearings.
Last week, a lawyer for one of the Mounties filed a motion preventing the release of transcripts and other evidence from the inquiry without a court order. No decision has been made on the motion.
The inquiry enters a crucial phase today with the first testimony from the officer who tasered Mr. Dziekanski five times over a period of 30 seconds.
Constable Kwesi Millington, the third Mountie to appear at the inquiry since testimony from the officers involved began last week, was the only member of the group armed with a taser. There have been suggestions that Mr. Dziekanski was on the ground during all but the first of the five times he was tasered.
The cause of Mr. Dziekanski's death was listed as "sudden death following restraint."
Constable Millington's lawyer says his client is ready to explain himself.
"[Mr. Dziekanski's death] was a tragic outcome. Nobody intended it. My client regrets it," Ravi Hira said in an interview.
"The media storm and public interest in the matter is not something my client sought or wanted to be part of in any way. This is a very, very difficult process for my client and all the other officers.
"Having said that, he recognizes there is a public duty to account and he will."
Mr. Hira said his client has "worked hard" to review material relevant to the case in order to prepare for questions from lawyers at the hearing, which include the commission counsel as well as lawyers representing Poland, Mr. Dziekanski's mother, and Taser International Inc., which produced the device.
Constable Millington "is going to do the best he can," Mr. Hira said, "but it's difficult and one really asks how many human beings are truly prepared to be in front of an inquiry seating 24 or 25 lawyers, depending how you count, and prepared to be cross-examined by 12 while being broadcast live and scrutinized with every word being parsed."
Walter Kosteckyj, lawyer for Mr. Dziekanski's mother, Zofia Cisowski, said he is especially interested in asking why Constable Millington deployed the taser when he did, and why he did so five times, especially because Mr. Dziekanski went down after the first blast.
Lawyer Don Rosenbloom, representing Poland, also has many questions.
"This tragic event is made up of a number of components that all contributed to Mr. Dziekanski's death - the tasering is obviously material and critical," he said.
There are also questions about the medical care Mr. Dziekanski received after he was tasered, Mr. Rosenbloom said.
Canada withholding information on Dziekanski case, Poland says
March 2, 2009 at 4:46
VANCOUVER — The Mounties involved in the fatal airport confrontation with Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski don't have to fear criminal Polish prosecutors pursuing charges against them, says a spokeswoman for the country's embassy in Canada.
Although Polish prosecutors have launched an investigation into the case, the effort was sparked because of Mr. Dziekanski's Polish citizenry and is not aimed at making a case against the officers, Sylwia Domisiewicz, the embassy's press and protocol officer, said in an interview.
"I think it's important to realize we are not going to charge those officers. This is not the intention of the Polish side," Ms. Domisiewicz said.
Prosecutors in British Columbia have ruled out criminal charges against the four officers.
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Mr. Dziekanski died on Oct. 14, 2007, after his erratic behaviour at the international arrivals area of Vancouver International Airport prompted a call to police. The four Mounties who responded tasered and tackled him. Captured on a bystander's video that was seen around the world, the incident has fuelled debate on the police use of stun guns.
Ms. Domisiewicz said Poland wants to be "involved and informed" about the Braidwood inquiry into Mr. Dziekanski's death. Under the terms of the bilateral Treaty on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters, which dates from the mid-1990s, that is supposed to happen. However, there is some confusion about the state of the agreement.
Ms. Domisiewicz said Canada has suspended co-operation under the treaty, denying Poland access to material from the inquiry. Ms. Domisiewicz suggested B.C's Ministry of the Attorney General has not been co-operating in providing information of interest to Poland, but a ministry spokesman said he was not aware of those concerns.
Carole Saindon, senior media relations adviser with the federal Justice Department, said in an e-mail that "Canada has not rescinded, or suspended the treaty." Poland has a lawyer with standing at the Braidwood inquiry, and its consul-general in Vancouver has been attending the hearings.
Last week, a lawyer for one of the Mounties filed a motion preventing the release of transcripts and other evidence from the inquiry without a court order. No decision has been made on the motion.
The inquiry enters a crucial phase today with the first testimony from the officer who tasered Mr. Dziekanski five times over a period of 30 seconds.
Constable Kwesi Millington, the third Mountie to appear at the inquiry since testimony from the officers involved began last week, was the only member of the group armed with a taser. There have been suggestions that Mr. Dziekanski was on the ground during all but the first of the five times he was tasered.
The cause of Mr. Dziekanski's death was listed as "sudden death following restraint."
Constable Millington's lawyer says his client is ready to explain himself.
"[Mr. Dziekanski's death] was a tragic outcome. Nobody intended it. My client regrets it," Ravi Hira said in an interview.
"The media storm and public interest in the matter is not something my client sought or wanted to be part of in any way. This is a very, very difficult process for my client and all the other officers.
"Having said that, he recognizes there is a public duty to account and he will."
Mr. Hira said his client has "worked hard" to review material relevant to the case in order to prepare for questions from lawyers at the hearing, which include the commission counsel as well as lawyers representing Poland, Mr. Dziekanski's mother, and Taser International Inc., which produced the device.
Constable Millington "is going to do the best he can," Mr. Hira said, "but it's difficult and one really asks how many human beings are truly prepared to be in front of an inquiry seating 24 or 25 lawyers, depending how you count, and prepared to be cross-examined by 12 while being broadcast live and scrutinized with every word being parsed."
Walter Kosteckyj, lawyer for Mr. Dziekanski's mother, Zofia Cisowski, said he is especially interested in asking why Constable Millington deployed the taser when he did, and why he did so five times, especially because Mr. Dziekanski went down after the first blast.
Lawyer Don Rosenbloom, representing Poland, also has many questions.
"This tragic event is made up of a number of components that all contributed to Mr. Dziekanski's death - the tasering is obviously material and critical," he said.
There are also questions about the medical care Mr. Dziekanski received after he was tasered, Mr. Rosenbloom said.
china: You continue to start numerous threads on this one case. Exactly what is it you hope to accomplish? This matter is still before the courts and it has already been established that the officers will not be charged and it has already been established that the rcmp will use their tasers less. Time to let it go. Enough already.canada withholding information on dziekanski case, poland says
march 2, 2009 at 4:46
vancouver — the mounties involved in the fatal airport confrontation with polish immigrant robert dziekanski don't have to fear criminal polish prosecutors pursuing charges against them, says a spokeswoman for the country's embassy in canada.
Although polish prosecutors have launched an investigation into the case, the effort was sparked because of mr. Dziekanski's polish citizenry and is not aimed at making a case against the officers, sylwia domisiewicz, the embassy's press and protocol officer, said in an interview.
"i think it's important to realize we are not going to charge those officers. This is not the intention of the polish side," ms. Domisiewicz said.
Prosecutors in british columbia have ruled out criminal charges against the four officers.
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from the archives
- rcmp spoiling for fight with dziekanski, probe hears
- training taught officer any object can be a weapon, probe hears
- mounties regarded stapler as a weapon
- officers didn't discuss game plan, mountie says
mr. Dziekanski died on oct. 14, 2007, after his erratic behaviour at the international arrivals area of vancouver international airport prompted a call to police. The four mounties who responded tasered and tackled him. Captured on a bystander's video that was seen around the world, the incident has fuelled debate on the police use of stun guns.
Ms. Domisiewicz said poland wants to be "involved and informed" about the braidwood inquiry into mr. Dziekanski's death. Under the terms of the bilateral treaty on mutual legal assistance in criminal matters, which dates from the mid-1990s, that is supposed to happen. However, there is some confusion about the state of the agreement.
Ms. Domisiewicz said canada has suspended co-operation under the treaty, denying poland access to material from the inquiry. Ms. Domisiewicz suggested b.c's ministry of the attorney general has not been co-operating in providing information of interest to poland, but a ministry spokesman said he was not aware of those concerns.
Carole saindon, senior media relations adviser with the federal justice department, said in an e-mail that "canada has not rescinded, or suspended the treaty." poland has a lawyer with standing at the braidwood inquiry, and its consul-general in vancouver has been attending the hearings.
Last week, a lawyer for one of the mounties filed a motion preventing the release of transcripts and other evidence from the inquiry without a court order. No decision has been made on the motion.
The inquiry enters a crucial phase today with the first testimony from the officer who tasered mr. Dziekanski five times over a period of 30 seconds.
Constable kwesi millington, the third mountie to appear at the inquiry since testimony from the officers involved began last week, was the only member of the group armed with a taser. There have been suggestions that mr. Dziekanski was on the ground during all but the first of the five times he was tasered.
The cause of mr. Dziekanski's death was listed as "sudden death following restraint."
constable millington's lawyer says his client is ready to explain himself.
"[mr. Dziekanski's death] was a tragic outcome. Nobody intended it. My client regrets it," ravi hira said in an interview.
"the media storm and public interest in the matter is not something my client sought or wanted to be part of in any way. This is a very, very difficult process for my client and all the other officers.
"having said that, he recognizes there is a public duty to account and he will."
mr. Hira said his client has "worked hard" to review material relevant to the case in order to prepare for questions from lawyers at the hearing, which include the commission counsel as well as lawyers representing poland, mr. Dziekanski's mother, and taser international inc., which produced the device.
Constable millington "is going to do the best he can," mr. Hira said, "but it's difficult and one really asks how many human beings are truly prepared to be in front of an inquiry seating 24 or 25 lawyers, depending how you count, and prepared to be cross-examined by 12 while being broadcast live and scrutinized with every word being parsed."
walter kosteckyj, lawyer for mr. Dziekanski's mother, zofia cisowski, said he is especially interested in asking why constable millington deployed the taser when he did, and why he did so five times, especially because mr. Dziekanski went down after the first blast.
Lawyer don rosenbloom, representing poland, also has many questions.
"this tragic event is made up of a number of components that all contributed to mr. Dziekanski's death - the tasering is obviously material and critical," he said.
There are also questions about the medical care mr. Dziekanski received after he was tasered, mr. Rosenbloom said.
I'm glad the taser is being restricted. It got to be a weapon of convenience and dilutes the point of all the training to nab somebody harmlessly. I would have liked to see the constables involved given some time off to think about their training and how to use a simple wrist lock again.
From Source: RCMP debriefing raises questions at Taser inquiry - AOL News Canada
On Thursday, inquiry commissioner Thomas Braidwood ordered the four RCMP
officers involved to provide details of what they said to each other at an RCMP
debriefing session following the incident at Vancouver International airport.
Surprise answer
It's standard practice for lawyers at the inquiry to ask witnesses whether they've
discussed what happened with anyone else involved; for most witnesses, the answer
has been, "No."
But Const. Bill Bentley surprised the inquiry on Thursday when he was asked the
same question by Don Rosenbloom, the lawyer for the government of Poland.
"We did have what's referred to as a 'critical incident debrief' where we all told our
version of the events that transpired that evening," he said.
Bentley said that, along with the four officers involved in Dziekanski's death, a
psychologist and staff representatives were present, but he could not remember
when it took place.
Rosenbloom then wanted to know whether the officers were comparing notes.
Bentley told Rosenbloom the meeting was mainly to discuss their feelings and
emotions.
"Did you learn anything new at that meeting you didn't already know about the
events of that night by listening to your fellow officers?" Rosenbloom asked.
"No," Bentley responded.
Standard practice
Walter Kostecky, the lawyer for Robert Dziekanski's mother and a former RCMP
officer himself, said these kinds of post-incident meetings aren't uncommon, but
this one was different.
"The question about this particular debrief is, why are all four of the police officers
telling their story to each other? And that raises a lot of questions about just how
much you can rely on the fact that their evidence is untainted," said Kostecky.
The revelation of the meeting was also surprise to the inquiry's lead counsel Art
Vertlieb, who said it had never come up during months of planning and
preparation.
The inquiry has asked the RCMP to immediately provide any records of how the
meeting was arranged, and what was said.
On Thursday, inquiry commissioner Thomas Braidwood ordered the four RCMP
officers involved to provide details of what they said to each other at an RCMP
debriefing session following the incident at Vancouver International airport.
Surprise answer
It's standard practice for lawyers at the inquiry to ask witnesses whether they've
discussed what happened with anyone else involved; for most witnesses, the answer
has been, "No."
But Const. Bill Bentley surprised the inquiry on Thursday when he was asked the
same question by Don Rosenbloom, the lawyer for the government of Poland.
"We did have what's referred to as a 'critical incident debrief' where we all told our
version of the events that transpired that evening," he said.
Bentley said that, along with the four officers involved in Dziekanski's death, a
psychologist and staff representatives were present, but he could not remember
when it took place.
Rosenbloom then wanted to know whether the officers were comparing notes.
Bentley told Rosenbloom the meeting was mainly to discuss their feelings and
emotions.
"Did you learn anything new at that meeting you didn't already know about the
events of that night by listening to your fellow officers?" Rosenbloom asked.
"No," Bentley responded.
Standard practice
Walter Kostecky, the lawyer for Robert Dziekanski's mother and a former RCMP
officer himself, said these kinds of post-incident meetings aren't uncommon, but
this one was different.
"The question about this particular debrief is, why are all four of the police officers
telling their story to each other? And that raises a lot of questions about just how
much you can rely on the fact that their evidence is untainted," said Kostecky.
The revelation of the meeting was also surprise to the inquiry's lead counsel Art
Vertlieb, who said it had never come up during months of planning and
preparation.
The inquiry has asked the RCMP to immediately provide any records of how the
meeting was arranged, and what was said.
True enough JLM, but you are letting them off too easily. If they tasered him once and he died. Sure I'd go with you conclusion.
The amount of violence they sowed upon him should make them criminally liable and for that. and they should be getting two yrs less a day for involuntary manslaughter.
IF not, at the very least lose their jobs. Canada doesn't need Cop thugs
You are not sorry for yelling with the capitals. If you were, you would have changed them before you hit "submit reply". When a death occurs and one or more members are involved, it never gets swept under the carpet. So many of you on here are Judge and Jury and never once do any of you place yourselves in the positon of the officers. I find it appalling that all of you want to see these officers punished for doing their jobs. I'm glad that none of you are officers because you would be the biggest bullies going.
No charges for RCMP in airport Tasering: Report
From Source: Dziekanski was approaching to attack, testifies RCMP officer
The officer who shocked Robert Dziekanski multiple times with a Taser testified he
first fired the stun gun as the Polish immigrant was approaching RCMP officers
holding a stapler in his hand.
RCMP Const. Kwesi Millington, 32, testified for the first time Monday morning in
Vancouver at the Braidwood inquiry, which is examining the death of Dziekanski at
Vancouver airport in October 2007.
But under questioning, Millington was unable to explain why the details in his
official report on the incident differed from a video recording of the incident
made by a bystander.
Notes and video hold different accounts
Millington's account of the number of times he used the stun gun contradicted
expert evidence based on data collected from the Taser itself that showed the
weapon had been used five times, not four, a discrepancy Millington was unable to
explain.
Millington was also asked by the inquiry's chief counsel Art Vertlieb about his police
notes and incident reports, which were written shortly after the incident.
In those notes, Millington wrote that a combative Dziekanski did not fall down until
he was stunned three times with the Taser and officers wrestled him to the
ground.
But when the video recording captured by bystander Paul Pritchard at the airport
was played at the inquiry, it showed Dziekanski fell to the ground on his own
shortly after the first Taser strike.
Millington admitted his notes and incident report were wrong. When asked to
explain the discrepancies, he said, "That's what my notes said. He fell on his own. I
did not realize that."
Millington is the third officer to testify at the inquiry, and although the Crown has
ruled criminal charges will not be laid against any of the officers involved in the
Taser incident, the inquiry commissioner could make findings of misconduct.
_______________________
Manslaughter and Misconduct are two very different things. I believe I
read earlier today that this officer is now working as a police officer in
Ontario. All four RCMP officers have already been absolved from all
criminal charges, so I guess that would include falsifying their notes....
This Officer Millington is claiming that he didn't realize that Dziekanski
fell down before he was taserred two more times??? Huh???
Does anyone wish to make a friendly wager (no cash) against my
believing that this Inquiry will not make any findings of misconduct?
I mean against these four RCMP officers specifically...
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From Source: Dziekanski was approaching to attack, testifies RCMP officer
The officer who shocked Robert Dziekanski multiple times with a Taser testified he
first fired the stun gun as the Polish immigrant was approaching RCMP officers
holding a stapler in his hand.
RCMP Const. Kwesi Millington, 32, testified for the first time Monday morning in
Vancouver at the Braidwood inquiry, which is examining the death of Dziekanski at
Vancouver airport in October 2007.
But under questioning, Millington was unable to explain why the details in his
official report on the incident differed from a video recording of the incident
made by a bystander.
Notes and video hold different accounts
Millington's account of the number of times he used the stun gun contradicted
expert evidence based on data collected from the Taser itself that showed the
weapon had been used five times, not four, a discrepancy Millington was unable to
explain.
Millington was also asked by the inquiry's chief counsel Art Vertlieb about his police
notes and incident reports, which were written shortly after the incident.
In those notes, Millington wrote that a combative Dziekanski did not fall down until
he was stunned three times with the Taser and officers wrestled him to the
ground.
But when the video recording captured by bystander Paul Pritchard at the airport
was played at the inquiry, it showed Dziekanski fell to the ground on his own
shortly after the first Taser strike.
Millington admitted his notes and incident report were wrong. When asked to
explain the discrepancies, he said, "That's what my notes said. He fell on his own. I
did not realize that."
Millington is the third officer to testify at the inquiry, and although the Crown has
ruled criminal charges will not be laid against any of the officers involved in the
Taser incident, the inquiry commissioner could make findings of misconduct.
_______________________
Manslaughter and Misconduct are two very different things. I believe I
read earlier today that this officer is now working as a police officer in
Ontario. All four RCMP officers have already been absolved from all
criminal charges, so I guess that would include falsifying their notes....
This Officer Millington is claiming that he didn't realize that Dziekanski
fell down before he was taserred two more times??? Huh???
Does anyone wish to make a friendly wager (no cash) against my
believing that this Inquiry will not make any findings of misconduct?
I mean against these four RCMP officers specifically...
______________________
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I find it appalling that all of you want to see these officers punished
that in itself says alot about the cops guilt and public perception. If every body believes they are guilty, the probability is that they are
Now it's a matter of what kind of slap on the wrist will they get for klilling somebody.
My guess - not nuch
My hope - Federal pen time
No charges for RCMP in airport Tasering: Report
The job of these four officers was law enforcement, and not executioners.
The job of those above these four officers was not to lie to the public about
this incident, until caught in their lies when the video went public. People are
mad and rightfully so. These four officers will not be found guilty of any
criminal charges. That was already established in order for them to testify in
this inquiry. I seriously doubt they'll be found guilty on any charges of
misconduct.
That doesn't make what happened right though. It doesn't make Dziekanski
any less dead. That doesn't mean that people shouldn't be extremely p*ssed
off at this outcome. If we want an example of Bullies, we can watch the video
of Dziekanski's death.
The job of these four officers was law enforcement, and not executioners.
The job of those above these four officers was not to lie to the public about
this incident, until caught in their lies when the video went public. People are
mad and rightfully so. These four officers will not be found guilty of any
criminal charges. That was already established in order for them to testify in
this inquiry. I seriously doubt they'll be found guilty on any charges of
misconduct.
That doesn't make what happened right though. It doesn't make Dziekanski
any less dead. That doesn't mean that people shouldn't be extremely p*ssed
off at this outcome. If we want an example of Bullies, we can watch the video
of Dziekanski's death.