Tories hit another fundraising record

Ron in Regina

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Tories hit another fundraising record


By Andrew Mayeda, Canwest News ServiceFebruary 2, 2009
Source: Tories hit another fundraising record

OTTAWA - The governing Conservatives raised a record $21.2 million in donations in 2008, while the opposition Liberals made modest progress in their efforts to rebuild their fundraising machine, newly released figures from Elections Canada show.

The Conservatives easily beat the other political parties with their annual fundraising total, which also surpassed the $17 million the party raised in 2007. The party’s previous record for annual donations was $18.7 million in 2006, according to figures compiled by punditsguide.ca - a website that tracks Canadian political statistics.

The Liberals raised $5.9 million in 2008, an improvement over the $4.5 million the party managed the year before. A surge in donations in the fourth quarter, when the party garnered $2.3 million, enabled the Liberals to beat the NDP, which was leading the Grits through the third quarter.

The New Democrats raised $5.5 million in 2008, a major increase over their haul of $4 million the previous year. Meanwhile, the Green party broke through the $1-million mark for the first time, raising $1.6 million in 2008.

The Bloc Quebecois raised $713,415 for the year.

Ryan Sparrow, a spokesman for the Conservative Party of Canada, said the results showed that the Tories are the “biggest, broadest and most national of all of the federal parties.”

Conservative sources say contributions received a major boost in November and December from donors opposed to the prospect of a Liberal-NDP coalition. The take from anti-coalition donations easily surpassed the roughly $750,000 the party raised in 2007 after allegations surfaced that a CBC Television reporter had fed questions to a Liberal MP during a committee hearing on the Mulroney-Schreiber affair.

The fact that 2008 was an election year likely also helped pad Conservative coffers, as well as those of the other parties.

However, the Conservatives could be hard pressed to raise the same amount this year. Conservative commentators such as University of Calgary political scientist Tom Flanagan, a former senior aide to Stephen Harper, have predicted that the massive deficits projected in the federal budget could alienate the party’s “small-c” conservative base.

Moreover, the recession is expected to make donors less willing to open their wallets for all parties.

The Liberals were the only major political party to see their donations grow in the fourth quarter, compared with the previous three months.

Rocco Rossi, the party’s national director, attributed some of the growth to the acclamation of new Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff, who replaced Stephane Dion in December.

“It’s just the beginning,” said Rossi. “I think what you’re seeing in the fourth quarter is renewed and growing energy, excitement about the new leader, and distaste for what Mr. Harper did in the November economic statement.”

The Liberals have had trouble raising funds since January 2007, when new election-financing rules banned corporate donations and limited individual contributions to $1,100 per year. The new rules have hurt the Liberals, who traditionally relied on big corporate donors, and boosted the Conservatives, who have a wide network of grassroots supporters.

Rossi said the Liberals hope to employ some of the online marketing techniques used by the campaign of Barack Obama, including the use of Facebook groups and Twitter feeds.

“There’s no question that we have to step up our game, vis-a-vis databases and the use of the Internet,” he said.

The yearly fundraising totals are based on fourth-quarter party returns unveiled by Elections Canada on Monday.
 

Spade

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I guess there is a direct proportion here. Ain't math grand?!
 

Tyr

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Tories hit another fundraising record


By Andrew Mayeda, Canwest News ServiceFebruary 2, 2009
Source: Tories hit another fundraising record

OTTAWA - The governing Conservatives raised a record $21.2 million in donations in 2008, while the opposition Liberals made modest progress in their efforts to rebuild their fundraising machine, newly released figures from Elections Canada show.

The Conservatives easily beat the other political parties with their annual fundraising total, which also surpassed the $17 million the party raised in 2007. The party’s previous record for annual donations was $18.7 million in 2006, according to figures compiled by punditsguide.ca - a website that tracks Canadian political statistics.

The Liberals raised $5.9 million in 2008, an improvement over the $4.5 million the party managed the year before. A surge in donations in the fourth quarter, when the party garnered $2.3 million, enabled the Liberals to beat the NDP, which was leading the Grits through the third quarter.

The New Democrats raised $5.5 million in 2008, a major increase over their haul of $4 million the previous year. Meanwhile, the Green party broke through the $1-million mark for the first time, raising $1.6 million in 2008.

The Bloc Quebecois raised $713,415 for the year.

Ryan Sparrow, a spokesman for the Conservative Party of Canada, said the results showed that the Tories are the “biggest, broadest and most national of all of the federal parties.”

Conservative sources say contributions received a major boost in November and December from donors opposed to the prospect of a Liberal-NDP coalition. The take from anti-coalition donations easily surpassed the roughly $750,000 the party raised in 2007 after allegations surfaced that a CBC Television reporter had fed questions to a Liberal MP during a committee hearing on the Mulroney-Schreiber affair.

The fact that 2008 was an election year likely also helped pad Conservative coffers, as well as those of the other parties.

However, the Conservatives could be hard pressed to raise the same amount this year. Conservative commentators such as University of Calgary political scientist Tom Flanagan, a former senior aide to Stephen Harper, have predicted that the massive deficits projected in the federal budget could alienate the party’s “small-c” conservative base.

Moreover, the recession is expected to make donors less willing to open their wallets for all parties.

The Liberals were the only major political party to see their donations grow in the fourth quarter, compared with the previous three months.

Rocco Rossi, the party’s national director, attributed some of the growth to the acclamation of new Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff, who replaced Stephane Dion in December.

“It’s just the beginning,” said Rossi. “I think what you’re seeing in the fourth quarter is renewed and growing energy, excitement about the new leader, and distaste for what Mr. Harper did in the November economic statement.”

The Liberals have had trouble raising funds since January 2007, when new election-financing rules banned corporate donations and limited individual contributions to $1,100 per year. The new rules have hurt the Liberals, who traditionally relied on big corporate donors, and boosted the Conservatives, who have a wide network of grassroots supporters.

Rossi said the Liberals hope to employ some of the online marketing techniques used by the campaign of Barack Obama, including the use of Facebook groups and Twitter feeds.

“There’s no question that we have to step up our game, vis-a-vis databases and the use of the Internet,” he said.

The yearly fundraising totals are based on fourth-quarter party returns unveiled by Elections Canada on Monday.


Soooo.... that's where all the corporate bonuses went!!!! I'd actually thought corporate Canada had a conscience for a minute..:roll:
 

Ron in Regina

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Rossi said the Liberals hope to employ some of the online marketing techniques used by the campaign of Barack Obama, including the use of Facebook groups and Twitter feeds.

“There’s no question that we have to step up our game, vis-a-vis databases and the use of the Internet,” he said.

The yearly fundraising totals are based on fourth-quarter party returns unveiled by Elections Canada on Monday.


Assuming all Parties utilize not only their current fund raising methods,
but also incorporate these new methods....it'll still always come back
to the "who'll put their money where their mouth (& beliefs) is?"

The Conservative Party managed to Fund Raise 60% more than the
other four Parties mentioned....combined. 8O
 

Colpy

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Soooo.... that's where all the corporate bonuses went!!!! I'd actually thought corporate Canada had a conscience for a minute..:roll:

Man, talk about not letting the facts get in the way...

Corporate donations are illegal.

individual donations are limited to $1,100 per year per party.....

The Conservative get all that cash because their supporters are engaged in the democratic process much more than supporters of other parties. That is obvious as the CPC makes 3 times as much as the Liberals, all through small individual donations.

Now if we could just pull the greedy, undeserving lips of the Greens, The NDP, the Liberals, and most of all the BQ off the freaking public teat, get their damn hands out of my pockets, as it were, I'd be happy (er) :)/

I am pissed Harper backed off on that one.

Don't like the CPC richer than the others?

I suggest you STFU and reach into your pocket to make a donation to the party of your choice.....

Elections Canada On-Line | Election Financing

<H3>As of January 1, 2007, new rules for political contributions under the Canada Elections Act come into force:
  • You can make a political donation to registered political entities only if you are a citizen or permanent resident of Canada.
  • You can give no more than $1,100* in each calendar year to each registered political party.
  • You can give no more than $1,100* in total in any calendar year to the various entities of each registered political party (registered associations, nomination contestants and candidates).
  • You can give no more than $1,100* to each independent candidate for a particular election.
  • You can give no more than $1,100* in total to the leadership contestants in a particular leadership contest.
  • You can no longer make a cash contribution of more than $20 to registered political entities.
  • You cannot make a political contribution with money, property or services that were given to you for that purpose.
  • Corporations, trade unions, associations and groups can no longer make political contributions. However, your employer can give you a paid leave of absence during an election period to allow you to be a nomination contestant or a candidate without that leave being considered a contribution.
  • If you are running as a nomination contestant or a candidate, you can make an additional contribution up to $1,000 in total per election from your own funds to your own campaign. You can divide this amount between your nomination and candidate campaigns as you wish.
</H3>
 

Tyr

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Man, talk about not letting the facts get in the way...

Corporate donations are illegal.

individual donations are limited to $1,100 per year per party.....

The Conservative get all that cash because their supporters are engaged in the democratic process much more than supporters of other parties. That is obvious as the CPC makes 3 times as much as the Liberals, all through small individual donations.

Now if we could just pull the greedy, undeserving lips of the Greens, The NDP, the Liberals, and most of all the BQ off the freaking public teat, get their damn hands out of my pockets, as it were, I'd be happy (er) :)/

I am pissed Harper backed off on that one.

Don't like the CPC richer than the others?

I suggest you STFU and reach into your pocket to make a donation to the party of your choice.....

Elections Canada On-Line | Election Financing


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Hehehehe Man, talk about not letting the facts get in the way...

Corporate donations are illegal.

and immoral. Do you REALLY believe that it doesn't happen.... If so, then congrats Colpy Santa Claus never disappointed you

bribes are illegal too. That doesn't mean Mulroney didn't accept one or two or twelve
 

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If anyone has allegations of criminal wrongdoing, perhaps they should contact their local police department instead of making statements on this forum.
 
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Colpy

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Hehehehe Man, talk about not letting the facts get in the way...

Corporate donations are illegal.

and immoral. Do you REALLY believe that it doesn't happen.... If so, then congrats Colpy Santa Claus never disappointed you

bribes are illegal too. That doesn't mean Mulroney didn't accept one or two or twelve

Okay....let me put it to you this way......

if you have some knowledge of illegal activity, please notify the RCMP

And, a reality check:

When corporate donations WERE legal, the lion's share went to....the Liberal Party of Canada, not the Conservatives or Reform.......

So who is in Bay Street's pocket?????

Furthermore, when it comes to the Liberals and corruption, I believe that the greatest and most profound achievement of Jean (the Don) Chretien was he actually (to the amazement of myself) made Mulroney look like a relatively honest man.

I didn't believe it could be done, but Jean pulled it off........
 

Tyr

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Okay....let me put it to you this way......

if you have some knowledge of illegal activity, please notify the RCMP

And, a reality check:

When corporate donations WERE legal, the lion's share went to....the Liberal Party of Canada, not the Conservatives or Reform.......

So who is in Bay Street's pocket?????

Furthermore, when it comes to the Liberals and corruption, I believe that the greatest and most profound achievement of Jean (the Don) Chretien was he actually (to the amazement of myself) made Mulroney look like a relatively honest man.

I didn't believe it could be done, but Jean pulled it off........

Nobody was slimy enough to take a million in a paper bag while sitting as PM except the Conservative PM - Mulroney

get it yet...
 

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The Liberals and the other parties should invest that new money wisely. The Conservatives more than anything have the best functioning system for extracting the maximum contributions. They have a database that ranks all correspondence any individual has had with the Conservative Party of Canada, and ranks them based on how likely they are to donate more money. If you've donated in the past, you're very likely to donate again. So, they concentrate their resources for collecting donations on the most likely to donate, meaning they get the most bang for their buck.

It's a very smart system, and it's not exactly rocket science. It does however require investment. The NDP, Liberals, etc. ought to spend that new money wisely.
 

Colpy

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Nobody was slimy enough to take a million in a paper bag while sitting as PM except the Conservative PM - Mulroney

get it yet...

Oh, I see.....using the RCMP as your strong arm boys on the President of the BDC when he won't go along with your corrupt little plan to lend money to your arsonist buddy so you can get a kickback.........in my mind that beats out a few hundred thousand in envelopes by a LONG shot.....

And we haven't even started in on the Sponsorship Scandal.....how many millions did Chretien's Liberals steal from US????? 100, perhaps.........Certainly 20 plus.

And BTW, Mulroney is scum, I abandoned the Conservatives for Reform early on because of Lyin' Brian.

No friend of mine.....but, if one has to chose between pond scum, Brian was a step up the ladder from Jean.

Harper is head and shoulders above either of them.
 

lone wolf

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The Conservative get all that cash because their supporters are engaged in the democratic process much more than supporters of other parties. That is obvious as the CPC makes 3 times as much as the Liberals, all through small individual donations.

Talk about arrogance! Involved in the political process doesn't mean shelling out cash. Have you ever stopped to think (hahaha as if) traditionally, Libs and NDP represent working people whose pockets aren't quite so deep? A thousand bucks is chump change to the wealthy. It's a month's rent to someone else....
 

Risus

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Talk about arrogance! Involved in the political process doesn't mean shelling out cash. Have you ever stopped to think (hahaha as if) traditionally, Libs and NDP represent working people whose pockets aren't quite so deep? A thousand bucks is chump change to the wealthy. It's a month's rent to someone else....

You sound jealous....

The libs don't represent the working people. Who knows who they really represent... Anyway there are lots of ways of raising money. Don't blame the Conservatives because they got the system down pat....
 

Colpy

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Talk about arrogance! Involved in the political process doesn't mean shelling out cash. Have you ever stopped to think (hahaha as if) traditionally, Libs and NDP represent working people whose pockets aren't quite so deep? A thousand bucks is chump change to the wealthy. It's a month's rent to someone else....

The idea that the NDP are supported by the average poor working man is sooooo much BS....if it were true, they'd be getting a hell of a lot more than 18% of the vote.....the NDP voter, I would guess (and it is only a guess) is better off than average.....the NDP ceased being the party of western farmers and workers decades ago.....now they are the party of Urban latte drinkers and the so-called intellectual elite.

Oh, and CUPE, CUPW and CAW types.....all making well over the average wage....which is fine.

Same goes for the Libs, only more so. In this part of the country, drive through any upscale neighbourhood at election time.....all Liberal signs. Out in the country? Conservative.

I am a member and donate to the CPC. I have never made $35,000 in a single year in my life, my family income has never broken $80,000 a year....ever, and for most of our lives it has been half that.

That is who donates to the CPC.

So dig in, if you like the NDP, and write a cheque, join the Great Game as more than a bystander.
 

lone wolf

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You sound jealous....

The libs don't represent the working people. Who knows who they really represent... Anyway there are lots of ways of raising money. Don't blame the Conservatives because they got the system down pat....

Who's blaming anyone? Read the portion of Colpy's post I challenged. Jealous? No ... that's your game level.
 

lone wolf

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The idea that the NDP are supported by the average poor working man is sooooo much BS....if it were true, they'd be getting a hell of a lot more than 18% of the vote.....the NDP voter, I would guess (and it is only a guess) is better off than average.....the NDP ceased being the party of western farmers and workers decades ago.....now they are the party of Urban latte drinkers and the so-called intellectual elite.

Oh, and CUPE, CUPW and CAW types.....all making well over the average wage....which is fine.

Same goes for the Libs, only more so. In this part of the country, drive through any upscale neighbourhood at election time.....all Liberal signs. Out in the country? Conservative.

I am a member and donate to the CPC. I have never made $35,000 in a single year in my life, my family income has never broken $80,000 a year....ever, and for most of our lives it has been half that.

That is who donates to the CPC.

So dig in, if you like the NDP, and write a cheque, join the Great Game as more than a bystander.

Colpy, do you EVER respond without the smoke screen? The word was represent NOT "supported by the average working man". Do Tories represent the worker? Not likely. Harper's own campaign was devoted to investors ... and he lies.
 

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Interesting to see cons are still willing to throw money at a party that within a few years got us back in the red and tabled a liberal budget.:lol:
 

Ron in Regina

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Interesting to see cons are still willing to throw money at a party that within a few years got us back in the red and tabled a liberal budget.:lol:



.....and the Liberal Party is claiming even more $$$ should be thrown towards an
even larger deficit in the economic concept of a stimulus package...weird times....
I wouldn't have imagined this situation six months ago.:lol:
 

Avro

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.....and the Liberal Party is claiming even more $$$ should be thrown towards an
even larger deficit in the economic concept of a stimulus package...weird times....
I wouldn't have imagined this situation six months ago.:lol:

How one acts in opposition is always different than when they govern, the cons always talk a big game of fiscal prudence but usually F it up and go the opposite way and we find ourselves buried in more debt and recessions only to have the Libs fix it all.

Don't believe me? Open a newspaper sometime, it's all their in black and white.:lol:

I love how you justify it though...."well the libs would put us deeper in debt"....too funny.